The case for Pollard

[aria]

If they had blocked anything close to how they blocked yesterday, he would definitely had better games against those opponents.

As would any RB which is my point. Zeke gets all the credit for his good games but the O line gets all the blame for his bad games. he his running behind the second best run blocking line in the league, most RB’s would have similar success in that situation.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Different era.

We're playing some great 90's football for 4 years now and we have nothing to show for it.

We need big plays.

I like Zeke and he is good but how is our team doing and how useful has he been in the playoffs?

Nick Chubb - has 11 runs of 20+ yds, including an 88 yd TD run. His team is 6-8
Derrick Henry - has 7 runs of 20+ yds, including at 74 yd TD run. His team is on the outside of the playoffs right nos
Christian McCaffery - Was a frontrunner for MVP for a good part of the season due to his big plays. Car is 5-9
Chris Carson - stats are identical to zeke (he has the same number of carries for 2 more yds than zeke. He has 8 carries of 20+ (along with 6 fumble). His team is the #1 seed in the NFC

These are the 4 players ahead of Zeke in the rushing race. They all have more explosive plays, yet only Carson's seattle team will make the playoffs. Tell me again how we need these big explosive plays to be a winner?

 

[CATCH17]

Nick Chubb - has 11 runs of 20+ yds, including an 88 yd TD run. His team is 6-8
Derrick Henry - has 7 runs of 20+ yds, including at 74 yd TD run. His team is on the outside of the playoffs right nos
Christian McCaffery - Was a frontrunner for MVP for a good part of the season due to his big plays. Car is 5-9
Chris Carson - stats are identical to zeke (he has the same number of carries for 2 more yds than zeke. He has 8 carries of 20+ (along with 6 fumble). His team is the #1 seed in the NFC

These are the 4 players ahead of Zeke in the rushing race. They all have more explosive plays, yet only Carson's seattle team will make the playoffs. Tell me again how we need these big explosive plays to be a winner?

We're 7-7...

Maybe RB's aren't that important and shouldn't be invested highly in...?

Who is Chris Carson? lol

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

There are plenty of yards this team left on the bone from Zeke by abandon the run game so early after having great first halves. He could probably be in 2nd place by now.

 

[CATCH17]

LOL...just hilarious.... "anyone that plays fantasy football knows this.."....

to bad NFL teams play real football and not fantasy football....

It all correlates.

Go have a look at the all time rushing attempts leaders.

Ignoring these numbers and not seeing a correlation is just ignorant.

You get a massive amount of carries and you get a massive amount of production at that position. Fantasy footballers know this. Maybe you should play..

 

[INCowboysFan]

We're 7-7...

Maybe RB's aren't that important and shouldn't be invested highly in...?

Who is Chris Carson? lol

yes, we are 7-7 but you can't pin that on Zeke. If you think giving Pollard Zeke's workload would have turned us into a team that is 9-5 or 10-4 right now, I don't know what to tell you.

Good day.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

To me, the kid is just better than Elliot. Don't get me wrong. I think Elliot is a good back (not work the big contract though). But I think Pollard gives the dynamic of the "break-away" run as evident in his TD run yesterday. If that was Elliot, he goes down or is caught from behind.

Speed, yes.

 

[aria]

I wish I could watch you say that to his face. but in all seriousness, we're lucky to have both. pollard has his strengths, but zeke is the man. when it's 4th and 1 on the goal line, I want zeke getting the ball.

True and I would absolutely say it to his face. I’m not some bad azz but I have a little size on Zeke and 100% guarantee my evil thoughts/mentality are much more than his which goes a long way in a throw down. Plus if he fights like he plays then he’ll be winded after a few minutes but unlike during a game I don’t stop when someone taps out

 

[CATCH17]

yes, we are 7-7 but you can't pin that on Zeke. If you think giving Pollard Zeke's workload would have turned us into a team that is 9-5 or 10-4 right now, I don't know what to tell you.

Good day.

I don't know what would happen other then Pollard producing at an elite level. I don't know if that would translate into Wins and Losses but I can pretty much guarantee he'd be one of the top producers at the RB position because we've seen this scenario play out time and time again with no name RB's getting production due to volume.

 

[aria]

He is better than Gurley, who makes a h--- of alot of money.

Doesn’t make it right. Just because the Rams were idiots doesn’t mean we have to be but Jerry’s hasn’t learned a thing over the past 25 years, he’s clearly not changing now.

 

[BigD49]

This thread has some of the dumbest jerk reaction takes I've ever seen. Any attempt to simplify the on-field contribution of a player into a YPC statistic is just absurd

 

[nate dizzle]

8.9 YPC.

That is what Felix Jones averaged his rookie year.

Seriously, you guys have been fans for way too long to fall for the lightly built scatback taking over for the bellcow. Two different types of backs for two different purposes.

Troy Hambrick was the second coming of Jim Brown during Emmitt's final couple seasons.

 

[INCowboysFan]

I don't know what would happen other then Pollard producing at an elite level. I don't know if that would translate into Wins and Losses but I can pretty much guarantee he'd be one of the top producers at the RB position because we've seen this scenario play out time and time again with no name RB's getting production due to volume.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It all correlates.

