The Commanders better enjoy this season...

[DallasKnight]

Im not trying to troll but dallas fans started the argument.

You started the arguement the instant you signed in. And you knew you would troglodite.

 

[ArmchairRedskin]

I've been a Cowboys fan since '77. I know Gibbs very well.
He's still the same whiny SOB with the "R" on his cap that he was 20 years ago.

Also the same guy that went to the Super Bowl 4 times in 12 years and won 3. He's the same coach that fielded a bunch of scrubs off the street in '87 and beat a Cowboys team that had it's starting QB and RB among others on the field.

Of course this has nothing to do with the percieved cap hell we'll be in this year once again that once again is only percieved as such by people who really don't know the situation.

It's also a nice "but" to soothe certain people's egos after the Commanders beat their team at home during the triplets induction into the ring of fame. God knows every Cowboys fan everywhere cried "book it!" as a win.

A "but" to ease the pain after every Cowboy fan was certain that first game was a fluke and revenge would be had in Fedex Field.

"So they swept us and are probably going to the Playoffs, but....."

Whatever makes it sting a little less, I guess.

 

[cfujskins]

Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

Ramsey or Campbell from Auburn you guys got by giving away this years #1 pick?

Also, it appears like Gregg Williams will probably get a HC job this offseason. So what type of defense of you all going to run when he's gone? I'm sure it may take awhile to get used to a new DC.

And, Gibbs is in his mid sixties. He may be around coaching 1-2 more years, then what? Dannyboy has his god at the helm right now, but who will he turn to once that's gone?

Since you have no #1 pick this year, and will be well over the cap, how many new players will Dannyboy be able to bring in? I don't see how they can add many and in order to get under the cap they'll probably have to out right release a few.

Looks to me Washington snuck up on some teams this year and Brunell had a nice late career resurgence. I don't see you all sneaking up on anyone next season and it's unlikely Brunell can duplicate his career year.
Plus I expect Dallas will be alot better next year, especially on defense where we started and played a slew of rookies. I also see the Giants getting better now that Eli has a whole year of starting under his belt. Plus, the Eagles won't be some 6 or 7 win push over next year once they get healthy and get rid of their cancerous WR.

For your sake, you better hope Wash. makes a nice run this season, because it isn't likely going to get any easier in the future.

As far a DC goes, Our system will remain in place whether Gregg Williams is here or not. Gregg Blache and Gregg Williams have a VERY similiar mindset and Blache has already stated that the System will remain.

As far as Gibbs, he will remain even after coaching. Remember, he is the team president. His mindset will stay also (Think Miami Heat and Pat Riley). Of course all of this is moot if Gregg Williams stays especially since he is the obvious successor of Gibbs.

As for our QBs, we are grooming Campbell (the right thing for a young QB). But yea, Gibbs knows nothing about QBs.

And so what, we don't have a #1 pick. There is not a hole on our team that would warrant a #1 pick and the contract to go along with it. We are talented and young at our skill positions on offense. Moss-26, Portis-24 yes 24 (younger than Julius) Cooley, all these guys are locked up long term. Our 3 major threats. Every starter on our OL is UNDER 30! Hell with the exception of Brunell so is every other starter.

As for our cap, we hear this crap EVERY year. We have a HUGE amount of dead money this year so I'm actually looking forward to the fact that we will have adaquate cap room this offseason....WITHOUT having to cut any major veins to do so.

 

[SacredStar]

I think everyone in the NFL knows that the Skins are one of the up and coming teams in the league. Gibbs has brought the franchise success again and has a built a team that will win for years to come. This year means much more to their fans than just two wins against the Cowboys. They have turned the corner and are now the class of the NFC East. That can't be denied.

Yeah....we've been hearing that same 'ole song and dance from 'Skin fans for the last 4 years. Danny Boy seems to sign the best free agents year in and year out and the 'Skin fans keep piping their organs on how good they'll be and then they tank....again....4 years straight now. And I expect year 5 this season. Washington may be on a little good run right now, but honestly, they are still not that good.

You ask who our QB of the future will be and we ask the same. What has your backup QB's done to convince anyone they are future team leaders?

Dallas' QB is better than Washington's, hands down. If Drew had 1/2 the protection Brunnell has, he'd be the NFL's top QB. If Brunnell had the same protection Bledsoe has, he'd be the NFL's worst QB.

OH...and class of the NFC East?????

Get real.

 

[Bach]

A "but" to ease the pain after every Cowboy fan was certain that first game was a fluke and revenge would be had in Fedex Field.

"So they swept us and are probably going to the Playoffs, but....."

Whatever makes it sting a little less, I guess.

Enjoy it. They earned it.

I just find it humorous how you guys think you're some kind of dominant team because you finally beat Dallas twice in a season.

