The Brandon Carr Issue

[kskboys]

In the natural cycle of front office personnel no one should still be around to have ptsd from a free agent acquisition 12 years ago. Even in successful organizations the cycle would have different people in place and that's what's wrong in Dallas in a nutshell.

Yup. I betcha if someone asked Jerry he still does not know that Carr was a #2 type CB. He has no idea why Brandon wasn't all that.

 

[kskboys]

He was pretty solid for us. Had a big pick against the Steelers that I vividly remember. These dudes just know how to throw out excuses to allow them to be cheap in FA lol

He was, but we paid him like a #1 CB, and he never was.

 

[Einstein]

It wasn't. The problem was he regressed as a player and was massively overpaid.

Underperforming and overpaid is a very sour taste.

Disagree... don't think he was that great before we got him

 

[kskboys]

Disagree... don't think he was that great before we got him

Correct. He was the same guy, just w/o a #1 on the other side and w/o a pass rush.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

After the Williams WR and Carr moves think they have accepted the fact they suck at the job and resort to whatever pick falls to them.
Heck, the Bills snagged Kincaid right under their noses.
They are what they are an off-the-cuff F/O that is clueless about players in general.

 

[McKDaddy]

Problem was. He was suppose to be an elite shutdown corner and was paid as much. Not paid to be "solid".

like i said though, that was a failure in evaluation before they purchased the product.

 

[HungryLion]

and the crazy thing is Carr was NOT that bad of a signing. Overpaid, yes. But he should not be the one who spurred this drastic shift in how the team operates in FA.

Agree 100%! He was overpaid some. But the dude played every single game and was a solid corner. It’s not like it was a complete FA bust.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Money wasn’t even that bad compared to what guys get now lol

Carr was solid here and you’re right that contract was not bad compared to what guys get now. Carr was always available and my stance is your best ability is your availability.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Disagree... don't think he was that great before we got him

He was very good in Kansas City. He never played the same level again after he got to Dallas.

 

[tm1119]

It’s even more insane when you consider that Brandon Carr wasn’t even a bad signing. Would I call it a good signing? No, he was probably overpaid by a few mil a year based on production. But in any scenario where a free starts literally every single game of the contract at an above average level it’s shouldn’t be a “nightmare” scenario like everyone paints the Carr situation as. The 3 or so million Carr was overpaid a year was never even close to the reason those Cowboys team didn’t succeed.

I don’t even buy that this is why Jerry has sworn off free agency. I think it has a lot more to do with Jerry realizing that he doesn’t have to spend money to make money. I’ll never believe that Jerry’s #1 priority is winning.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Everybody had bad games against him.

And getting beat by Megatron in 2013 isn't that bad. He was almost unstoppable that year.... probably didn't help that Dez spouted off before the game saying that anything Megatron could do he could do better.

 

[RonWashington]

Didn’t OBJ catch the ball one handed over his shoulder on Carr or is my memory faulty . I thought Collinsworth was going to fall out of the booth panting and heaving .

 

[jrumann59]

"Frontline" FA very seldom live up to their contract. You pay them thinking you are getting them at their best when usually you are getting them as they start that slide.

 

[jrumann59]

Didn’t OBJ catch the ball one handed over his shoulder on Carr or is my memory faulty . I thought Collinsworth was going to fall out of the booth panting and heaving .

It was OBJ it was a freak-ish catch that 9 times out of 10 probably falls incomplete, Carr was there nothing he could have done

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Carr was solid here and you’re right that contract was not bad compared to what guys get now. Carr was always available and my stance is your best ability is your availability.

I agree. Yeah this team shouldn’t not be afraid of free agency because of him. Not at all.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

"Frontline" FA very seldom live up to their contract. You pay them thinking you are getting them at their best when usually you are getting them as they start that slide.

When you think about it none of them really work out. A big part is because these guys are past their prime when their contract is up.

 

[RonWashington]

It was OBJ it was a freak-ish catch that 9 times out of 10 probably falls incomplete, Carr was there nothing he could have done

Thanks for verifying . I thought Carr was very serviceable when he was here .

 

[jrumann59]

Thanks for verifying . I thought Carr was very serviceable when he was here .

He was fans were expecting Deion based on the contract he signed that is what happens when you sign those 1st wave FA.

 

[diamonddelts]

and the crazy thing is Carr was NOT that bad of a signing. Overpaid, yes. But he should not be the one who spurred this drastic shift in how the team operates in FA.

He was a broken car on blocks. He was that bad.

 

[StarChamber_33]

I'm still reeling from the Joey Galloway / Roy Williams franchise crushing deals Jerry did. I think that was before Spawn was around.

Oh yeah, both of those deals were all-time fails lol..

• Joey Galloway was given a 6yr deal for $42-million., acquired in a trade with Seattle for two first round picks.
• Roy Williams-{WR} signed a 6yr deal for $54-million., acquired in a trade with the Lions for a first, third and sixth round picks.

Unbelievably, Galloway tore his ACL in his FIRST GAME as a Cowboy; He was never the same player afterwards.; And then there was Roy Williams lol.. Ole Jerruh saw him as a true number one WR, but we quickly found out that Williams was barely a number three WR on a good day..