The "Chip gives us Bowman" Mock

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FA:
Resign:

Ro McClain, LB
Mo Claiborne, CB
Kyle Wilber, LB
James Hanna, TE
Charles Brown, OT
Sign:
Cedric Thornton, DT
Matt Moore, QB ---- Dallas rolls with Romo, Moore, Moore
Josh Thomas, CB
and...........
Draft:
(Trade): Dal trades 1(4) to SF for 1(7), 5(141) and the rights to Navarro Bowman, LB

My logic to why the @#$% this would ever happen: CHIP.... lets start with Chip's logic. Chip does not like vocal leaders of previous regimes (Jackson, Maclin, McCoy), but he does like his own hand picked QBs (Sam Bradford) and I think he would bring the moon to S.F. by acquiring the NOCAL golden boy (Goff). I'm assuming the draft will go this way. 1.Tunsil 2.Wentz 3.Ramsey. If Chip wants it, thats the place for him to strike; even if it means giving up the best LB in the game. I think Bowman's 2014 injury will loom in Chips mind as well (more so than his 150+ tackles in 2015). One more tidbit, I think Chip is that Rob Ryanesque payback kinda guy who would be elated to stick it the Eagles; what better way than giving us Bowman. Dal logic is easy.......we trade down 3 spots, gain a 5th, add a guy whom I think could give us a different opinion of our D and have the 7th pick to draft.........

1(7) Ezekiel Elliott, RB OSU - Take out the fact that he is hands down the best RUNNING back this year, he is also the best blocker and pass catcher, too. He is better than Gurley and well worth the 7th pick and well worth the 4th overall, too.

2(34) Kevin Dodd, DE Clemson - I think he drops with the rise of the stud DTs, the numerous CBs(Hargreaves, Apple, Alexander, Jackson) and the OLBs. I also believe Bullard is a tad better (maybe even Nassib) and he will be the fringe 1st rounder who gets taken. He can be a great piece to that Dline; looks like a LE, I think he has the bend to play a little RE...actually kinda reminds me of Hardy.

3(67) Xavien Howard, CB Baylor - Another one who drops. He had some really good tape, but man O man did he have a stinker in what I think was his last game. Still, he is a bigger CB with some real skills to work with. I think someone like a Harlan Miller or even a Cyrus Jones goes before him, which leaves him to drop into our 3rd.

4(101) Sean Davis, CB/ S Maryland - This is a bias of mine because I am a bit of a Terrapin fan (I would give up way too much for Stefon Diggs, and I was screaming for an undersized DT named Andre Monroe last year. I think he works at a hardware store, now....swing and a miss). Here's the newest and I think he impressed enough at the combine to move to the 3-4th round. Previously a 6th-7th rounder. I feel like we have an injured 1st or 2nd corner every year, so lets beef up our 3rd and 4th corner.

4(135)comp- Kenyan Drake, RB Alabama - A little bit of overkill with Zeke, but I would feel comfortable with 3 RBs on the 53 if those 3 were Zeke, McFadden and Drake. Tyler Erving would be intriguing with this pick as well.

5(141)trade S.F. - Jatavis Brown, LB/hybrid Akron - My favorite player in this draft. He kinda reminds me of an 85% sized Patrick Willis. Fast...Very Fast! Somebodies getting a really good football player with this guy. No Combine invite

6(191) Devin Fuller, WR/KR/PR UCLA- Maybe a UCLA guy can tell me more about him, but he looks really good from the small sample size. Looks like he has WR2 length; looks fast enough, willing to block. Really, he looks better than Devin Street to me and maybe even Terrance Williams (looks like Fuller is a more natural catcher).


6(212) Dan Vitale, FB Northwestern- I am very sure it is not the same size or even the same type of player, but I think of Vitale as a Sam Gash. I don't know if Gash ever ran for a TD, but he caught quite a few. I think this guy could be that guy and would give Romo a new weapon in a not so obvious spot for a weapon to be.

6(216)comp- Anthony Brown, CB Purdue- Another good sized, legit corner prospect. Lets call it insurance in a place that is in dire need of it.

6(217)comp- David Morgan, TE USTA- Another guy I'm screaming for, and I never think we need another TE. This is my one exception. At 6'4" and 262 lbs., this guy really looks like a light OT and can block similar to one. He also came in 1st for TEs in 4 combine events (Bench,3-cone, 20 and 60 yard shuttle). He's also a pretty good catcher.

and then there is this


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They aren't trading the 4th overall pick to pay Bowman 9 million a year

Why not? you drop 3 spots and you have Bowman. I can't think of a player who's more deserving of $9 million for his services. Certainly more than any of the NYG FA pickups
 

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Why not? you drop 3 spots and you have Bowman. I can't think of a player who's more deserving of $9 million for his services. Certainly more than any of the NYG FA pickups

Because draft picks are worth much more then players due to the rookie contract. No lower time in the value of a veteran player then during the draft.
 

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Because draft picks are worth much more then players due to the rookie contract. No lower time in the value of a veteran player then during the draft.

