The big picture is Dallas will be ok

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What have they shown on D against tough teams that makes you think they will be okay? What makes you think we can stop the run all of a sudden? There are glaring issues with this team on both sides of the ball, and things will be okay? How long will Ty be out, and Zach not be healthy?
 

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What have they shown on D against tough teams that makes you think they will be okay? What makes you think we can stop the run all of a sudden? There are glaring issues with this team on both sides of the ball, and things will be okay? How long will Ty be out, and Zach not be healthy?
Just spend some time studying up what whole team effective becomes when the offense sticks to scheme and produces without a boat load of drive killing penalties.
 

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How bout Siriani pushing his DC out the window . Good luck getting another DC gig . And to lose three straight when Drew Locke hits on bomb . However they play three extremely winnable games against Division 2 teams while Dallas well ….say hello to Tampa again in the WC . Mayfield should be due some picks by Mr Bland .

After that game well :huh:
 

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Ok means alright or average, so yeah they'll be ok but some of us want them to be great?
 

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No, I came up when the Southwest Conference still had Arkansas, Rice, SMU, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Ever play college football? I was at the Air Force Academy, who played Tennessee in the Sugar Bowl, without size exemptions other than the Air Force during Viet Nam...and then Texas A&I on a NAIA National Championship team as a linebacker.

If you don't want college comments...stay off my posts. I saw the transitions in both college and professional levels. I even understand implications of the grassy gnoll when Murchison was able to create the Cowboys in 1960.

I played with 7 A&I players who played in Pro Bowls after leaving Kingsville and playing in the NFL.

The joke was a Darrel Royal joke that was about Texas winning in the SWC. The Conference had 5 prominent and Nationally renowned coaches as well, then.

At the Academy, we beat Miami and Notre Dame as well as Colorado when they actually a National Powerhouse and not supporting Deion Sanders...
Did you play with Jim Hill at A&I?
 

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It's not in their nature. They're not conditioned to play that kind of football. They don't draft those kinds of players, and the Jones system doesn't make them that kind of player. It's why they've lost almost every key game for nearly 30 years.
The Eagle game was a key game.
 

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We are a train wreck waiting to happen. Fortunately, not a lot of physical teams in the NFC.
 

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McCarthy and Dak go into panic mode on the road.

I fully expect the same Sunday evening.
It’s a team problem and you’re leaving out the defense that’s been destroyed in three road games this season.
 

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When you think about the loses, who is to say the cowboys won't correct the mistakes and approach to certain teams before the playoffs?

I know some fans dont like the possibility of playing SF again, but that loss may be what was needed in order to get more intel, for a different approach, with a better chance to win.

DQ may slip up at times but i believe he has the potential to go into the playoff with a correction vs what happened in the regular season.

They could have also been keeping tabs on SF remaining games for more ideas of what they like to do vs other teams that we could see in the playoffs if that matchup happens.

Same could be done with philly and other possible teams we could face.

I also believe the offense will be more open in the playoffs. I felt in some of the games like Buffalo, the coaches didnt feel the need/importance to open the playbook in a game like that. I felt they where going to commit to getting by in that game showing less win or loss.

Had that been another NFC team then maybe a little more is shown.

I believe some things are going on that we do not understand. I am looking at things from an unconventional view. I believe the cowboys will go into the playoffs ready to compete.
We shall be OK.
But let us consider how relative that term is.
Now, were I back In ks2 Manchester, OK would be Maude Allen. Meh. See?
Cowboys are a financial cash cow ranking maybe top 3 in the universe.
Footballwise we reach the playoffs yearly. Yes, we do OK in the playoffs, sometimes.
OK is what we are.
But see here, me brutes and saints, we shant get to the top while the 49ers roam the NFL or until we get a QB who is chill and steady and keeps his nerve.
Blimey. It is not Dak.
 

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Did you play with Jim Hill at A&I?
Hill played football for Texas A&I from 1964 to 1967 before he was drafted by the San Diego Chargers in the 1968 NFL/AFL Draft as the 18th Overall Pick. He played in the NFL for the Chargers and the Packers He was a cornerback, damn good one, who went into the pro's . There were also four quality secondary that were in a four year window. He married a lady from Bishop but got a leg injury back when those medical remedies weren't in the recovery neighborhood of today.

Sid Blanks was the very first black player to play in the league brought in by Gil Steinke and the Javelinas in the Lone Star Conferrence. He was the very first draft choice by the Houston Oilers.

I graduated from High School in 1968. I then went to the Air Force Academy for a year and then to A&I.

Gene Upshaw, from Robstown, played on the Javelina teams in 1963-66. I remember him visiting H.M. King High in Kingsville and meeting him there. He then was drafted by the Raiders. When he kicked off for the Javelinas, the fans would stand up and yell, 'Field goal, Tuck!'

The professional players drafted into the NFL when I was given a scholarship there, were:

Eldridge Small, who joined the Texas A&I program after an outstanding high school career at Houston Wheatley, still holds the school record for most pass receptions in a game, season and career. He was inducted into the Javelina Hall of Fame in 1991. He also saw action as a defensive back for the Javelinas.
Small was an Associated Press Little All-America first team honoree in 1971 and was named to the NAIA All-America squad. He was selected to play in the Senior Bowl game after his senior season. He was All-Texas College, All-Lone Star Conference for three seasons and was named to the Houston Chronicle’s all-college team that included players from university and college division schools. With Small in the lineup, the Javelinas won three LSC championships (1968, 1969 and 1970) and were the NAIA national champions in 1969 and 1970. The team had a 39-7-0 record during Small’s four years on the roster. Small was a first-round draft choice of the New York Giants and played with the National Football League team for five seasons. (secondary)

Dwight Harrison was an All-America receiver in football and a five-time gold medal winner in the Lone Star Conference track and field meet. He was inducted into the Javelina Hall of Fame in 1985. Harrison was a wide receiver and defensive back for the Javelinas and set many of the school’s receiving records during his four-year career. He was an All-America first team honoree and made the All-Lone Star Conference roster for four years. He was on the Lone Star Conference team of the decade for the 1960s and also made the same squad at Texas A&I. He played on LSC championship teams in 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, and was on the national title teams of 1969 and 1970. The 1968 team was national runner-up. The Javelinas compiled a 41-4-0 record with Harrison in the lineup. After his career with the Javelinas, Harrison was drafted by Denver and played in Buffalo and Baltimore before retiring. (secondary)

Ernest Price was a defensive end that finished with A&I in 1973 and was drafted in the first round by Detroit. He was drafted by the Lions along with Levi Johnson. (defensive end)

Levi Johnson (born October 30, 1950) is a former American football cornerback who played five seasons for the Detroit Lions in the National Football League (NFL). He had 21 interceptions in less than five years as an NFL player, returning three for touchdowns.[1] Johnson led the Lions with five interceptions during the 1973 NFL season[2] and the 1974 NFL season, returning two for touchdowns in 1974, including one on Thanksgiving Day against the Denver Broncos.[3] (secondary)

David Hill, Hill served as a captain of the 1975 NAIA national championship team and played on national title squads in 1974 and 1975. He was All-Lone Star Conference for three years and played in four post-season all-star games. (tight end) He played with Detroit and the Rams.

He was the brother of Jim Hill.

https://javelinaathletics.com/staff-directory
 
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When you think about the loses, who is to say the cowboys won't correct the mistakes and approach to certain teams before the playoffs?

I know some fans dont like the possibility of playing SF again, but that loss may be what was needed in order to get more intel, for a different approach, with a better chance to win.

DQ may slip up at times but i believe he has the potential to go into the playoff with a correction vs what happened in the regular season.

They could have also been keeping tabs on SF remaining games for more ideas of what they like to do vs other teams that we could see in the playoffs if that matchup happens.

Same could be done with philly and other possible teams we could face.

I also believe the offense will be more open in the playoffs. I felt in some of the games like Buffalo, the coaches didnt feel the need/importance to open the playbook in a game like that. I felt they where going to commit to getting by in that game showing less win or loss.

Had that been another NFC team then maybe a little more is shown.

I believe some things are going on that we do not understand. I am looking at things from an unconventional view. I believe the cowboys will go into the playoffs ready to compete.
We don’t have the talent or desire to beat SF
 

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Hill played football for Texas A&I from 1964 to 1967 before he was drafted by the San Diego Chargers in the 1968 NFL/AFL Draft as the 18th Overall Pick. He played in the NFL for the Chargers and the Packers He was a cornerback, damn good one, who went into the pro's . There were also four quality secondary that were in a four year window. He married a lady from Bishop but got a leg injury back when those medical remedies weren't in the recovery neighborhood of today.

Sid Blanks was the very first black player to play in the league brought in by Gil Steinke and the Javelinas in the Lone Star Conferrence. He was the very first draft choice by the Houston Oilers.

I graduated from High School in 1968. I then went to the Air Force Academy for a year and then to A&I.

Gene Upshaw, from Robstown, played on the Javelina teams in 1963-66. I remember him visiting H.M. King High in Kingsville and meeting him there. He then was drafted by the Raiders. When he kicked off for the Javelinas, the fans would stand up and yell, 'Field goal, Tuck!'

