The Cowboys have a Personality Problem

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Note to jerry...... Your team needs a strength and personality coach.
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Swagger comes with winning zordon . Until we do it's all idle talk. Besides we got rid of that no good non leader d ware. What more could you possibly want.

Chicken or egg? ???
 

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Nice!

Some fans want the Cowboy players to say stuff like..."We be the &%%$$ Cowboys! You want to come to Dallas, we will &$#@@$ kick your &^$...so don't come at me like that! I'm a ^^$%&) Cowboy and we don't take that *&$%^ from anybody! We be tough and )(&%!" So, don't talk to me muta^%$*!"

lol Yeah, that will intimidate other teams or the media! Talk is cheap...talk to much and you get your *** kicked!

They would be the same people calling them "thugs" if they did that.
 

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I'd like to see a little more fire out of our guys. But talking smack or being confrontational in the media in July isn't what I'm talking about. I like the passion dez shows for the game. You can tell he plays for more than just a paycheck.
 

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"Checks them." Lol. He was doing the same sophomoric nonsense they do. And, no, I don't respect clown acts.

Fight fire with fire. Sometimes that's the only way you can check a bully. Murray didn't even say anything to defend Romo when he was being belittled in his face. Reminds me when nobody said or did anything about the Sean Lee/Golden Tate hit until AFTER the game was over. The team has a completely different mentality than that pack of hyenas in Seattle.
 

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Fight fire with fire. Sometimes that's the only way you can check a bully. Murray didn't even say anything to defend Romo when he was being belittled in his face. Reminds me when nobody said or did anything about the Sean Lee/Golden Tate hit until AFTER the game was over. The team has a completely different mentality than that pack of hyenas in Seattle.

That wasn't fire, though. It's just acting like a jerk in order to proffit from the attention. Stooping to that level would have been an embarrassment. I'm glad he didn't.

Don't see any similarities between that and anything in a game, either, frankly. Big hits are big hits.
 

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So one player is on first take and isn't a loud mouth, and now the entire team has a personality problem, and it's Garrett's and Jerry's fault...well, alrighty then.....
if he was like Richard Sherman you would complain he needs to shut up....
1 freaking week until camp starts.....can't get here soon enough, but I'm sure it will be nit picked to the negative side by the usual suspects before we get any true evaluations....

I don't judge a player by what he says in an interview but how he plays on the field. I'm not worried about Demarco's play or his personality. The game is won on the field.
 

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It's not just one player or one interview. This is a trend I've noticed for awhile with this team. We see it manifest itself when the Giants bully us on and off the field, when Lee is blindsided and the team captain waits till after the game to speak up, we see it when Dez's passion is muzzled and everytime Garrett coaches not to lose.


That's an issue with the fans then. Give me my cocky Cowboys back from the old days. Listen to the Buffalo Bills players interviews from yesterday when they arrived from training camp, you don't have to walk it before you talk it. They are a confident group and determined to stop the losing. They're players were not afraid to express how sick they are of losing and how they want to win for the city and their late owner. You never hear that type of passion from our players. Did you not hear the pc answers Demarco gave SAS? Why not at least express how sick and tired you are of losing. I don't want to sound like I'm picking on Demarco, I think this is a big problem with the whole team.

Dallas does not have a personality problem they have an execution problem. You guys talk this crap but fact is you don't get to this level without a lot of leadership qualities and desire a small percentage will ever make it to this level. Player personality come in all shapes and sizes per say not every Cowboy player in the 90's was loud talkers and on this team there are guys who are loud and boast and guys who go about their business with a lot less talk. Talking is not going to win, players going out knowing their assignments and then executing those assignments will win games.
 

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Dallas does not have a personality problem they have an execution problem. You guys talk this crap but fact is you don't get to this level without a lot of leadership qualities and desire a small percentage will ever make it to this level. Player personality come in all shapes and sizes per say not every Cowboy player in the 90's was loud talkers and on this team there are guys who are loud and boast and guys who go about their business with a lot less talk. Talking is not going to win, players going out knowing their assignments and then executing those assignments will win games.

