The Better Running Back!! MB3 or Julius?

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BrAinPaiNt;1070158 said:
We will rue the day we let Jamar Martin go.
I rued it when it left us with The Repenter. I am happy again with Lousaka Polite.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1070242 said:
Tyson Thompson may have more ability than either of them.

This will never happen. You've been right on Bledsoe & Watkins. This will be your first strike. Thompson at best might be a decent backup someday.
 

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Emmit Smith...........opps, sorry, wrong trend.



TT has ability, but he ain't the sharpest pencil in the box, and he can't block, yet.

Barber is a good compliment, although with his style as a starter, i don't think he is big enough or fast enough to handle the job full-time.

JJ is a threat whenever he gets the ball, all he needs is a crease. He has starting back talent, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 

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I like to think of Julius and Marion as a 1-2-3 punch. W/ TT being the 4th punch.
Julius is the 1 punch. Softens up the defense.
Marion is the 2 punch. Mauls the defense when they are getting tired.
3 punch. Julius hits the homeruns after Marion has provided some much needed rest.
4 punch a very fast Tyson Thompson mops up a completely spent defense.

Marion is great for what we are having him do. I just don't think he is fast enough to make a defense have to defend him breaking it to the outside. You have to respect JJs speed. That respect forces the defense to play him differently. Marion would not look nearly as good if he was our primary runner. We need to look no further than that guy that dances on TVs old backup. Who does he play for now? I forget.
Lets just be happy w/ have the two of them healthy finally.
 

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This debate is getting a little old. JJ is the home run hitter and the back breaker. MBIII is the 3rd down, short yardage and run the clock out back . They both compliment each other well. Together you have Emmit Smith. JJ has more moves faster and MBIII is as tough as nails and stronger than JJ. You got to love the way JJ can make a defense pay if they over commit or make a mistake, and you got to love the way MBIII pounds the ball down in the red zone.

We don't have to concern ourselves with who's better unles it gets to the point we can't afford both of them. If I had to vote now I say JJ is a little more of a keeper.
 

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Crown Royal;1070294 said:
This will never happen. You've been right on Bledsoe & Watkins. This will be your first strike. Thompson at best might be a decent backup someday.

I just remarked that he had a tremendous amount of "ability". Obviously it takes more than sheer ability to succeed and that's why he's at #3 on the depth charts.
 

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Doomsday101;1070264 said:
No ****. I was just commenting on you Tyson Thompson view.

Dooms I'm betting if I had remarked that Tony Dorsett had more "ability" that I would have received the...

"In time you may be right but evidently based on what Parcells is seeing at practice the 2 top backs on this team remain Jones and Barber"
 

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I agree with CBZ. It is an excellent question .. and a very intriguing one as well. It's a hard question to answer if you don't have a biased viewpoint.

I admit that my bias leans towards Barber for several reasons. First, though, I'll give Jones credit where credit is due. JJ can break one at any time. He's got the long run potential. Often times, I get frustrated watching him blast straight into a callapsing hole though. It's like he has great vision on some plays and not so great vision on others.

He seems to produce well on draw plays (which is why I think Parcells is "starting" him), but on other plays he really isn't all that impressive. He can't catch out of the backfield either .. and overall, he's just inconsistent, IMO.

Marion Barber, in my opinion, hasn't had the chance to show what he can really do. I like the fact that he can, if need be, run into a callapsing hole and push some players backwards. He's deceptively quick; able to break tackles; able to gain yardage after initial contact and is a great back to put in with fresh legs against a tiring defense. He's quick; and punishing at the same time ... and if I had to pick choose one of the two backs to hang my hat on for the next 3-4 years, I'd pick Barber.

But like we were saying, it's an interesting question ...

I believe the correct answer is just be glad that we have both players and that both of them are relatively young.

With that being said, keep an eye out for Barber in the up and coming weeks.. He may be the next back to rush for 100 yards ...

..and having two quality backs that can get you 100 yards in the NFL is ...

Priceless.
 

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ive always said Barber is better than JJ... and I've seen nothing to change my mind yet.
 

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Well normally I'd rather just go with one guy.. never been fond of RB by committee even if they both might bring something to the table.

If either of these 2 guys were to be the one guy to totally carry a load, I'd pick Jones.

But theres no denying at all that when MB gets the ball he does something with it.

Course so did Hambrick when he spelled Emmitt. ;)
 

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Jones, at least to me, isn't looking like the same back he has been in the past. Hes finding the creases in the line as opposed to running into piles, maybe its just that this years line is actually making the creases.

Parcells I trust to evaluate backs. I think hes very good at it honestly. When you come out and say that MBIII is better than Jones your basically saying you know more than Parcells who sees them both every day.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1070428 said:
I just remarked that he had a tremendous amount of "ability". Obviously it takes more than sheer ability to succeed and that's why he's at #3 on the depth charts.


I think the only thing TT has is more speed. As far as ability JJ and MBII are MUCH better!
 

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MichaelWinicki;1070443 said:
Dooms I'm betting if I had remarked that Tony Dorsett had more "ability" that I would have received the...

"In time you may be right but evidently based on what Parcells is seeing at practice the 2 top backs on this team remain Jones and Barber"

What are you talking about? Dorsett was the top college running back in the nation. Thompson was an undrafted FA who is very raw. If TD was here and not playing I'd question the coach as to why a great back was not playing ahead of both Jones and Barber. I guess you could say you would lose that bet.
 

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I still believe that MB3 is the better overall back, but JJ is looking mighty fine as well so I guess we are fortunate to have both on our roster.

Something tells me though that MB3 will play a bigger role as the season goes on, he's dangerous and reminds me of a young marshall faulk....especially catching balls out of the backfield.
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Derinyar;1070472 said:
Jones, at least to me, isn't looking like the same back he has been in the past. Hes finding the creases in the line as opposed to running into piles, maybe its just that this years line is actually making the creases.

Parcells I trust to evaluate backs. I think hes very good at it honestly. When you come out and say that MBIII is better than Jones your basically saying you know more than Parcells who sees them both every day.

I agree. Jones seems to be doing a better job of not giving the defensive guy a square target to hit when going into the line of scrimmage. I also think he is doing a better job of bouncing the run to day light. As for Barber I think the guy is a good back and has an important role on this team, if he had 1 big fault last year it was holding on to the ball and that does not appear to be the case thus far this season.
 

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Doomsday101;1070485 said:
What are you talking about? Dorsett was the top college running back in the nation. Thompson was an undrafted FA who is very raw. If TD was here and not playing I'd question the coach as to why a great back was not playing ahead of both Jones and Barber. I guess you could say you would lose that bet.



Dooms the point I was making is that you tend to take me far too seriously at time. :)
 

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MichaelWinicki;1070521 said:
Dooms the point I was making is that you tend to take me far too seriously at time. :)

Gosh it is kind of hard to know if someone is being serious on a message board if your not indicating that you’re being sarcastic or joking how would anyone know?
 

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Doomsday101;1070550 said:
Gosh it is kind of hard to know if someone is being serious on a message board if your not indicating that you’re being sarcastic or joking how would anyone know?

Sometimes it's just better if you don't. ;)
 
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