I'm sure 10 in a row and 14 of 15 did a little more than "sting" a little.
Especially after each one Commanders fans all over claimed, "yeah, but wait til next time", only to get beat again, and again and again and...

So now the Commanders finally beat Dallas - so now you think you've turned the corner and the past is irrelevant...etc..etc.

Well, as soon as Dallas and Washington are both watching two other teams in the Super Bowl, this year will be "in the past" also. So by all means, enjoy it while you can. You all earned it after all these years, for whatever that's worth.

 

[riggo]

and the Commanders are the class of the NFC East? wait, last I checked, the Giants won the division...

of course they did.


get some rest.

 

[riggo]

I've been a Cowboys fan since '77. I know Gibbs very well.
He's still the same whiny SOB with the "R" on his cap that he was 20 years ago.

except he now has 3 rings and 4 nfc championships. but youre probably right- he sux.

 

[cfujskins]

Yeah....we've been hearing that same 'ole song and dance from 'Skin fans for the last 4 years. Danny Boy seems to sign the best free agents year in and year out and the 'Skin fans keep piping their organs on how good they'll be and then they tank....again....4 years straight now. And I expect year 5 this season. Washington may be on a little good run right now, but honestly, they are still not that good.

You ask who our QB of the future will be and we ask the same. What has your backup QB's done to convince anyone they are future team leaders?

Dallas' QB is better than Washington's, hands down. If Drew had 1/2 the protection Brunnell has, he'd be the NFL's top QB. If Brunnell had the same protection Bledsoe has, he'd be the NFL's worst QB.

OH...and class of the NFC East?????

Get real.

"they are still not that good"....Really? We beat the NFC's top 3 teams , have the best conference record in the NFC (This year the NFC is competitive), North-south-east-west, we had to play all the division leaders of the NFC and we go .750 (yea, our schedule is tough) in those games and we are still not that good? Man, that's hate.

as far as QBs, we have one in grooming and a coach that knows just a little something about a quaterback so I wouldn't be entirely wrong to assume we have the edge, wouldn't you agree?

Dallas Qb is better, "hands down"? Would he really be the NFL's top QB is he had half the time as Brunell? Can you look in the mirror and say that with a straight face? Sounds like somebody is pissed. It's hard to think correctly when pissed so I will excuse you.

 

[Bach]

As far a DC goes, Our system will remain in place whether Gregg Williams is here or not. Gregg Blache and Gregg Williams have a VERY similiar mindset and Blache has already stated that the System will remain..

As far as Gibbs, he will remain even after coaching. Remember, he is the team president. His mindset will stay also (Think Miami Heat and Pat Riley). Of course all of this is moot if Gregg Williams stays especially since he is the obvious successor of Gibbs.

As for our QBs, we are grooming Campbell (the right thing for a young QB). But yea, Gibbs knows nothing about QBs.

And so what, we don't have a #1 pick. There is not a hole on our team that would warrant a #1 pick and the contract to go along with it. We are talented and young at our skill positions on offense. Moss-26, Portis-24 yes 24 (younger than Julius) Cooley, all these guys are locked up long term. Our 3 major threats. Every starter on our OL is UNDER 30! Hell with the exception of Brunell so is every other starter.

As for our cap, we hear this crap EVERY year. We have a HUGE amount of dead money this year so I'm actually looking forward to the fact that we will have adaquate cap room this offseason....WITHOUT having to cut any major veins to do so.

Blache may be of the same mindset as Williams. But I recall many thinking the Commanders wouldn't miss a beat after Gibbs retired the last time because Richie Petitibon was of a similar mindset as Gibbs and an integral part of their team for years. Now that worked out quite nicely, didn't it?

And as for Gibbs, being a team President is a far cry from being the HC. I know Walsh stayed in the front office in SF and was valuable to them. But Walsh was a great personnel man, that really hasn't been Gibbs forte. So when Gibbs hangs it up in a couple of years, unless he is going to contantly look over the new HC's shoulder, I don't see him being in the front office being a major factor.

This isn't to say Washington isn't going to be in the hunt in the East the next few years. But they do have some question marks in certain areas and the rest of the division should get stronger. I really don't think they'll go 6-2 or 7-1 in the division again. They snuck up on people this year. I'm sure as far a Dallas was concerned, after being someone 14 of 15 times regardless of whether it was Gailey, Campo or Parcells or Emmitt and Aikman or Quincy and Hambrick - it was probably easy for them to think it would be much of the same. Now that it wasn't, I don't see them just thinking they have to show up and can win in the future.

So like I said, enjoy it. You guys finally got it done against us. And I really hope you all think you've turned the corner...

 

[ArmchairRedskin]

Enjoy it. They earned it.

I just find it humorous how you guys think you're some kind of dominant team because you finally beat Dallas twice in a season.