Exactly.
Jimmy Johnson's Miami teams were talkers....so his Cowboys team were talkers
Jason Garret is not a talker, so, his players aren't talkers
Maybe they take on the personna of their coach somewhat, which tells me , they back their coach, and are behind them 100%

But as you said, it still comes down to execution.
 

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Exactly.
Jimmy Johnson's Miami teams were talkers....so his Cowboys team were talkers
Jason Garret is not a talker, so, his players aren't talkers
Maybe they take on the personna of their coach somewhat, which tells me , they back their coach, and are behind them 100%

But as you said, it still comes down to execution.

Dez is and Murray showed a lot of emotions but again it is not a personality issue bottom line is guys knowing exactly what their assignments are and executing those assignments to the letter. You can talk all day but if you bust assignments and fail to execute your assignment all the talk in the world will not cover that up.
 

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That was a good and valid observation. And your presentation of the event was a good one.

Now, I'm not trying to take away from what you saw or jumping tracks, as your OP was good...
but this is my point of comparison:

I was an instructor at the US Army's Armor center, when it was at Fort Knox, Ky and was the greatest Armor School in the world. That was when it was a one stop entrance center for newly entrance soldiers. I was an instructor for entry level all the way up to Officers receiving their Branch level training in their beginning levels of their professional Service careers. We graded and saw to the level of standards before passing along them into mainstream Service life.

Think when we saw the entry level soldier, whether officer or enlisted, we felt sorry for them? We observed freshly lopped hair lying on the barber's floor and a lot of awkward, misdirected, physical actions and even worse methods of processing information without an observing and strong analytical process of categorizing immediately and responding in a unified and directional manner.

Think that we were afraid to project those very groups into roles, within a 6 month period, in roles with a new unit and experiencing all on the line in a place like Afghanistan? No, that was our mission...to take these boys to war, win, and bring them back alive.

Well, that is a similar task of this group of coaches, in a very hostile and aggressive sport. To take their troops, players, into games, win, and bring them out of those on carpet times ready to resume on another battlefield/game.

I am not the least bit anxious to watch our Cowboys gain their own personalities, because this fan knows they are competitive and have proven they have heart...they don't give up.

The moto for the 3rd ACR, was forged in fire and came out steel. It's greeting was It Shall Be Done. But this unit has had to earn it's metal in a series of separated occasions with diference in engagements and enemies...but on each occasion, and with different sets of leaders, they earned their metal.

This group of players are no different, but I'm not going to grow anxious watching them come together. They have good leadership, are an American athlete, and they will succeed...because that's what Dallas Cowboys do.
All one has to do is watch NFL Year in Review last night. It was a recap of the 2013 Cowboys: "Close Calls, Comebacks and Courage". As Romo would say: it was all about football baby. There is no doubt our guys are passionate about the game. It was great. Must see TV. Dez was the star of the show. From sideline to end zone.
 

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Dez is and Murray showed a lot of emotions but again it is not a personality issue bottom line is guys knowing exactly what their assignments are and executing those assignments to the letter. You can talk all day but if you bust assignments and fail to execute your assignment all the talk in the world will not cover that up.

Five losses. By eight points total. With a bottom-ranked defense.

We need a little more talent, and we need to execute better defensively. Personality has little to do with anything.
 

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Five losses. By eight points total. With a bottom-ranked defense.

We need a little more talent, and we need to execute better defensively. Personality has little to do with anything.

I agree. Where I may differ from some is some of the talent such as Wilcox is still an unknown. I know everyone would love for every rookie to come in a play this game to a high level but more times than not that does not happen and it takes some time for guys to play to their ability at this level. I also put much of this on the coaches after all it is up to them to make sure these guys are getting the information and understanding what they are trying to do. As for Personality that is not something I think is an issue. Winning breeds confidence
 

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All one has to do is watch NFL Year in Review last night. It was a recap of the 2013 Cowboys: "Close Calls, Comebacks and Courage". As Romo would say: it was all about football baby. There is no doubt our guys are passionate about the game. It was great. Must see TV. Dez was the star of the show. From sideline to end zone.

These are always a good share...
 

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One of the main differences between the Seahawks and the Cowboys was on full display for everyone to see on FirstTake yesterday.

