The Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon

I see a Myles Garret situation happening. Micah signs a 4 or 5 year monster contract extension, performs great and the team goes 9 and 8 for 2 straight years and misses out on the playoffs. Dak performs OK, but no near what he is being paid to perform.

Micah sees more then half his career is over and decides he really wants a ring because he is stinking rich, making money on podcasts etc etc. However his career in not complete without a ring. He thus announces he wants to be traded with 2 years left on his contract.

What am I missing folks? These tea leaves are super easy to read. The Jerry Jones game plan never changes. About as creative as a slice of stale Wonder bread.
Yea, he's fine being on America's Team during a period of 12-5 and at least he's communicated a view on the formation of a competitive team. But as with everything, Jerry is the problem as he's incapable of delivering on his side and Micah would definitely be looking for a trade mid contract.
 
I imagine the Micah decision has already been made. Honestly if they really wanted to move on from the guy last offseason was the time to do it. A premier pass rusher that still had a cheap year of rookie control in addition to his 5th year option? He would have brought back QB value on the trade market. This year where a team is going to have to give up something in a trade and likely make him the top defensive player of all time? Its a harder trade pitch unless you're willing to take less back in the trade.
And replace Micah with who?
 
I cannot wait til Luka comes back to Dallas.

He’s going to get his name chanted all night and 90% of the fanbase will hope the lakers and Luka wins. Only people who will be rooting against him are the LeBron is better than Mj and Dak is a good qb type. But that’s for an entirely different reason we all know about.
 
And you trade parsons for a haul. He’s a one trick pony and a damned good one trick pony.
 
Well we all know what could happen. Just your suggestion is a no go on so many levels. The problem with trading him now would probably be that the most eager teams would be the ones in win-now mode. By the very nature they'd be back-end of the draft, which will diminish the return. Then again, if we're trading Micah, we're mailing in 2025 (due to his very influence on the rest of the front 7 and opponents Offense) and could probably afford to spread out the draft capital (not all in the thin 2025 with its thin 1st Rd).
I disagree. His trade value is highest right now as he is under contract for another year. An extension would lower his base salary which is currently at 24 million. When you look at teams with cap space not in the division, patriots, raiders, chargers, cardinals, vikings, bears, all have 58 million plus. All could potentially pay Micah without blinking an eye, of course not all would, but there are plenty of teams that could easily trade and sign him is the point.
 
I disagree. His trade value is highest right now as he is under contract for another year. An extension would lower his base salary which is currently at 24 million. When you look at teams with cap space not in the division, patriots, raiders, chargers, cardinals, vikings, bears, all have 58 million plus. All could potentially pay Micah without blinking an eye, of course not all would, but there are plenty of teams that could easily trade and sign him is the point.
I never said anything about his value. My argument was against you picking the Jags, all I pointed out to you was that Micah probably wouldn't sign a contract, as he would probably wait for FA rather than get stuck in Jacksonville.
I'd also imagine he'd want to sign with a team that has some semblence of competing.
Btw - the factor it extending a player isn't available CAP space in YR1.
 
you do realize this isn't the 70s and the 80s where players represented themselves or most of the representation were provided by the teams or leagues and they didn't have a clue about this, but this is the new day and age the salary cap teams do not have the upper hand anymore.​

I'm saying this because you think that these players and agents don't know what you're trying to do they understand that these other players are about to get paid and you all keep thinking Jerry's the one holding these deals up you really think Prescott back way before he got his first deal you know when he snapped his ankle off and still got paid everyone said we should have paid him the year before you don't think that his agent would have smelled this coming and said no way there's no way we're taking less money and a long deal they would have demanded a three-year deal and I've said this before and that means we'd be in the same spot now because the deal would be shorter the money would get bigger and boom we're right back where we started.

A good example is lamb when they did lamb's deal he was not going to sign it until he got exactly what he wanted and that was looking to the future not the now these agents and players are not looking at well if we sign a deal right now for less we're set for life, no they're set for life already... that's an old mantra, they don't listen to that garbage anymore they can just up and leave and get paid somewhere else the same amount of money...

That's a fact they were waiting on Jefferson or chase to get paid they wanted to see where the new market was they were not going to budget in the winner of all this is going to be chase because he never budged you don't think they tried to get a deal done in Cincinnati to sign him before he got to that point yes they did the agents and the players said hell no they have representation to make sure they're not undervalued or underpaid..​

There are no secrets anymore this is literally now you have to work on equal leverage, there is no leverage on either side, and when you have proper representation, they're going to tell you what your worth is five years from now... they're not looking at today's value, they're not going to sign a low ball of money and have to go with the other things you put language in the contract like more years void years all that nonsense for the salary cap these players are not stupid you're acting like these players I'm just gonna say yes and that Jerry somehow behind the scenes haven't had any conversation about getting a deal done early and it was rejected just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen...

