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Hostile said:
I guess I don't get it. Someone says something you consider silly. So much so that you ask a question to point out it is silly. The question you ask applies to your team as well. But it isn't silly when applied to your team because you didn't begin the silliness?

Is that how it works?

correct. i think.

you see, 'cowboy love' ( :D ) made the claim that the boys would own the league for the next 10 years. a team rarely wins, let alone 'takes the league' for years, without a decent coach.

the burden of proof is upon him to back it up- not i, hostile. you should know that.
 

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riggo said:
correct. i think.

you see, 'cowboy love' ( :D ) made the claim that the boys would own the league for the next 10 years. a team rarely wins, let alone 'takes the league' for years, without a decent coach.

the burden of proof is upon him to back it up- not i, hostile. you should know that.
I'll defer to you for etiquette on silliness, because it still doesn't make sense.

:grin:
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
Just saying that I like our direction VS. the Deadskins direction in the long run.

No way in hell the deadskins win the SB this year, so who cares. Who cared that we went to the playoffs and got dismissed rudely, to come back the next year and suck.

I'd rather build a strong contender for years to come, and if you look at our defense and the young flux of talent, and you imagine what BP will do with the offense this offseason (pray pray pray he does) then we can and will dominate, and not just back into the playoffs.

Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

When Parcells leaves, are you going to change back to a 4-3 system AGAIN, which requires different personell and time for the learning curve?

How long will it be before you have an OL that stays together?

You say that you like the direction of team in the long run so that means your team under Parcells is NOT in a win-now mode, no?
 

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cfujskins said:
Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

When Parcells leaves, are you going to change back to a 4-3 system AGAIN, which requires different personell and time for the learning curve?

How long will it be before you have an OL that stays together?

You say that you like the direction of team in the long run so that means your team under Parcells is NOT in a win-now mode, no?

You do know a team can be in win now mode and have a plan in place for the future right?

When you are playing Ware, Canty and Spears on D, Crayton, Witten, Jones and Barber, Petitti on Offense.

That is young players that should be here for the future.

Now...does that mean we will be better down the road...I think so, but than again I don't have a crystal ball.

As far as the 4-3 and 3-4...we currently mix both systems in and have the D-Line to play the 4-3 if need be.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
You do know a team can be in win now mode and have a plan in place for the future right?

When you are playing Ware, Canty and Spears on D, Crayton, Witten, Jones and Barber, Petitti on Offense.

That is young players that should be here for the future.

Now...does that mean we will be better down the road...I think so, but than again I don't have a crystal ball.

As far as the 4-3 and 3-4...we currently mix both systems in and have the D-Line to play the 4-3 if need be.


Due to the youth and promise on defense, I'd say you are pretty solid for the long run, personell-wise. I'll give you that.

But on the offensive side of the ball....I just don't see it. There are so many question marks to say that the offense is even close long-term wise. Age on the OL and at the skill positions means that the rebuilding process is inevitable. Rebuilding the OL takes time and is something that can't be shortcutted if one wants to have consistent success. Our OL has been together for 2 years and they are just now comming onto their own. OT is where you start (Draft high).

QB....I don't mean to beat a dead horse....BUT you guys are going to HAVE to suck it up and roll the dice on one in the draft instead of playing bargain hunter or even worse- diamond digger. Until you get a home grown QB who is drafted under a system, groomed under the (SAME) system, and plays under the (SAME), your chances of CONSISTENT long term success is dramatically decreased.
 

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I think everyone in the NFL knows that the Skins are one of the up and coming teams in the league. Gibbs has brought the franchise success again and has a built a team that will win for years to come. This year means much more to their fans than just two wins against the Cowboys. They have turned the corner and are now the class of the NFC East. That can't be denied.

The Boys on the other hand have A LOT of question marks at many positions on the field as well as head coach. They don't have a QB, a reliable RB, an O-line, a K, or much at WR. I doubt Parcells will be back.

Unless something big happens this offseason, the Skins, Bears, and Seahawks are going to be the big favorites in the NFC next year.

I'm tired, so can call yourself an idiot
 

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cfujskins said:
Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

When Parcells leaves, are you going to change back to a 4-3 system AGAIN, which requires different personell and time for the learning curve?

How long will it be before you have an OL that stays together?

You say that you like the direction of team in the long run so that means your team under Parcells is NOT in a win-now mode, no?
Could be Henson. I don't know, but that's why I said we were building a franchise. I know BP doesn't have to patience, but he won't be here long, and we will continue the 3-4 (that's the personell we have and I don't think JJ is stupid enough to change that now).

He will get a Bill Parcells cloan to run this team - Book it! - The Offensive Line will be fixed this off season, remember. If Henson turns out to be something that Parcells has been hiding, then there you go, if not, then we will be drafting one within the next 2 years or picking up one via trade (Phillip Rivers)

Don't think this organization is sitting around watching the deadskins of the world make a little noise and do nothing.
 

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and the Commanders are the class of the NFC East? wait, last I checked, the Giants won the division...
 

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BTW, Kansas City gave you all the ingredients to winning against us. They ran the ball wide (sweeps), which kept our passrush at bay all day (not knowing whether it was run or pass) and to storm our tackles.

Job well done, we were exposed on both lines. It's up to us to fix it.
 

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riggo said:
eh, these kids. most of them had never ever heard of joe gibbs. you can't tell them anything, you know.

at least they know who he is now. you'd think he's earned a little respect around here after this season.

I give no respect to a coach who constantly b1tches about the refs and goes running to the commissioner
 

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riggo said:
eh, these kids. most of them had never ever heard of joe gibbs. you can't tell them anything, you know.

at least they know who he is now. you'd think he's earned a little respect around here after this season.

I've been a Cowboys fan since '77. I know Gibbs very well.
He's still the same whiny SOB with the "R" on his cap that he was 20 years ago.
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
Could be Henson. I don't know, but that's why I said we were building a franchise. I know BP doesn't have to patience, but he won't be here long, and we will continue the 3-4 (that's the personell we have and I don't think JJ is stupid enough to change that now).

He will get a Bill Parcells cloan to run this team - Book it! - The Offensive Line will be fixed this off season, remember. If Henson turns out to be something that Parcells has been hiding, then there you go, if not, then we will be drafting one within the next 2 years or picking up one via trade (Phillip Rivers)

Don't think this organization is sitting around watching the deadskins of the world make a little noise and do nothing.

What you listed would be a good start, but it's all just assumption. The same needs have been there for years and the same suggestions as well. A new coach is not guaranteed to change that (as it didn't in the past).
 

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cfujskins said:
What you listed would be a good start, but it's all just assumption. The same needs have been there for years and the same suggestions as well. A new coach is not guaranteed to change that (as it didn't in the past).
We overhauled the defense, what does that say? Chances of BP starting all of those rookies are slim.

Meaning, he could do the same for the offense next year. Remember this, even as bad as our line has been most of the year, had we had a field goal kicker, we'd be at the top looking down.
 

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cfujskins said:
Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

When Parcells leaves, are you going to change back to a 4-3 system AGAIN, which requires different personell and time for the learning curve?

How long will it be before you have an OL that stays together?

You say that you like the direction of team in the long run so that means your team under Parcells is NOT in a win-now mode, no?

Who's going to be your QB for the long run?

Ramsey or Campbell from Auburn you guys got by giving away this years #1 pick? :lmao:

Also, it appears like Gregg Williams will probably get a HC job this offseason. So what type of defense of you all going to run when he's gone? I'm sure it may take awhile to get used to a new DC.

And, Gibbs is in his mid sixties. He may be around coaching 1-2 more years, then what? Dannyboy has his god at the helm right now, but who will he turn to once that's gone?

Since you have no #1 pick this year, and will be well over the cap, how many new players will Dannyboy be able to bring in? I don't see how they can add many and in order to get under the cap they'll probably have to out right release a few.

Looks to me Washington snuck up on some teams this year and Brunell had a nice late career resurgence. I don't see you all sneaking up on anyone next season and it's unlikely Brunell can duplicate his career year.
Plus I expect Dallas will be alot better next year, especially on defense where we started and played a slew of rookies. I also see the Giants getting better now that Eli has a whole year of starting under his belt. Plus, the Eagles won't be some 6 or 7 win push over next year once they get healthy and get rid of their cancerous WR.

For your sake, you better hope Wash. makes a nice run this season, because it isn't likely going to get any easier in the future.
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
We overhauled the defense, what does that say? Chances of BP starting all of those rookies are slim.

Meaning, he could do the same for the offense next year. Remember this, even as bad as our line has been most of the year, had we had a field goal kicker, we'd be at the top looking down.

That's true, but Parcells is defensive minded coach (as was your previous coach). That was to be expected. As far as offense, it's a different monster. Truthfully, the best bet would be to bring in an offensive guru to totally control the offense. There has to be a system there, IMO.
 

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And, Gibbs is in his mid sixties. He may be around coaching 1-2 more years, then what? Dannyboy has his god at the helm right now, but who will he turn to once that's gone?

Richie Petitbon
 

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cfujskins said:
That's true, but Parcells is defensive minded coach (as was your previous coach). That was to be expected. As far as offense, it's a different monster. Truthfully, the best bet would be to bring in an offensive guru to totally control the offense. There has to be a system there, IMO.
It won't happen under Bill Parcells, he's too much of a control freak. He's constantly breathing his hot man air down Paytons neck to make sure the call is right.

All I know is, I hope the rivalry is back on. That means, both teams are great....
 

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Bach said:
I've been a Cowboys fan since '77. I know Gibbs very well.
He's still the same whiny SOB with the "R" on his cap that he was 20 years ago.

:lmao2:
i hate that R and those big glasses- he needs to break out those brownish (bad shade of burgandy) sweaters.
 
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