CFZ The Cowboys-Eagles rivalry by decade

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Before the Eagles won their first and only Super Bowl in 2017, there was this joke:

It was reported that the Philadelphia Eagles home office was broken into.

Two men stole the entire contents of their Super Bowl Trophy Room.


Police are still looking for two men carrying a large green and white carpet.
eagles won 3 titles before it was called the stanley cup, those count, superbowl is a title. stanley cup wasnt invented in the early years, why cant those count for football then? titles are 5-4 for cowboys, thats close.
 

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eagles won 3 titles before it was called the stanley cup, those count, superbowl is a title. stanley cup wasnt invented in the early years, why cant those count for football then? titles are 5-4 for cowboys, thats close.
In your dreams.

You want to compare a post World War II title of a 10 team league to a modern league of 28 to 32 teams?

Those championships today would be the same as winning a division round in the playoffs.

Only an Eagles fan.....

How old were you in 1947? Did they already invent plastic by then or were the helmets still made out of leather?
 

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Jimmy never had to deal with free agency and the salary cap when he built those great teams. It’s free agency and the salary cap that tore those teams apart. Jimmy had a deal with a salary cap and free agency when he went to Miami and didn’t have a lot of success. Managing a salary, cap and players allowed to test for agency has made it more difficult. It’s hard to keep teams together these days.
Jimmy would have dealt with the Cowboys salary cap and free agency much better than Jones because he knew who was dispensable and indispensable.

Jimmy would never sign Deion to the kind of contract that forced the mass exodus of a half dozen other players.

Jimmy wasn't sentimental, he wouldn't have written contracts based on previous achievements.

It is difficult to keep teams together but why should that be the focus? You want the team to continue winning.

Those that want to undervalue Jimmy's contribution and abilities to build a team always want to point to the time he spent with the Dolphins. They want to forget that Jimmy was greatly handicapped by having to wait a year before taking over the team because Shula didn't want to retire.

In addition, he wanted to replace Marino but the owner refused to allow it. Therefore, Jimmy had to wait before he could begin to develop his own QB while enduring Marino's cap hit at age 36 to 38.
 

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I agree it’s a lot different league than the 90s.

Unfortunately for us fans, Jerry and his FO haven’t been able to figure out how to have much playoff success for three decades. If not for that one great decade, Jerry would have zero skins on the wall.

Whatever anyone thinks about Jerry, he has proven to be a poor builder of teams for playoff success. Again unfortunately for us, that’s not an opinion.
That has a lot to do with Jerry's commitment to loyalties and giving coaches to lead in scheme, player selections, and how opponents are attacked.

He has never sold out and devalued drafted additions...but that part of the game has been improved at a high level over the past 10 years. Picks that became starters is the que there.

That window is about 10 years of strong respectability.

As to current status, the franchise has within the past three seasons as been in developing that group as well. The Eagles have a two year current picture and before that, Andy Reid driven...when he left (was fired) Philadelphia looks weaker than did the Cowboys.
 

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In your dreams.

You want to compare a post World War II title of a 10 team league to a modern league of 28 to 32 teams?

Those championships today would be the same as winning a division round in the playoffs.

Only an Eagles fan.....

How old were you in 1947? Did they already invent plastic by then or were the helmets still made out of leather?
'47...that puts him at 77. (chuckling)
 

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Please email to Jerry. So he can get a good look at what he's accomplished.
Weren't the seventies great!
 

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Jimmy would have dealt with the Cowboys salary cap and free agency much better than Jones because he knew who was dispensable and indispensable.

Jimmy would never sign Deion to the kind of contract that forced the mass exodus of a half dozen other players.

Jimmy wasn't sentimental, he wouldn't have written contracts based on previous achievements.

It is difficult to keep teams together but why should that be the focus? You want the team to continue winning.

Those that want to undervalue Jimmy's contribution and abilities to build a team always want to point to the time he spent with the Dolphins. They want to forget that Jimmy was greatly handicapped by having to wait a year before taking over the team because Shula didn't want to retire.

In addition, he wanted to replace Marino but the owner refused to allow it. Therefore, Jimmy had to wait before he could begin to develop his own QB while enduring Marino's cap hit at age 36 to 38.
That picture misses the number of misses on players and team strength in numbers of player brought in to water roster growths. The number of acquired personnel to over come the large number of failures is relevant.

Troy Aikman almost never was the cornerstone he was because that same Jimmy Johnson first worked pro-active Jimmy loyalty under him before just talent. He did that with coaches and with players.

Not just indicating non-sentimental is not the full motive. He was fully invested in his own empowerment, and that was political in nature as was the team effects.