I'm sure 10 in a row and 14 of 15 did a little more than "sting" a little.
Especially after each one Commanders fans all over claimed, "yeah, but wait til next time", only to get beat again, and again and again and...

So now the Commanders finally beat Dallas - so now you think you've turned the corner and the past is irrelevant...etc..etc.

Well, as soon as Dallas and Washington are both watching two other teams in the Super Bowl, this year will be "in the past" also. So by all means, enjoy it while you can. You all earned it after all these years, for whatever that's worth.

Nobody is claiming the Commanders to be dominant. What we are is hot. The team is peaking at the right time in the season. You gotta have a lot of moxie to come back from 5-6 and most likey make the playoffs with a 10-6 record. With a little help we could win the division. Either way we control our own destiny. Win and we're in.

The reason the Commanders finally beat Dallas? The same coach you mocked earlier. The same one people claim has "lost it" or "has inhaled too many exhaust fumes", "can't coach in the modern era". The same one who was a thorn in the side of the NFC East his first go 'round.

It's funny how you cling to that precious 14 of 16 answer to a trivia question when over that same span of time the Commanders have fielded a better team. Congratulations on the streak, though. I'm sure it looks nice next to the Lombardi's.

Pure conjecture as to the playoffs. The Commanders being beat by an NFC team in the playoffs isn't a foregone conclusion seeing as how we've beaten the Seahawks, the Bears, Giants and Cowboys. Only teams we haven't beaten are the Bucs (did Alstott really cross that goal line?) and the Panthers (who we haven't faced).

I'd say we have a really good chance. Gibbs has only ever lost one first round playoff game. His teams are made for this time of year. 16-5 post season record.

 

[Bach]

except he now has 3 rings and 4 nfc championships. but youre probably right- he sux.

I didn't say he sucked. I just said he's a whiny SOB. But, I'm sure it's all part of his plan.
In the '80's just about every call went his way, especially in RFK.
So you didn't have to witness it quite as much because he got his way most of the time. But since he's been back the refs have been calling penalites on both teams and ol Joe just isn't used to that.

But it looks like his whining is starting to pay off, because the last few weeks Wash. has been getting most of the calls to go their way again. Good ol whiny Joe, it just took him a little while to indoctrinate some of these newer refs, but it looks like he's finally got through to them.

 

[ArmchairRedskin]

I didn't say he sucked. I just said he's a whiny SOB. But, I'm sure it's all part of his plan.
In the '80's just about every call went his way, especially in RFK.
So you didn't have to witness it quite as much because he got his way most of the time. But since he's been back the refs have been calling penalites on both teams and ol Joe just isn't used to that.

But it looks like his whining is starting to pay off, because the last few weeks Wash. has been getting most of the calls to go their way again. Good ol whiny Joe, it just took him a little while to indoctrinate some of these newer refs, but it looks like he's finally got through to them.

So instead of pointing out to the refs that they made a mistake or maybe an error in judgement you just stay silent and let the refs call the game anyway they see it even if it clashes with the way the rules are written? Sounds like a plan! Why not just go with the flow. Seems a lot easier that way. Hell, we should do away with instant replay. That would be even better. Who wants a coach on the sidelines whining that the refs got a call wrong?

 

[Bach]

It's funny how you cling to that precious 14 of 16 answer to a trivia question when over that same span of time the Commanders have fielded a better team. Congratulations on the streak, though. I'm sure it looks nice next to the Lombardi's.

I'd say we have a really good chance. Gibbs has only ever lost one first round playoff game. His teams are made for this time of year. 16-5 post season record.

It's funny how you your fellow fans tell us that mentioning 14 of 15 is in the "past", yet you are clinging to Gibbs record in the postseason, when he hasn't been there since 1991.

I also find it quite amusing how you and most other Commanders fans alway clamor about "fielding a better team" during the time of our annual Skin's butt-whippings. I believe last year we each went 6-10. The year before we went 10-6 while Washington was getting rid of another one of their HC's. I do admit during the three 5-11 Campo years that the Commanders probably were better, yet Dallas still managed to win 5 of 6 meeting during that time, only losing the final meaningless game at the end of Campo's last season.

Yeah, Washington fans always talking trash, even while getting their arses kicked 14 out of 15 years. Then, they finally win 2 against us and all of a sudden any mention of the previous 15 meetings is ancient history. But they then want to cling to Gibbs postseason record from the 1980's.

It's pretty typical, always wanting it both ways. So, I guess if I take a page out of your book and claim we had the better team this year you won't have a problem with that, will ya?

 

[Bach]

So instead of pointing out to the refs that they made a mistake or maybe an error in judgement you just stay silent and let the refs call the game anyway they see it even if it clashes with the way the rules are written? Sounds like a plan! Why not just go with the flow. Seems a lot easier that way. Hell, we should do away with instant replay. That would be even better. Who wants a coach on the sidelines whining that the refs got a call wrong?

Gibbs whines whenever a call goes against him. It doesn't have anything to do with it being right or wrong. I recall the same TB game when the KO returner stepped on the sideline, yet I don't recall Gibbs sending in tape about that.
He's a whiny arse that's always used to getting his way. Maybe he could just take it like a man, but I'm sure that's asking too much of him. Once Vermeil retires next week, Gibbs will take over the role of league crier.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

No doubt. They won't be affected whatsoever- we've been through this how many times?

None issue.

I remeber talking about their inpending doom way back at Silver Star Digest 2 years ago.

We need to focus on disasters on the field...and let the salary cap handle itself.

I am afraid the 2 guranteed wins a year against them are over. I said this when Gibbs was first highed but was shouted down.

- Mike G.

 

[ArmchairRedskin]

Gibbs whines whenever a call goes against him. It doesn't have anything to do with it being right or wrong. I recall the same TB game when the KO returner stepped on the sideline, yet I don't recall Gibbs sending in tape about that.
He's a whiny arse that's always used to getting his way. Maybe he could just take it like a man, but I'm sure that's asking too much of him. Once Vermeil retires next week, Gibbs will take over the role of league crier.

I like that Gibbs bothers you so much.

Maybe Gibbs is whiny in your eyes, but at least he's no gun for hire that fires off at the nearest assistant/player when things don't go his way. Didn't he hit some poor schmuck on the sidelines not too long ago?

Btw, you can't prove either way that Betts was/wasn't over the line. The views were inconclusive and really from what I could tell, he didn't step over. Like I said, hard to tell. If they had ruled him out, there's no way they would have overturned it. No indisputable visual evidence.

Not like those fake PI calls last year in Fedex....

 

[csmays]

two of which were in strike shortened seasons.....correct???

Correct. What is your point? You wouldn't have claimed the championships during the strike shortened season?

 

[csmays]

he's probably banned!!! your mods are waaayyyyy to sensitive!!!!!



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As a Commander fan, I actually agree with this. Extremeskins site is a joke of a web site.

 

[ArmchairRedskin]

It's funny how you your fellow fans tell us that mentioning 14 of 15 is in the "past", yet you are clinging to Gibbs record in the postseason, when he hasn't been there since 1991.

Until next weekend, right?

I also find it quite amusing how you and most other Commanders fans alway clamor about "fielding a better team" during the time of our annual Skin's butt-whippings. I believe last year we each went 6-10. The year before we went 10-6 while Washington was getting rid of another one of their HC's. I do admit during the three 5-11 Campo years that the Commanders probably were better, yet Dallas still managed to win 5 of 6 meeting during that time, only losing the final meaningless game at the end of Campo's last season.

For clarification, the Commanders overall record was better since the start of the streak. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, Washington fans always talking trash, even while getting their arses kicked 14 out of 15 years. Then, they finally win 2 against us and all of a sudden any mention of the previous 15 meetings is ancient history. But they then want to cling to Gibbs postseason record from the 1980's.

First off, how much do those wins over us help you get into the post season? They must count for something because they're so relevant and you keep harping on them.

As you'll find out in a few weeks, those post season records are tangible proof that Gibbs is one of the great ones. History will repeat itself. I'd love for you guys to make it in and meet us in the Championship game. It would be great to end your season with a third victory putting you out of the playoffs and us into the big dance.

It's pretty typical, always wanting it both ways. So, I guess if I take a page out of your book and claim we had the better team this year you won't have a problem with that, will ya?

That makes no sense. Our record proves it.

 

[Bach]

Until next weekend, right?

First off, how much do those wins over us help you get into the post season? They must count for something because they're so relevant and you keep harping on them.

As you'll find out in a few weeks, those post season records are tangible proof that Gibbs is one of the great ones. History will repeat itself. I'd love for you guys to make it in and meet us in the Championship game. It would be great to end your season with a third victory putting you out of the playoffs and us into the big dance.

That makes no sense. Our record proves it.

I think our sweeps over Washington helped us get in the postseason in '98, '99 and '03. Just like yours over us is probably going to get you all a wildcard this year. Your point?

What makes no sense? There were several years we were better than Washington when we swept them and even if we weren't, we still swept them. And from what I see, Dallas and Washington are both 9-6, so I don't think your record proves anything. I'm not going to say Dallas is the better team, unlike most Commanders fans tried to claim they were better every year even though they got swept by us 6 out of 7 seasons.


As for history repeating itself, please remember to come back once they get bumped off. I do think that they may win if the get to play Tampa. But if they have to go to NY, I think the Giants get payback. And if they do get TB and win, then Seattle or Chicago will get them the following week.

But by all means, keep thinking Super Bowl and acting like it's still 1991. It'll be all the more entertaining when you lose.