CFZ The Cowboys-Eagles rivalry by decade

[Diehardblues]

Jimmy never had to deal with free agency and the salary cap when he built those great teams. It’s free agency and the salary cap that tore those teams apart. Jimmy had a deal with a salary cap and free agency when he went to Miami and didn’t have a lot of success. Managing a salary, cap and players allowed to test for agency has made it more difficult. It’s hard to keep teams together these days.

There was free agency . And to be fair Jimmy had to build around an aging Marino he wanted to trade for a total rebuild which Miami owner wouldn’t do. Jimmy did get Miami back to a playoff team. And remember no HC has ever won a SB for another team,

The Cap era depends on drafting well every year . And not just in 1st round. If you have an eye for talent deep in the draft you can turn around teams quickly. Yes, teams are practically ripped apart almost every year with unlimited FA. You have to replace veterans with draft picks yearly,

But no doubt the Cap has impacted the league. It’s weaken depth overall. It’s watered down the talent overall . No longer have backups who could be starting elsewhere or aging veterans who hang around for depth.

There’s still gravy on the top but little under the hood and why injuries are so much more impactful.

Dallas this era with some great 1st round picks which has built our core have still missed too much even in 1st round along with risk taken in 2nd rd and misses throughout the draft and why we haven’t had more success up until now.

 

[CCBoy]

There was free agency . And to be fair Jimmy had to build around an aging Marino he wanted to trade for a total rebuild which Miami owner wouldn’t do. Jimmy did get Miami back to a playoff team. And remember no HC has ever won a SB for another team,

The Cap era depends on drafting well every year . And not just in 1st round. If you have an eye for talent deep in the draft you can turn around teams quickly. Yes, teams are practically ripped apart almost every year with unlimited FA. You have to replace veterans with draft picks yearly,

But no doubt the Cap has impacted the league. It’s weaken depth overall. It’s watered down the talent overall . No longer have backups who could be starting elsewhere or aging veterans who hang around for depth.

There’s still gravy on the top but little under the hood and why injuries are so much more impactful.

Dallas this era with some great 1st round picks which has built our core have still missed too much even in 1st round along with risk taken in 2nd rd and misses throughout the draft and why we haven’t had more success up until now.

Lower picks today, are judged by playing time on the carpet while the player is developing...not just a starter or not. That is another indicator of strength of draft addition.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

It felt a lot worse than 13-8. I’m shocked that, after Campo left, the Cowboys went 8-7 against them the rest of the decade.

 

[CCBoy]

Egirls have made the most of their recent playoff appearances.

How often do the loser of a Super Bowl even return the next season? Very, very low...

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Just think in 28 years the Eagles fans on here will be whining they haven't won since 2017. And have not been to the SB since 2022. We have that to look forward to.

Yeah but it could be 56 years for us by then

 

[Bobhaze]

Most fans seem to want to just sweep those under the carpet like it never happened. A lot of fans here weren’t around for those years. Some have never even seen the Cowboys win a divisional round playoff game. Those are the ones who are the most frustrated.

I like looking at all the Jerry seasons too, sweeping nothing under the rug. We could look at the “Jerry years” like this by decade:

• 1989-1999- the Cowboys won 12 playoff games, including 3 NFC championships and 3 SBs.
• 2000-2009- Cowboys won 1 wild card playoff game.
• 2010-2019- Cowboys won 2 wild card games.
• 2020-2023- Cowboys have won 1 wild card game.

So the 4 total decades of the “Jerry years” translates into one great decade.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Most fans seem to want to just sweep those under the carpet like it never happened. A lot of fans here weren’t around for those years. Some have never even seen the Cowboys win a divisional round playoff game. Those are the ones who are the most frustrated.

You guys are the ones who keep trying to sweep the fact that Jimmy was in full control of football operations while Jerry stayed in his office signing checks as per Johnson's contract.

Fact: This team was never more successful than when Jerry was NOT GM and has been a joke since he took full control.

 

[KJJ]

I like looking at all the Jerry seasons too, sweeping nothing under the rug. We could look at the “Jerry years” like this by decade:

• 1989-1999- the Cowboys won 12 playoff games, including 3 NFC championships and 3 SBs.
• 2000-2009- Cowboys won 1 wild card playoff game.
• 2010-2019- Cowboys won 2 wild card games.
• 2020-2023- Cowboys have won 1 wild card game.

So the 4 total decades of the “Jerry years” translates into one great decade.

I’m thankful for that one great decade, because it was a special time to be a Cowboys fan. A lot of fans from other teams have never experienced a decade like the Cowboys had in the 90s. I just wish Jerry would go back to the formula he used back then, but his ego won’t allow him to.

 

[KJJ]

You guys are the ones who keep trying to sweep the fact that Jimmy was in full control of football operations while Jerry stayed in his office signing checks as per Johnson's contract.

Fact: This team was never more successful than when Jerry was NOT GM and has been a joke since he took full control.