There can be little doubt as his coaching ability to observe game movements and momentums. Also, he was able to mold the team into his own view of desired directions and response to his directed scheme. As to end results, he was very successful with what Jerry was able to get him. That was an era when money bought a roster and Jerry was able to do just that.

When cap and free agency entered the picture, change of franchises did also. One had to blow entire rosters for change, or slowly do that through the draft.

Jerry was committed to the concept to attempting to win each and every season. The transition in cap management and wisely attacking the scouting departments were slowly improved and that contribution has become a strength.

Jimmy's direct knowledge of talent coming from college ranks lasted only about four seasons...then he again became dependent upon internal resources for evaluations. Player evaluations in the NFL have improved quite a bit over the past ten years. There are still many gambles that present problems. Here, Dallas at present is very good.

Without that very top level imput of multiple developmental numbers, that is more the cause for a lower achievement level once in Miami.

As to development under a coach...the current status of McCarthy shows a strong ability there as well. Here and now, and with two previous 12 win seasons...very very few other teams can support that level of what is currently 3rd that level of success.

As to Deion and even Haley, they came when the money was available and before the trial and error phase of cap management into the current picture. Deion was very needed as to team strength and worth the cost in the era was dominant in.

Is one going to be a 'toughie' as was applied to Jimmy's description and write him off now as being too expensive? I doubt very seriously that is even on the table for consideration on team stability and projection. Oh, there is much development at work, here and now...
 

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That picture misses the number of misses on players and team strength in numbers of player brought in to water roster growths. The number of acquired personnel to over come the large number of failures is relevant.

Troy Aikman almost never was the cornerstone he was because that same Jimmy Johnson first worked pro-active Jimmy loyalty under him before just talent. He did that with coaches and with players.

Not just indicating non-sentimental is not the full motive. He was fully invested in his own empowerment, and that was political in nature as was the team effects.

There can be little doubt as his coaching ability to observe game movements and momentums. Also, he was able to mold the team into his own view of desired directions and response to his directed scheme. As to end results, he was very successful with what Jerry was able to get him. That was an era when money bought a roster and Jerry was able to do just that.

When cap and free agency entered the picture, change of franchises did also. One had to blow entire rosters for change, or slowly do that through the draft.

Jerry was committed to the concept to attempting to win each and every season. The transition in cap management and wisely attacking the scouting departments were slowly improved and that contribution has become a strength.

Jimmy's direct knowledge of talent coming from college ranks lasted only about four seasons...then he again became dependent upon internal resources for evaluations. Player evaluations in the NFL have improved quite a bit over the past ten years. There are still many gambles that present problems. Here, Dallas at present is very good.

Without that very top level imput of multiple developmental numbers, that is more the cause for a lower achievement level once in Miami.

As to development under a coach...the current status of McCarthy shows a strong ability there as well. Here and now, and with two previous 12 win seasons...very very few other teams can support that level of what is currently 3rd that level of success.

As to Deion and even Haley, they came when the money was available and before the trial and error phase of cap management into the current picture. Deion was very needed as to team strength and worth the cost in the era was dominant in.

Is one going to be a 'toughie' as was applied to Jimmy's description and write him off now as being too expensive? I doubt very seriously that is even on the table for consideration on team stability and projection. Oh, there is much development at work, here and now...
The bottom statement was to apply a similar value for function to today's Parsons team value which will be a league wide high value amount as well.
 

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Jimmy would have dealt with the Cowboys salary cap and free agency much better than Jones because he knew who was dispensable and indispensable.

Jimmy would never sign Deion to the kind of contract that forced the mass exodus of a half dozen other players.

Jimmy wasn't sentimental, he wouldn't have written contracts based on previous achievements.

It is difficult to keep teams together but why should that be the focus? You want the team to continue winning.

Those that want to undervalue Jimmy's contribution and abilities to build a team always want to point to the time he spent with the Dolphins. They want to forget that Jimmy was greatly handicapped by having to wait a year before taking over the team because Shula didn't want to retire.

In addition, he wanted to replace Marino but the owner refused to allow it. Therefore, Jimmy had to wait before he could begin to develop his own QB while enduring Marino's cap hit at age 36 to 38.
The salary cap was new and everyone struggled dealing with it in the beginning. Jimmy had nothing to do with the cap and signing contracts. Jerry handled the business side. He was the one who was going to have to figure out how to keep players under the cap. Jimmy was going to want to get his hands on any great player he could, so to say he wouldn’t have wanted to add Deion Sanders for the amount of money he received isn’t correct. Had the Cowboys not signed Deion they likely wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl in 95. Just taking him away from San Francisco gave us a big advantage.
 

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Yes, Jerry had an exceptional decade thirty years ago. Unfortunately, the NFL isn’t static. It changes, and eventually passes everyone, even the best minds. Ask Landry about that.
 

