The case of Zeke Elliott and Jerry Jones

[Wolf2k5]

So we would rather kill the confidence of what we hope to be a future all pro because he made few common rookie mistakes? I'd rather let him have growing pains on the field and learn from them. Luckily this week he gets to learn with a W

 

[CowboyRoy]

who would you have taken at 4?

I still like the pick. I do think it was a mistake for Garrett to have him pass over preseason. Think Zeke is still getting use to the speed, plays, and his o-line. I think he will be ok in 3-4 games as he starts to adjust and gets more comfortable.
Emmitt also looked a little lost first few games.

I agree that Zeke will come on, but thus far I am not impressed with what he has done running the ball. Vision was one of his best attributes and I am not seeing any of that.

 

[RS12]

Tell me about why you think it was definitely a Garrett pick?

I'm with you on this. Zeke is a jersey seller, so.............

 

[CowboyRoy]

He was clearly the best pick at 4. If we had passed on a stud DL to take him I would agree with your premise but that didn't happen

I dont agree on best pick. And before you ask I am already on record as saying Ramsey was my guy. Trading back was always another good option.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What has Morris done to warrant the staring job--they reportedly both had great camps and Zeke looked great in limited preseason action.

...and bringing up the TMZ drama and the lying ***** to pretend he had "almost as bad a training camp as you could have" is weak as hell.

Ok well I already pointed out why he had a bad training camp. But you can disagree.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So we would rather kill the confidence of what we hope to be a future all pro because he made few common rookie mistakes? I'd rather let him have growing pains on the field and learn from them. Luckily this week he gets to learn with a W

If it will ruin his confidence then he wasnt worth the 4th pick. Its about earning the job and not having it spoon fed to you. Morris is a heck of a back. No shame there.

 

[Wolf2k5]

If it will ruin his confidence then he wasnt worth the 4th pick. Its about earning the job and not having it spoon fed to you. Morris is a heck of a back. No shame there.

You don't get better watching. If that was the case id be starting at RB

 

[Denim Chicken]

You are probably right about other franchises, but did those backs have trouble with dope, sexual assault and not playing much in preseason?

If Zeke has trouble with sexual assault than La'el has trouble with murder, lol.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You don't get better watching. If that was the case id be starting at RB

He can play plenty if he is playing well. I said nothing about benching him with no carries.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If Zeke has trouble with sexual assault than La'el has trouble with murder, lol.

Multiple red flags as opposed to one. And Collins didnt start did he?

 

[Denim Chicken]

I dont agree on best pick. And before you ask I am already on record as saying Ramsey was my guy. Trading back was always another good option.

I was on the Ramsey train too.

I would have paid Lamar Miller and drafted Ramsey.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I was on the Ramsey train too.

I would have paid Lamar Miller and drafted Ramsey.

With Ramsey and possibly Smith the MLB we could be well on our way to fixing this defense starting next year.

Cut Romo, and sign the best DE on the market to a big contract..............OOPS!!! never mind.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

You are probably right about other franchises, but did those backs have trouble with dope, sexual assault and not playing much in preseason?

Sexual assault? Not so much.

 

[Zekeats]

Nothing to see here.

Zeke fumbled twice for the first time ever. The one play was a great peanut punch that Zeke actually covered up for but give Norman more credit than discrediting Zeke. The second one was on Zeke. He will learn from this and ball security is one of his many strengths.

This player is our biggest chance at getting anywhere this year and I suggest the haters just go away for a little while. And when the time is right you will all jump on the bandwagon and find a seat I'm sure.

 

[Hardline]

There was no one better than Zeke at#4
The Cowboys made the right decision. Any defensive player at 4 would be a reach.

 

[Zekeats]

who would you have taken at 4?

I still like the pick. I do think it was a mistake for Garrett to have him pass over preseason. Think Zeke is still getting use to the speed, plays, and his o-line. I think he will be ok in 3-4 games as he starts to adjust and gets more comfortable.
Emmitt also looked a little lost first few games.

Everyone here would have taken Ramsey. And then they would have taken Jack. Those two must have had some impact on Sunday when their defense gave up 38.
Funny thing is Zeke is already seeing 8 and 9 man fronts. Wait till Romo gets back in or as Dak gets more comfortable and they start backing off. Geez, after only 2 games.

 

[visionary]

To preface............Jerry just got done saying that no way will Zeke's fumbles and performance lead to a reduction in his role with the Cowboys.

I would like to point out this entire Zeke Elliott drafting and anointing as a perfect example of exactly what is wrong with this franchise and Jerry Jones.

Aside from drafting a back at 4, it was clear they understood this was something that was against the grain. This is another home run, flash type of draft pick that Jerry is now staking his reputation on. I know everyone else relayed the company line with the pick, but I bet that if Jerry wasnt involved, they would not have taken Zeke.

But its more than just the drafting of Zeke, its the anointing. The minute he was drafted, this was the kid that was going to help the defense, help Romo stay healthy, and be the focus of the offense going forward. Not a realistic dream. Very low odds as we have seen thus far.

Now I drafted Zeke #5 in my draft and my entire fantasy draft is staked on him being amazing. So personally, I love the fact that Jerry is playing him no matter what. But the message to the team and to Zeke is a bad one. Zeke was anointed the starting back with zero competition. He was accused of sexual assault, played very little in the preseason and had issues with pot. Almost as bad a training camp as you could have. And a guy like Morris, who is the ideal team mate and employee that had a GREAT preseason doesnt even get a shot at the job. He should have been the guy starting in game #1. Let Zeke show something before you anoint him. Let him earn it.

In effect, this is the country club atmosphere that Jones has created all across the board. Doesnt matter how Zeke performs or what he does off the field he is going to be the guy. So all he is left to do is dream about the best Oline in football and bragging to Dickerson about breaking his record.

Draft a guy, sign a coach, worry about your reputation more than what is best for the team and meddle with your coaches to make sure they do what you want and not what they want or what they should do.

Garrett does not have the b**** to enforce discipline but there is no way he should start this week

 

[Nova]

Tell me about why you think it was definitely a Garrett pick?

I've heard people close to the team say it and there's the whole article talking about Garrett sitting down to watch Jalen and Zeke.

I believe the line was "He liked Ramsey. He loved Elliott".

 

[BHendri5]

To preface............Jerry just got done saying that no way will Zeke's fumbles and performance lead to a reduction in his role with the Cowboys.

I would like to point out this entire Zeke Elliott drafting and anointing as a perfect example of exactly what is wrong with this franchise and Jerry Jones.

Aside from drafting a back at 4, it was clear they understood this was something that was against the grain. This is another home run, flash type of draft pick that Jerry is now staking his reputation on. I know everyone else relayed the company line with the pick, but I bet that if Jerry wasnt involved, they would not have taken Zeke.

But its more than just the drafting of Zeke, its the anointing. The minute he was drafted, this was the kid that was going to help the defense, help Romo stay healthy, and be the focus of the offense going forward. Not a realistic dream. Very low odds as we have seen thus far.

Now I drafted Zeke #5 in my draft and my entire fantasy draft is staked on him being amazing. So personally, I love the fact that Jerry is playing him no matter what. But the message to the team and to Zeke is a bad one. Zeke was anointed the starting back with zero competition. He was accused of sexual assault, played very little in the preseason and had issues with pot. Almost as bad a training camp as you could have. And a guy like Morris, who is the ideal team mate and employee that had a GREAT preseason doesnt even get a shot at the job. He should have been the guy starting in game #1. Let Zeke show something before you anoint him. Let him earn it.

In effect, this is the country club atmosphere that Jones has created all across the board. Doesnt matter how Zeke performs or what he does off the field he is going to be the guy. So all he is left to do is dream about the best Oline in football and bragging to Dickerson about breaking his record.

Draft a guy, sign a coach, worry about your reputation more than what is best for the team and meddle with your coaches to make sure they do what you want and not what they want or what they should do.

Give me a break, give us all a break. You probably thought we should have drafted Jalen Ramsey. Look how he is helping the Jags win games, good grief.

 

[Risen Star]

~cracking knuckles~