Go have a look at the all time rushing attempts leaders.

Ignoring these numbers and not seeing a correlation is just ignorant.

You get a massive amount of carries and you get a massive amount of production at that position. Fantasy footballers know this. Maybe you should play..

of course more carries will translate to more yards, what you were insinuating based on the discussions in the thread is that based on performance to date, more carries will translate to similar level of production!!! production not as in total yards, but effectiveness. Pollard is a gadget back, change of pace back. he will struggle in getting the tough yards and running between the tackles as his tendency is to rely on his speed and bounce things outside. he doesn't have zeke's vision or ability to run in between traffic. you can't play spreadsheet math for football and just say if 70 carries is x production then 210 carries is 3 times. it doesn't work that way. should he be more involved and used in the game in more creative ways? yes. but he is no where close to being zeke….every coach and GM in the league would just laugh at that notion.

and to your last comment....its FANTASY FOOTBALL as in not real. imaginary....maybe you should pay attention. its not about maximizing the points in a fantasy game. its about winning games....and its funny that pollard is amassing his yards in garbage time and fantasy players are going nuts....probably saying I should have started him!!!

this is way way way to childish to argue.....fantasy football...unbelievable.

 

[Redball Express]

From the start, I've liked this kid. Yesterday was the icing on the cake for me.

Pollard:
12 rushes for 131 yards

Elliot:
24 rushes for 117 yards

To me, the kid is just better than Elliot. Don't get me wrong. I think Elliot is a good back (not work the big contract though). But I think Pollard gives the dynamic of the "break-away" run as evident in his TD run yesterday. If that was Elliot, he goes down or is caught from behind.

Pollard was brilliant.

But the Rams were long before defeated after Zeke had pounded them.

You can be excited but Pollard is here to give Zeke a break.

Not to take Zeke's job.

 

[gongjr]

Let's not get carried away.... A change of pace back's value is being a change of pace. Can't believe we're already falling in the Hambrick, Choice trap yet again

 

[INCowboysFan]

of course more carries will translate to more yards, what you were insinuating based on the discussions in the thread is that based on performance to date, more carries will translate to similar level of production!!! production not as in total yards, but effectiveness. Pollard is a gadget back, change of pace back. he will struggle in getting the tough yards and running between the tackles as his tendency is to rely on his speed and bounce things outside. he doesn't have zeke's vision or ability to run in between traffic. you can't play spreadsheet math for football and just say if 70 carries is x production then 210 carries is 3 times. it doesn't work that way. should he be more involved and used in the game in more creative ways? yes. but he is no where close to being zeke….every coach and GM in the league would just laugh at that notion.

and to your last comment....its FANTASY FOOTBALL as in not real. imaginary....maybe you should pay attention. its not about maximizing the points in a fantasy game. its about winning games....and its funny that pollard is amassing his yards in garbage time and fantasy players are going nuts....probably saying I should have started him!!!

this is way way way to childish to argue.....fantasy football...unbelievable.

Exactly right. If Pollard was in for Zeke on the goal line, I have doubts that he would have been able to score the TD's that Zeke got yesterday.

 

[Thomas82]

Let's not get carried away. Pollard played well but Zeke is the man.

Exactly!!

 

[blueblood70]

There are plenty of yards this team left on the bone from Zeke by abandon the run game so early after having great first halves. He could probably be in 2nd place by now.

very true...

 

[CATCH17]

of course more carries will translate to more yards, what you were insinuating based on the discussions in the thread is that based on performance to date, more carries will translate to similar level of production!!! production not as in total yards, but effectiveness. Pollard is a gadget back, change of pace back. he will struggle in getting the tough yards and running between the tackles as his tendency is to rely on his speed and bounce things outside. he doesn't have zeke's vision or ability to run in between traffic. you can't play spreadsheet math for football and just say if 70 carries is x production then 210 carries is 3 times. it doesn't work that way. should he be more involved and used in the game in more creative ways? yes. but he is no where close to being zeke….every coach and GM in the league would just laugh at that notion.

and to your last comment....its FANTASY FOOTBALL as in not real. imaginary....maybe you should pay attention. its not about maximizing the points in a fantasy game. its about winning games....and its funny that pollard is amassing his yards in garbage time and fantasy players are going nuts....probably saying I should have started him!!!

this is way way way to childish to argue.....fantasy football...unbelievable.

We don't know what Pollard is because Zeke and the coaches have capped him.

Again.. Alvin Kamara is a gadget player by these standards. Most RB's aren't getting a ton of carries because teams don't value the run game anymore. They value explosive plays.

If you can get explosive plays from the run game then maybe you run it more.


Some of you are telling me that the good backs get all the carries and all i've said is volume correlates to running success.

See Chris Carson...

People who follow fantasy football closely know this. Fans that don't pay attention to stats probably don't.

Zeke in all of his glory has accomplished nothing for the team. He's awesome, I like him, but he needs his snaps cut down and Pollard needs to play more until Zeke shows some resemblence of 2016 Zeke and not 2019 3 yards and a cloud of dust Zeke.