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The Cowboys have been playing the dirty birds over 60 years. In those nearly 7 decades, the two teams have played each other 128 times with the Cowboys holding the edge all time with a 73-55 advantage.

Here’s a look at the rivalry by decade. The records here include playoff games.
  • 1960s: 10-9 (Eagles)
  • 1970s: 17-3 (Cowboys)
  • 1980s: 10-10 (Tie)
  • 1990s: 14-8 (Cowboys)
  • 2000-2009: 13-8 (Eagles)
  • 2010-19: 11-9 (Cowboys)
  • 2020-present: 4-2 (Cowboys)
The two teams have met 4 times in the playoffs and the Cowboys lead that 3-1.

Here is a comparison of overall playoff wins of both teams by decade:
  • 1960s: Cowboys (1), eagles (1)
  • 1970s: Cowboys (14), eagles (1)
  • 1980s: Cowboys (5), eagles (2)
  • 1990s: Cowboys (12) eagles (2)
  • 2000-09: Cowboys (1) eagles (10)
  • 2010-19: Cowboys (2) eagles (4)
  • 2020- present: Cowboys (1) eagles (2)
Since 2000, the eagles have won 16 playoff games, won 3 conference championship games and 1 SB.
Since 2000, the Cowboys have won 4 wild card games.
Since 2000, the record is 24-22 in favor of the Eagless.
 

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The Jerry years :(
I think it's hilarious you try to block out 1989 to 2000 just for your own nitpicking cherry picking whining little fan base who don't like Jerry the Jerry year started in 1989 the Super bowl wins are the Jerry years I don't wanna hear about Jimmy Johnson Jimmy Johnson would have never had a job in the NFL had it not been for him being hired by his boss and current owner Jerry Jones...

And also I mean is it Prescott seven and three against the Eagles I think we're three and oh in the last three games we scored like 40,41 and 50 points isn't that the Jerry years we're beating the Eagles at the same pace our counterparts beat them before Jerry bought the team just like the Jimmy years with Jerry I don't really get all the ridiculous responses.. And at this point also jalen hurts has not beat Prescott so we gonna call these the Prescott years literally demolishing the Eagles in most games sure they've been a little better in the playoffs but we're just talking about records we beat them plenty this isn't the 49ers where we got a monkey on our back you can't figure out why we can't beat them we beat the Eagles a lot...
 

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The salary cap was new and everyone struggled dealing with it in the beginning. Jimmy had nothing to do with the cap and signing contracts. Jerry handled the business side. He was the one who was going to have to figure out how to keep players under the cap. Jimmy was going to want to get his hands on any great player he could, so to say he wouldn’t have wanted to add Deion Sanders for the amount of money he received isn’t correct. Had the Cowboys not signed Deion they likely wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl in 95. Just taking him away from San Francisco gave us a big advantage.
If Jimmy were still the coach they could have won the Super Bowl without Deion.....and the year before when Deion was a 49er. I say he could have under the same circumstances Switzer was placed in.
 

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You mean 3 SB wins in 4 years included, 4 straight NFCCG's.
I think they still believe Jimmy Johnson somehow owned this team ran the whole thing never had to go to Jerry and do things together that would be a complete and total falsehood.... Seriously people keep blocking out Jerry as if he wasn't part of this team there would be no Jimmy Johnson the chicken or the egg the egg or the chicken doesn't matter what came first in this case Jerry bought the team Jerry went to his buddy friend college teammate and asked him to be the coach therefore everything that Jimmy did was because of Jerry that means everything that's happened since 1989 is all part of Jerry's ownership and that's all that matters..., Jimmy Johnson did nothing with the Miami Dolphins he didn't get hired as some super GM he didn't do anything so together Jimmy and Jerry built the dynasty but Jerry still gets as much credit I don't wanna hear any whining complaining... It's still just laughable how fans try to block that out as if those were the Jimmy years no those were the Jerry years they've all been the Jerry year since 1989 up until now they're the Jerry years....
 

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If Jimmy were still the coach they could have won the Super Bowl without Deion.....and the year before when Deion was a 49er. I say he could have under the same circumstances Switzer was placed in.
it’s easy to say they could’ve won a lot of games had Jimmy stayed. We’ll never know.
 

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If Jimmy were still the coach they could have won the Super Bowl without Deion.....and the year before when Deion was a 49er. I say he could have under the same circumstances Switzer was placed in.
Could have should have no the possibility was there but in my opinion Switzer did exactly what Jimmy would have done no different and Jimmy would have left after that anyway sometime before 1999 Jimmy would have retired nothing else better would have happened whether he was here or gone because we took what little was left of Jimmys team and won what we could...