This is the second time Demarco Murray has been on FirstTake. The first time he was on a year ago, they ridiculed him for being too P.C. and giving too many cookie cutter answers to their questions. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because it might have been the first time he was in that environment. Now he comes on for a second time yesterday and the interview was embarrassing. Dude let SAS clown his QB with no rebuttal from Demarco, all of his answers about the team's 8-8 struggles were straight out of Garrett's C-3PO handbook, and he seemed rattled by the grilling he was taking. At one point he tries to change the subject to the corporate sponsor that sent him there to promote their product/event. Overall, he came off corporate, rehearsed, unconfident, and detached from what they were asking him. I couldn't help but think I was watching a microcosm of the country club the Dallas Cowboys have become.

Immediately after Demarco was interviewed, Seahawks LB Bobby Wagner came on (remember this was the linebacker that Jerry Jones claimed the Cowboys were planning on taking in the 2nd round if they had not traded that pick away to draft Claiborne). His demeanor was night and day from Demarco's. Bobby was direct with his answers, extremely confident, and borderlining on cocky. He showed off that Seahawks' brashness a couple of times when he made the claim that Broncos receivers were scared to go over the middle against them in the Super Bowl and that Jimmy Graham was lucky to get his new contract before playing the Seahawks D because they would make him look pedestrian.

The Cowboys used to have players who talked, walked, acted like this in the 90s. I don't see them anymore. Where have they gone? Dez would flourish in that Seahawks environment but instead he gets muzzled here, why? X' and O's are important but so is player/team confidence so are things like team chemistry as Wagner mentioned in the interview. Cowboys lack it, they lack the personality of a winner, unfortunately I don't know where it's going to come from within this organization. Ideally it would come from the head coach and trickle down to the players but Todd Archer said in Q&A last week that the coaching staff lets their player's weakness scare them from using them. Is anybody surprised by this opinion from one of the top Cowboys beat writers? How many times have we begged for the offense to enforce their will on teams and how many times has prevent defense killed us at the end of halfs and games? This team, from the top down, needs a personality transplant more than anything. Improve the defense and oline all you want, until this happens we'll never win the big games.







Wait, X's and O's are important here? I thought it was all about execution... I'm confused.
 

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Poor Wade... everything was blamed on his personality...

I don't think Wade personality played a part I think losing the team as he did in 2010 did him in, Dallas went into a tail spin and he never could get them turned around. Much was the same reason for Kubiak in Houston, they went into a tail spin and he lost the team and could not get them back on track. I hated to see him fired but once Dallas stated off with a 1-7 season including 5 in a row and a lack luster blowout vs GB Dallas management did what a lot of teams would have done and that is fire the HC.
 

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Poor Wade... everything was blamed on his personality...

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I don't think Wade personality played a part I think losing the team as he did in 2010 did him in, Dallas went into a tail spin and he never could get them turned around. Much was the same reason for Kubiak in Houston, they went into a tail spin and he lost the team and could not get them back on track. I hated to see him fired but once Dallas stated off with a 1-7 season including 5 in a row and a lack luster blowout vs GB Dallas management did what a lot of teams would have done and that is fire the HC.

I think much of Wade's problem actually was his personality. But that's so obviously not the same issue as the OP's team personality assertion that I thought it didn't really need to be mentioned. Not even sure what @khiladi was getting at bringing it up, honestly.
 

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I think much of Wade's problem actually was his personality. But that's so obviously not the same issue as the OP's team personality assertion that I thought it didn't really need to be mentioned. Not even sure what @khiladi was getting at bringing it up, honestly.

From the OP:

Cowboys lack it, they lack the personality of a winner, unfortunately I don't know where it's going to come from within this organization. Ideally it would come from the head coach and trickle down to the players but Todd Archer said in Q&A last week that the coaching staff lets their player's weakness scare them from using them. Is anybody surprised by this opinion from one of the top Cowboys beat writers? How many times have we begged for the offense to enforce their will on teams and how many times has prevent defense killed us at the end of halfs and games? This team, from the top down, needs a personality transplant more than anything.
 
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