So, this is this isn't just to you this is to the original post and everybody reading this stop blaming Jerry for these deals that don't get signed until too late they are definitely not trying to pay more they are not trying to place themselves out of the market by resetting the market... that is not the goal, they are also not stupid Jerry Jones is a businessman right you don't like him as a GM or a player personnel genius but he is a businessman.. you think he's purposely trying to make himself pay more for these deals why does it have something to do with the other two parts of the parties the player and the agents are controlling this.​

So, let's get this straight, stop blaming Jerry and the Jones family acting as if they didn't know any better and they're doing this on purpose no they're not doing it on purpose they're moving parts to this

  1. you have the players contract coming up and they know where they sit in value to your team and what type of player they've been, so you have the player involved he has an ego as well..
  2. You have the agent who is hired to make sure he keeps the player happy and filled his pockets with a bigger percentage the bigger the contract is or to get a shorter contract if you're gonna pay a little less and then he's back at the table when the markets exploded even more sooner so he gets more money again
  3. then you have the other players at the same position in similar value of where they're at according to the league and their contracts are coming up therefore they're factoring into this as well everybody's watching each other to see who will reset the market 1st that way they can get more value if they wait on that player and that is exactly what happened with lamb that's what they were waiting on they got what they wanted at least the Cowboys didn't have to pay more than Jefferson but jamar chase is sitting in the driver seat now I think he nearly got the Triple Crown now the Bengals must be stupid they must have a worse Jerry Jones on their team how can you let a guy like that auntie Higgins get to this spot now? And yes we need examples around here because we blame Jerry for everything well Jerry's not on all these teams and hell Jerry didn't trade Luka yes i had to put that pot shot in there...
  4. And now you have the team and yes the team has to keep their business afloat by getting the best deal you can but at the same time they can't cave and give everything up front to a player if the demands behind the scenes that we have nothing to do with we have no knowledge of because not everything is reported you think everything is reported because somehow this is a public entity and that you're like part of the process like your shareholder or something no you don't know what's going on behind the scenes none of us ever do you only know what they want us to know... And I'm telling you my gut says the Jones family knows business and they've tried to get some of these deals done sooner and you know how I know this because we've seen it go smoothly with more than a handful of players we never heard about the Trayvon diggs deal it just happened the Terrence steel deal it just happened we've seen it with jalen Smith we've seen it with other players it literally just gets done we wake up one day and say hey we just resigned this guy it's happened with will mcclay everybody thought maybe he would jump ship because he saw this disaster yeah he's been with this team for 20 seasons now in different capacities and yet he's chosen to stay that deal didn't take long to get done and he's well paid I also want to cite the example of everyone called Jerry cheap he's not paying his coaches the cheapest salaries we've already proven that I've already did the research it's usually middle of the pack but when it came to Dan Quinn did that take long we kept Dan Quinn here 2 years longer by paying him head coaching money which by the way I always paid him the same amount of money he's making now as a head coach but he was a an assistant but Oh no Jerry's cheap that must be the narrative we have to stick to because fans hate him and I get it I know why you hate him but let's stop acting like this is all easily taken care of by just knowing and offering these players early deals. They wish it was that simple it's far from simple there's too many moving parts nobody's going to take a deal that doesn't fit the above conditions.
I realize that as other players are paid x amount that the next players coming up for contracts look to surpass the going market rate. TJ Watts currently making an avg 28 mill per season will be what Parsons agent will look at. Should Dallas wait that market value goes up and that is what Parsons agent will look at. Each year the market value increases, so get it done now why wait until the market value is higher?
 
Micah will make $24M on his 5th year option and if franchised in 2026 somewhere around $28M. He could easily just play this out and be a free agent in 2027.
 
I disagree. His trade value is highest right now as he is under contract for another year. An extension would lower his base salary which is currently at 24 million. When you look at teams with cap space not in the division, patriots, raiders, chargers, cardinals, vikings, bears, all have 58 million plus. All could potentially pay Micah without blinking an eye, of course not all would, but there are plenty of teams that could easily trade and sign him is the point.
That’s the approach Micah’s agent is going to take with Jerry. You can sign my client for $30+ million per season and your cap posture will be better. Jerry will be like “uh…OK.”
 
And replace Micah with who?
I think thats the wrong question. You wont replace Micah with any one person. The advantage of getting a ransom for Micah is if you can get 3+ premium draft picks plus free up $40M per year which is likely 2-4 players itself. You're looking at a 5+ player for Micah answer which even if you miss on one or two guys you have a chance to outweigh Micahs production.

To me that is why I would think a year ago would have been the ideal to trade him as in theory his value should have been higher. This year I think it might be trickier to get the value for him you need to trade him.
 
Jerry will clown until the final second and we lose the money we could of saved signing him early. Then it's because of Dak-again :facepalm: Versus clueless GM who could of got the contract for cheaper both times and save d cap money.
 