The professional players drafted into the NFL when I was given a scholarship there, were:

Eldridge Small, who joined the Texas A&I program after an outstanding high school career at Houston Wheatley, still holds the school record for most pass receptions in a game, season and career. He was inducted into the Javelina Hall of Fame in 1991. He also saw action as a defensive back for the Javelinas.
Small was an Associated Press Little All-America first team honoree in 1971 and was named to the NAIA All-America squad. He was selected to play in the Senior Bowl game after his senior season. He was All-Texas College, All-Lone Star Conference for three seasons and was named to the Houston Chronicle’s all-college team that included players from university and college division schools. With Small in the lineup, the Javelinas won three LSC championships (1968, 1969 and 1970) and were the NAIA national champions in 1969 and 1970. The team had a 39-7-0 record during Small’s four years on the roster. Small was a first-round draft choice of the New York Giants and played with the National Football League team for five seasons. (secondary)

Dwight Harrison was an All-America receiver in football and a five-time gold medal winner in the Lone Star Conference track and field meet. He was inducted into the Javelina Hall of Fame in 1985. Harrison was a wide receiver and defensive back for the Javelinas and set many of the school’s receiving records during his four-year career. He was an All-America first team honoree and made the All-Lone Star Conference roster for four years. He was on the Lone Star Conference team of the decade for the 1960s and also made the same squad at Texas A&I. He played on LSC championship teams in 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, and was on the national title teams of 1969 and 1970. The 1968 team was national runner-up. The Javelinas compiled a 41-4-0 record with Harrison in the lineup. After his career with the Javelinas, Harrison was drafted by Denver and played in Buffalo and Baltimore before retiring. (secondary)

Ernest Price was a defensive end that finished with A&I in 1973 and was drafted in the first round by Detroit. He was drafted by the Lions along with Levi Johnson. (defensive end)

Levi Johnson (born October 30, 1950) is a former American football cornerback who played five seasons for the Detroit Lions in the National Football League (NFL). He had 21 interceptions in less than five years as an NFL player, returning three for touchdowns.[1] Johnson led the Lions with five interceptions during the 1973 NFL season[2] and the 1974 NFL season, returning two for touchdowns in 1974, including one on Thanksgiving Day against the Denver Broncos.[3] (secondary)

David Hill, Hill served as a captain of the 1975 NAIA national championship team and played on national title squads in 1974 and 1975. He was All-Lone Star Conference for three years and played in four post-season all-star games. (tight end) He played with Detroit and the Rams.

He was the brother of Jim Hill.

https://javelinaathletics.com/staff-directory
Darrell Green played at Texas A&I (1978–1982). Was drafted by Washington in 1983. (CB)

John Randle played at Texas A&I (1988–1989) He joined Minnesota undrafted in 1990. (DE)
 

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No, I came up when the Southwest Conference still had Arkansas, Rice, SMU, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Ever play college football? I was at the Air Force Academy, who played Tennessee in the Sugar Bowl, without size exemptions other than the Air Force during Viet Nam...and then Texas A&I on a NAIA National Championship team as a linebacker.

If you don't want college comments...stay off my posts. I saw the transitions in both college and professional levels. I even understand implications of the grassy gnoll when Murchison was able to create the Cowboys in 1960.

I played with 7 A&I players who played in Pro Bowls after leaving Kingsville and playing in the NFL.

The joke was a Darrel Royal joke that was about Texas winning in the SWC. The Conference had 5 prominent and Nationally renowned coaches as well, then.

At the Academy, we beat Miami and Notre Dame as well as Colorado when they actually a National Powerhouse and not supporting Deion Sanders...
no,

what i'm telling you whoever made the post comparing our team to the big 12 and cant stack up to the SEC ie stating the 9ers are the sec lol is off base and I'm telling you this is a bad year to do so Texas BEAT BAMA is in the college playoffs headed to the SEC AND HAS A TOP 10 NATIONAL D, STOPS THE RUN LIKE BEST IVE SEEN IN FOOTBALL..GOT IT?? its bad comp a bad analogy etc. etc

so the claim is the big 12 is built like our DL or defense etc well Texas says hold my beer. best DL in college or close to if. That beef inside is real and those Lbers are underrated you know where Overshown came from, correct...

DC FO might keep an eye on that tandem of DTs inside with Sweat etc.. Dudes a monster.

so bring it in but dont spout false claims, it didn't land. not just this year but TCU from the big 12 also made the college football final last year.. so the gap from the big 12 to the SEC closed up pretty good this year.. only issue now is the 2 best are headed there LOL.
 
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