The comparsion no cowboy fan wants to talk about

[DaBoys4Life]

So you want to see Felix fail because it is "sweet".

I'm sorry but that makes you a crappy fan. I hated TO but I never wanted to see him do poorly, because he was a cowboy.

I don't think felix is failing. I don't think he's producing as much as he can/ or should be. Nor is he producing at the level of two guys we passed on to go the way of Felix.

 

[DallasEast]

Dude. You predicted 5-11. It's only halfway through the season and you're ALREADY wrong. Just shut up.

I think they are a 5-11 team.

If we're going to lose I'd rather go 5-11 so that we can get a decent draft pick out of it. No point in going 9-7 or 8-8 and not making the playoffs.

No one could make this stuff up even if they sat down with pen, paper and a fifth of Jack Daniels.

 

[JBond]

I don't see anything wrong with the OP revisiting this subject.

When Felix was doing well and Mendenhall was struggling, the guys who originally liked the Felix pick were roaring.

I wanted Mendenhall because he was rated higher on most draft boards (apparently including Dallas').

But I understand why they took Felix. He adds a different dimension ... can do some different things ... is faster, etc.

Let's be fair about this. Mendenhall is playing well right now and is showing the ability to be an every-down back.

Chief, If he had posted in the same manner you just did, there would not be an issue. The art of effective communication is something he can not grasp. His tone would be appropriate on the Steelers board, but to call out fellow Cowboy fans with a faulty theory is annoying. He does this on a regular basis.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

No one could make this stuff up even if they sat down with pen, paper and a fifth of Jack Daniels.

Hey man stop giving away my trademark secrets thats how I brainstorm.

 

[AdamJT13]

The only reason Mendenhall has better numbers than Felix this season is because Willie Parker got hurt and Mendenhall has been the main guy for the past five games. Mendenhall had only 45 yards in three games before Parker started missing games.

If Barber had missed most of the past five games and Felix had gotten 93 carries during that time, he might have far more yards than Mendenhall has, given that Felix's career YPC is a mere 7.94 -- the highest in NFL history.

 

[iceberg]

There's 2 key difference.

1 They were drafted back to back to back
2 I constantly get crap about my bashing of Felix.

This is vindication and it's sweet. So the same way I took yall shots take mine and accept them. It's all good nature ribbing anyways.

then quit bashing cowboys players.

outside of that, i can see you've quickly, well, in record time to be honest, catapulted yourself into the outter fringes of obsessed-driven stupidity.

you either feel totally at home there or you need to do it again. not sure which yet.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I don't think felix is failing. I don't think he's producing as much as he can/ or should be. Nor is he producing at the level of two guys we passed on to go the way of Felix.

Well, let's review how things could have been different then:

Johnson - Would back up Marian Barber
Mendenhall - Would back up Marian Barber
Jones - IS backing up Marian Barber and sharing time with Barber and Choice.

Wade and Garrett have both stayed pretty staunch in their assessment that Barber is the starter regardless, so speculating that either of those two would overtake him is just that, speculation. Since two are starters and one is not, the only realistic stat you posted that you can measure them by is YPC, which Felix is much better at.

By The way, I would have loved CJ when we were drafting. I watched him a lot in college and he was a monster on the field. But, thems the breaks.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

YPC mean crap when you're at 41 carries.

Actually, YPC is a very meaningful stat for players who are deployed in the manner that Felix Jones is.

Jones was acquired for his big play potential and to provide a change-of-pace. Consequently, he receives only a limited number of touches per game and must be able to take full advantage of each one.

Mendenhall does not possess Jones's speed, elusiveness, or big play potential. He requires a larger number of carries to be successful.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The only reason Mendenhall has better numbers than Felix this season is because Willie Parker got hurt and Mendenhall has been the main guy for the past five games. Mendenhall had only 45 yards in three games before Parker started missing games.

If Barber had missed most of the past five games and Felix had gotten 93 carries during that time, he might have far more yards than Mendenhall has, given that Felix's career YPC is a mere 7.94 -- the highest in NFL history.

Did Felix not start this season? When he did he got hurt? That's called not making the most of your opportunities. Mb3 missed games this year. Nice try though Adam. Better luck next time.

 

[CF74]

We already have a Mendenhal type back in Barber. Felix is the better compliment and has a higher ypc. The reality is that we have to many weapons on offense which isn't a bad thing, it just limits everybodys reps...

 

[joseephuss]

Well, let's review how things could have been different then:

Johnson - Would back up Marian Barber
Mendenhall - Would back up Marian Barber
Jones - IS backing up Marian Barber and sharing time with Barber and Choice.