I just don't get the large difference you see between pick 4 and 7. What we lose is a chance to pick @4 for a player whom your not sure will succeed. What we gain is a player @7 whom your not sure will succeed but will have a slightly less valued contract and an all pro LB who is well worth the $9 million. I'm sure we'd all jump on that if Bowman for $9 Mil was a FA opportunity.
 

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I'm sure we'd all jump on that if Bowman for $9 Mil was a FA opportunity.

What makes you think we would?

We have signed 1 player in FA to a long term contract averaging more then 9 million a year and that was Carr

The Jones dont like paying big money you teams players.
 

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Sign me up. I think people get too caught up in the numbers. If we aren't looking for a qb there is a very good chance out target at 4 will still be there at 7. I'd take the deal.
 

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The problem is not enough trade value there.

Only a 5th round pick and Bowman.

Need at least a 3rd more likely a 2nd
 

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1 year game by game. We didnt pay him 11 mil.

Im talking about long term contracts

I wanna say that Bowman's got another 2-3years on his contract, and that could probably be restructured. Hardy's contract was incentive based and rightfully so for his character concerns. We were still willing to pay Hardy 11 million if he stayed on the straight and narrow and produced enough to reflect the money he was given. Bowman has shown none of those concerns and is a $10 million a year player, as he has shown year in and year out. Worrying about taking over a lofty contract (and a justified one; not like paying a 30 yr old RB $13mil like we were considering last year) in a position where lofty contracts should be given, and that being the concern not to add Bowman on your team is like worrying about if we have enough napkins after all the hungry in the world are fed, so we shouldn't feed them. Very much secondary to the thought of having Lee, Bowman and Ro as our LBs.
 

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I wanna say that Bowman's got another 2-3years on his contract, and that could probably be restructured. Hardy's contract was incentive based and rightfully so for his character concerns. We were still willing to pay Hardy 11 million if he stayed on the straight and narrow and produced enough to reflect the money he was given. Bowman has shown none of those concerns and is a $10 million a year player, as he has shown year in and year out. Worrying about taking over a lofty contract (and a justified one; not like paying a 30 yr old RB $13mil like we were considering last year) in a position where lofty contracts should be given, and that being the concern not to add Bowman on your team is like worrying about if we have enough napkins after all the hungry in the world are fed, so we shouldn't feed them. Very much secondary to the thought of having Lee, Bowman and Ro as our LBs.

But Bowman isnt going to take a paycut and we arent going to pay him 9 million a year

Im sorry, but this is just too fanciful
 

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But Bowman isnt going to take a paycut and we arent going to pay him 9 million a year

Im sorry, but this is just too fanciful

Nor do I think Bowman should take a pay cut. Let me ask you a hypothetical; you GM - How much would you pay a 27 yr old All Pro LB who just came off a 150 tackle season and is arguably (arguments leaning in his favor) the best LB in the NFL? Not what DAL would do, because I think we pride ourselves in knowing what DAL would do when we really don't know @#$% of Dallas's plans. What would you do if you were building a team? And of course its fanciful; it's absurd; it's a MOCK draft.. But I bet you haven't seen one like this yet :)
 

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Nor do I think Bowman should take a pay cut. Let me ask you a hypothetical; you GM - How much would you pay a 27 yr old All Pro LB who just came off a 150 tackle season and is arguably (arguments leaning in his favor) the best LB in the NFL? Not what DAL would do, because I think we pride ourselves in knowing what DAL would do when we really don't know @#$% of Dallas's plans. What would you do if you were building a team? And of course its fanciful; it's absurd; it's a MOCK draft.. But I bet you haven't seen one like this yet :)

Im not paying a linebacker 9 million. Dont care how good he is

And no one knows exactly what any team is going to do, but if you carefully observe them you can usually make a fairly educated guess what they will do
 

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Im not paying a linebacker 9 million. Dont care how good he is

And no one knows exactly what any team is going to do, but if you carefully observe them you can usually make a fairly educated guess what they will do

Lee is a 6 year, $45 million with a $10 million signing bonus and $16 guaranteed. His average base is $7 mil per year. I would call Bowman a $2 mil per year superior to Lee simply by stats if you don't have the eyes to watch the game. Yes, you would. You may not like the makeup of my draft or the players or you may just not like Bowman, but for an All Pro LB in his prime, yes, you would pay $9 million.
 

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Im not paying a linebacker 9 million. Dont care how good he is

And no one knows exactly what any team is going to do, but if you carefully observe them you can usually make a fairly educated guess what they will do

Oh, and please.... I'm very much a gambling man. Throw me a dollar number and your pick for what we do with the #4 and you got yourself a bet.
 

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Lee is a 6 year, $45 million with a $10 million signing bonus and $16 guaranteed. His average base is $7 mil per year. I would call Bowman a $2 mil per year superior to Lee simply by stats if you don't have the eyes to watch the game. Yes, you would. You may not like the makeup of my draft or the players or you may just not like Bowman, but for an All Pro LB in his prime, yes, you would pay $9 million.

Lets make it an avatar bet. Ill go with Ramsey and you go with a trade down for Elliott with us getting Navarro Bowman. Fair?
 
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