I don't think he would have won anything else... The players were all aging they were injured and all that stuff that KJ said is all true the team was being split apart they weren't as dominant and Switzer got us to a championship game in which the players blew that game not Jerry not Switzer and then the next year won a Super Bowl then the team pretty much started falling apart...

there's no way Jimmy was staying, Jimmy Johnson was much like Parcells they do not stay around very long they like a new challenge, he was moving on anyway...

The whole breakup thing might have ruined a further dynasty, and five more Super Bowl nonsense, its just that, it's nonsense he was not staying around like Bill Belichick has with New England he was going to leave no matter what.

I guarantee sometime between 1997 and the year 2000 he would have left more than likely probably in 1997 he still would have went to another team still with only probably one more Super Bowl...

I mean I like how you use that word could have no that is no guarantee there is no guarantees whatsoever if Jimmy stayed here there was going to be this really long line of more strings of back-to-back Super Bowls... There isn't a damn shred of evidence and I'm sick of hearing it.
 

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I think it's hilarious you try to block out 1989 to 2000 just for your own nitpicking cherry picking whining little fan base who don't like Jerry the Jerry year started in 1989 the Super bowl wins are the Jerry years I don't wanna hear about Jimmy Johnson Jimmy Johnson would have never had a job in the NFL had it not been for him being hired by his boss and current owner Jerry Jones...

And also I mean is it Prescott seven and three against the Eagles I think we're three and oh in the last three games we scored like 40,41 and 50 points isn't that the Jerry years we're beating the Eagles at the same pace our counterparts beat them before Jerry bought the team just like the Jimmy years with Jerry I don't really get all the ridiculous responses.. And at this point also jalen hurts has not beat Prescott so we gonna call these the Prescott years literally demolishing the Eagles in most games sure they've been a little better in the playoffs but we're just talking about records we beat them plenty this isn't the 49ers where we got a monkey on our back you can't figure out why we can't beat them we beat the Eagles a lot...
Blue as I stated earlier, I believe we should always include all the years with Jerry to give us a true, balanced picture. Jerry has owned the team 4 decades. 1989-2023, so 44 years to be exact.

In those 4+ decades, we’ve had one good playoff decade where we won 12 playoff games, 3 NFC championships and 3 SBs. In the other 3.5 decades, we’ve won 4 wild card games. So JJ has given us 1 good decade out of 4+. That’s fair isn’t it?

EDIT- I was wrong. It’s 34 years, not 44. So still one good decade out of 3.5 decades.
 
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Blue as I stated earlier, I believe we should always include all the years with Jerry to give us a true, balanced picture. Jerry has owned the team 4 decades. 1989-2023, so 44 years to be exact.

In those 4+ decades, we’ve had one good playoff decade where we won 12 playoff games, 3 NFC championships and 3 SBs. In the other 3.5 decades, we’ve won 4 wild card games. So JJ has given us 1 good decade out of 4+. That’s fair isn’t it?
First of all your math is way off 2023-1989 is not 44 you're adding an entire decade on to Jerry's resume and then calling it for decades and it's not it's three just over 3...

umm its 34 this years not over so 33.5 stop adding 10 more years LOL

so please stop it everyone wants to do this no it's not fair we're just gonna talk about it from 1989 to present Jerry has whatever record that is and the three lombardis belong to the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones tenure period end of story that's the only fair way to look at it not breaking it down for when Jimmy was here and when Jimmy wasn't here it's a bunch of malarkey and you are one of the worst offenders and trying to make it different it's not different it's always been Jerry's team from day one he did all the hiring which included Jimmy Johnson he made a lot of decisions while Jimmy was here he made sure there was money and he made sure the team was secure something that the team was a little bit in money hell when he bought the team it was not in good shape it's together they created a dynasty when Jimmy left he left that dynasty the team still jerries and has always been jerries until further notice...

So if you start getting your math correct and stop trying to add in as if it's been a whole another decade of losing which is insane you can't do math but only insane if I didn't realize you're such a hater you're trying to make it seem longer everyone's saying it's 27 years since we won a championship that would be 1996 so now you gotta add 89 to 96 that's seven years 27 + 7 is what?34
 

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Blue as I stated earlier, I believe we should always include all the years with Jerry to give us a true, balanced picture. Jerry has owned the team 4 decades. 1989-2023, so 44 years to be exact.

In those 4+ decades, we’ve had one good playoff decade where we won 12 playoff games, 3 NFC championships and 3 SBs. In the other 3.5 decades, we’ve won 4 wild card games. So JJ has given us 1 good decade out of 4+. That’s fair isn’t it?
My math says 34 years.
 
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