I think thats the wrong question. You wont replace Micah with any one person. The advantage of getting a ransom for Micah is if you can get 3+ premium draft picks plus free up $40M per year which is likely 2-4 players itself. You're looking at a 5+ player for Micah answer which even if you miss on one or two guys you have a chance to outweigh Micahs production.

To me that is why I would think a year ago would have been the ideal to trade him as in theory his value should have been higher. This year I think it might be trickier to get the value for him you need to trade him.
No team is paying a ransom for Micah Parsons. No team would give up the opportunity is add multiple players on cost controlled contracts for a pass rusher that costs over $30 million per season. It is not going to happen. It’s a fantasy. The same reason the Cowboys would like a ransom of draft picks and/or players for Micah is why teams won’t consider it.

The Cowboys need to sign him. They will never get in return the value he provides.
 
No team is paying a ransom for Micah Parsons. No team would give up the opportunity is add multiple players on cost controlled contracts for a pass rusher that costs over $30 million per season. It is not going to happen. It’s a fantasy. The same reason the Cowboys would like a ransom of draft picks and/or players for Micah is why teams won’t consider it.

The Cowboys need to sign him. They will never get in return the value he provides.
Well we are likely to find out pretty soon based on what type of return Myles Garrett nets Cleveland.
 
Given the news of Myles Garrett wanting a trade breaking today, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon. I learned on the Pat McAfee Show today that Garrett has not got much guaranteed money on his contract remaining. If the Browns do not trade him, he will probably be extended to a massive deal. If he gets traded, he's going to command a lot of money.

This puts the ball in Jerry's court with Parsons. I think that the Cowboys need to decide what they want to do with Micah Parsons. If we are going to extend Parsons, then we need to do that ASAP while it's cheaper to do so. I don't want to go through another offseason where they are waiting until training camp to extend him like Dak and Lamb. The sooner we do it, the more money we can save. Additionally, the language of the contract could free up cap space, so that's another good reason to do it soon.

Alternatively, if they want to move on from Parsons, they should be floating Parsons out for trade deals before the draft so we can get as many picks as possible. Like Garrett with the Browns if they trade him, we would likely get a haul for Parsons.

In either case, the Joneses need to make a decision soon on Parsons. Either option is correct as far as I am concerned, provides that it's done before the draft and is done before something is done with Garrett.
your right, but you cant count on the jones boys to do anything early or on time.
Jerry likes to drag it out for news crap. Keep people talking.

I would try to trade parsons, just to see what is offered, you dont have to take it.
Also talk to myles see what he wants moneywise. How healthy is he.

Imagine having myles on one side parsons on the other side ! lol
 
Well we are likely to find out pretty soon based on what type of return Myles Garrett nets Cleveland.
Yes. And be able to automatically eliminate all the teams that didn’t try to trade for Garrett plus the team that traded for him as being interested in Micah, leaving only teams that wouldn’t give up enough to get Garrett as potential trade partners for him. Not going to happen.
 
Yes. And be able to automatically eliminate all the teams that didn’t try to trade for Garrett plus the team that traded for him as being interested in Micah, leaving only teams that wouldn’t give up enough to get Garrett as potential trade partners for him. Not going to happen.
You may be right or you may be wrong. I guess my point is that if Garrett goes for a large haul then we will know that these types of deals are still possible around the league today.
 
your right, but you cant count on the jones boys to do anything early or on time.
Jerry likes to drag it out for news crap. Keep people talking.

I would try to trade parsons, just to see what is offered, you dont have to take it.
Also talk to myles see what he wants moneywise. How healthy is he.

Imagine having myles on one side parsons on the other side ! lol

That would be a seriously lethal side of the ball.
 
Given the news of Myles Garrett wanting a trade breaking today, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon. I learned on the Pat McAfee Show today that Garrett has not got much guaranteed money on his contract remaining. If the Browns do not trade him, he will probably be extended to a massive deal. If he gets traded, he's going to command a lot of money.

This puts the ball in Jerry's court with Parsons. I think that the Cowboys need to decide what they want to do with Micah Parsons. If we are going to extend Parsons, then we need to do that ASAP while it's cheaper to do so. I don't want to go through another offseason where they are waiting until training camp to extend him like Dak and Lamb. The sooner we do it, the more money we can save. Additionally, the language of the contract could free up cap space, so that's another good reason to do it soon.

Alternatively, if they want to move on from Parsons, they should be floating Parsons out for trade deals before the draft so we can get as many picks as possible. Like Garrett with the Browns if they trade him, we would likely get a haul for Parsons.

In either case, the Joneses need to make a decision soon on Parsons. Either option is correct as far as I am concerned, provides that it's done before the draft and is done before something is done with Garrett.
If they haven’t already made a decision it just shows their incompetence. Sign, trade or what ever, that decision should have been made already
 

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