The salary cap and free agency didn’t come in until after Jimmy built those great teams. It likely would have been a lot different had the cap and free agency started in 1990. We were able to build some great depth, especially on defense. Our defensive rotation was second to none. We had several backups, including Leon Lett who could’ve started for other teams. Even if Jerry was using the same exact formula these days, it would be hard to have that kind of success because it’s hard to keep teams together, especially with QBs making a ton of money. Jimmy didn’t have a lot of success when he went to Miami because of the cap and free agency. He said in an interview that the cap made it very difficult to wheel and deal. He couldn’t bring in the players he wanted. It’s a lot different these days than it was when Jerry and Jimmy first came into the league.

 

[Bobhaze]

The salary cap and free agency didn’t come in until after Jimmy built those great teams. It likely would have been a lot different had the cap and free agency started in 1990. We were able to build some great depth, especially on defense. Our defensive rotation was second to none. We had several backups, including Leon Lett who could’ve started for other teams. Even if Jerry was using the same exact formula these days, it would be hard to have that kind of success because it’s hard to keep teams together, especially with QBs making a ton of money. Jimmy didn’t have a lot of success when he went to Miami because of the cap and free agency. He said in an interview that the cap made it very difficult to wheel and deal. He couldn’t bring in the players he wanted. It’s a lot different these days than it was when Jerry and Jimmy first came into the league.

I agree it’s a lot different league than the 90s.

Unfortunately for us fans, Jerry and his FO haven’t been able to figure out how to have much playoff success for three decades. If not for that one great decade, Jerry would have zero skins on the wall.

Whatever anyone thinks about Jerry, he has proven to be a poor builder of teams for playoff success. Again unfortunately for us, that’s not an opinion.

 

[KJJ]

I agree it’s a lot different league than the 90s.

Unfortunately for us fans, Jerry and his FO haven’t been able to figure out how to have much playoff success for three decades. If not for that one great decade, Jerry would have zero skins on the wall.

Whatever anyone thinks about Jerry, he has proven to be a poor builder of teams for playoff success. Again unfortunately for us, that’s not an opinion.

The ongoing problems since Jimmy left is Jerry wants to build a team his way. He wants to win a championship with a team he assembled. This is why he refuses to change and continues to undermine his head coaches. If he gives anyone too much control, they’ll get the credit for winning. I don’t see this path he’s on ever changing while he’s still around.

 

[TwentyOne]

You mean 3 SB wins in 4 years included, 4 straight NFCCG's.

He was talking about the Jerry years. You posted the Jimmy Johnson ones.

 

[jazzcat22]

He was talking about the Jerry years. You posted the Jimmy Johnson ones.

So Jerry was not around when Jimmy was there?

 

[Bobhaze]

So Jerry was not around when Jimmy was there?

Jazz, it’s worth remembering that Jimmy had it in his contract beginning in 1989 that gave him full control over personnel including players, assistant coaches, trainers, etc. When the cowboys started winning big, Jerry tried to rework the contract each year to give Jimmy more money, but also to strip that power clause that had been in his contract from the beginning. Jimmy refused.

Yes Jerry was around in the early 90s but Jimmy had the power over players and coaches that no other Cowboys HC has had since. Who was more responsible for the best decade in what we’ve called on this thread, “the Jerry years”? Jimmy. Yes Jerry was there but he didn’t make the same decisions he’s been making the last 30 years. And we have the results that speak for themselves.

 

[jazzcat22]

Well I did say we all know it was more Jimmy. But funny how some want to dismiss Jerry”s part.

 

[Whyjerry]

The Cowboys have been playing the dirty birds over 60 years. In those nearly 7 decades, the two teams have played each other 128 times with the Cowboys holding the edge all time with a 73-55 advantage.

Here’s a look at the rivalry by decade. The records here include playoff games.

• 1960s: 10-9 (Eagles)
• 1970s: 17-3 (Cowboys)
• 1980s: 10-10 (Tie)
• 1990s: 14-8 (Cowboys)
• 2000-2009: 13-8 (Eagles)
• 2010-19: 11-9 (Cowboys)
• 2020-present: 4-2 (Cowboys)

The two teams have met 4 times in the playoffs and the Cowboys lead that 3-1.

Here is a comparison of overall playoff wins of both teams by decade:

• 1960s: Cowboys (1), eagles (1)
• 1970s: Cowboys (14), eagles (1)
• 1980s: Cowboys (5), eagles (2)
• 1990s: Cowboys (12) eagles (2)
• 2000-09: Cowboys (1) eagles (10)
• 2010-19: Cowboys (2) eagles (4)
• 2020- present: Cowboys (1) eagles (2)

Since 2000, the eagles have won 16 playoff games, won 3 conference championship games and 1 SB.
Since 2000, the Cowboys have won 4 wild card games.

Jerry!

 

[TwentyOne]

Well I did say we all know it was more Jimmy. But funny how some want to dismiss Jerry”s part.

The only part that Jerry had was giving the money. And he should have stuck to that.

 

[Bobhaze]

Well I did say we all know it was more Jimmy. But funny how some want to dismiss Jerry”s part.

Jerry’s part has been 1989-2023. One great decade and three playoff dud decades. I am including Jerry in it all, lol!

 

[Diehardblues]

How often do the loser of a Super Bowl even return the next season? Very, very low...

Im not sure. Probably low but I’d imagine they are more often still in the playoffs making some noise and a tougher out than some.

 

[Doomsay]

You mean 3 SB wins in 4 years included, 4 straight NFCCG's.

Those were the Jimmy years / teams, silly.