Wade and Garrett have both stayed pretty staunch in their assessment that Barber is the starter regardless, so speculating that either of those two would overtake him is just that, speculation. Since two are starters and one is not, the only realistic stat you posted that you can measure them by is YPC, which Felix is much better at.

By The way, I would have loved CJ when we were drafting. I watched him a lot in college and he was a monster on the field. But, thems the breaks.

Great points. Mendenhall and Johnson are both good backs and if either were in Dallas they would have a fraction of the production they have shown thus far because they would have far fewer opportunities.

I don't think passing on either guy is a problem when the guy Dallas did get is still a very good running back. In addition, Dallas was able to draft yet another good back in Tashard Choice. It would be a problem if Dallas passed on those two guys and ended up with nothing.

Plus, it is not as if the offense is struggling.

I also think I remember someone showing last year that the OP did not promote the drafting of Chris Johnson. He was a Mendhenhall fan before the draft, but never advocated Johnson over Jones.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Felix is a special back.

The Mendenhall's can be found in any draft even in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds.

I personally think Felix>>Mendenhall and Choice>>Mendenhall.

 

[AdamJT13]

Did Felix not start this season? When he did he got hurt? That's called not making the most of your opportunities. Mb3 missed games this year. Nice try though Adam. Better luck next time.

And Mendenhall got hurt last year. He hasn't exactly proven to be durable.


CAREER STATS
Rashard Mendenhall 119 carries, 631 rushing yards, four total TDs
Felix Jones 71 carries, 564 rushing yards, five total TDs


Mendenhall has 48 more carries, 67 more yards and one less touchdown. Yep, he's definitely a star and Felix is a wasted pick.

 

[BearMe]

Actually, YPC is a very meaningful stat for players who are deployed in the manner that Felix Jones is.

Jones was acquired for his big play potential and to provide a change-of-pace. Consequently, he receives only a limited number of touches per game and must be able to take full advantage of each one.

Mendenhall does not possess Jones's speed, elusiveness, or big play potential. He requires a larger number of carries to be successful.

Mendenhall is not just a power back. He has breakaway speed. He actually ran a faster 40 than Felix at the combine.

http://www.mattrauch.com/2008-nfl-combine-results.php

Mendenhall can also block in a way that Felix can only imagine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthAF-vU7V0

 

[superpunk]

Mendenhall can also block in a way that Felix can only imagine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthAF-vU7V0

He knocked a blitzing LB (who was already stumbling) over. Impressive.

I believe Felix put a mighty block on a blitzing LB either last week or the week before. By the time Felix was done with him he was about 15 yards out of the play.

 

[dbair1967]

Rashard Mendenhall 100 carries 573 yards 4 TDS 5.7 YPC
Chris Johnson 144 carries 959 yards 6 TDS 6.7 YPC
Felix Jones 41 carries 298 yards 1 TD 7.3 YPC

Yall wondered why I was screaming bloody murder when we picked Felix. Keep your agendas up fellas. So just remember the arguements. From that draft after the draft and their rookies season. He who laughs last laughs the best. Felix was a waste of a pick. CJ is amazing and Mendenhall is doing wonders in pitt. Oh well what could of been. I would get into receiving stats but my point is already made. So you felix backers have nothing to hold your hat on anymore.

Great post, cant wait to see more.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Mendenhall is not just a power back. He has breakaway speed. He actually ran a faster 40 than Felix at the combine.

http://www.mattrauch.com/2008-nfl-combine-results.php

Mendenhall can also block in a way that Felix can only imagine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthAF-vU7V0

I never claimed Mendenhall was "just a power back." I asserted that Felix was a change-of-pace back and a more dangerous big play threat, which his numbers bear out.

 

[JBond]

And Mendenhall got hurt last year. He hasn't exactly proven to be durable.


CAREER STATS
Rashard Mendenhall 119 carries, 631 rushing yards, four total TDs
Felix Jones 71 carries, 564 rushing yards, five total TDs


Mendenhall has 48 more carries, 67 more yards and one less touchdown. Yep, he's definitely a star and Felix is a wasted pick.

Mendenhall is not just a power back. He has breakaway speed. He actually ran a faster 40 than Felix at the combine.

http://www.mattrauch.com/2008-nfl-combine-results.php

Mendenhall can also block in a way that Felix can only imagine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthAF-vU7V0

Care to elaborate on your theory?

 

[Primetime42]

Felix Jones never got benched for not knowing the playbook.

 

[Dallas]

Great post, cant wait to see more.

I try not to encourage those who lack a certain understanding of the game.


Stop being an enabler dbair...:laugh2: