The Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon

[Bobhaze]

Bob, I wonder if he means less money vs a team-friendly structure. I say that coz he was clear his reasoning was bringing more players. Either way, he should be commended for the offer coz I can't remember the last Cowboy player willing to go this far to help the team.

I hear ya Hawk. But never ever believe what a player says. Because I will be knocked out shocked if Parsons doesn’t become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL.

It’s never the player’s responsibility to “help the team” financially. That is always the job of the team’s front office. Why should a player be punished financially because an NFL front office cannot or will not use the cap rules wisely. Like the two teams in the SB this year who have multiple players on huge contracts.

So mark me down as predicting that Micah will become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL unless the Cowboys decide to franchise tag him and I think that would backfire.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm betting on another fake last minute signing so Jerry can try to steal headlines

Oh, that's what's probably going to happen, and it further proves how asinine they are. Especially when you consider that they could structure the deal, if done early enough, to get a key player like a Kinlaw, who was actually good with the Jets (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/statistics/_/id/47608/javon-kinlaw) with the cap room we'd free up from a Parsons deal.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I hear ya Hawk. But never ever believe what a player says. Because I will be knocked out shocked if Parsons doesn’t become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL.

It’s never the player’s responsibility to “help the team” financially. That is always the job of the team’s front office. Why should a player be punished financially because an NFL front office cannot or will not use the cap rules wisely. Like the two teams in the SB this year who have multiple players on huge contracts.

So mark me down as predicting that Micah will become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL unless the Cowboys decide to franchise tag him and I think that would backfire.

If they try to franchise him, I think he goes to Philly or a major rival to stick it to the Joneses. I think the most practical choices with him, given how elite of a talent that he is, is to either sign him or trade him.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

There is no way Micah is playing 2025 without a new deal. He will hold out of training camp and Jerry will cave as he always caves.

A trade would be the better option but the Jones are incapable of conceiving a trade that benefits the cowboys more than the other team.

Well, which is all the more reason, especially since they could use the cap space to sign a NT (which we need) and/or a guard from extending Parsons. But that's what a smart GM would do.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I don't disagree that sooner is better from a team strategy perspective. I'm just pointing out that the team doesn't hold all the cards and it makes sense to wait from the player's perspective.

As to Parson's claims.... I guess time will tell on that. I guarantee you his agent doesn't feel the same and that there is legitimate pressure from the Players Association, aka the brotherhood, to maximize his value.

It can't be automatically assumed that the waiting until the last minute we've witnessed is entirely the result of Jerry dragging his feet. It is very possible that earlier, money saving offers like you're suggesting here were made and refused. We just don't know. We do know Jerry to be all about the money and to be known as a shrewd businessman. Logic doesn't seem to dictate that he would wantonly put himself at a financial disadvantage by dragging his feet for no good reason. But again, we just don't know.

No doubt, but someone is going to sign a deal first, and if they want to wait on a TJ Watt deal, then fine, but they should do it before free agency opens so that they can try to use some cap space that might open up from a deal to get someone like a Kinlaw (NT Jets) or a James Daniels (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/25138/james-daniels), assuming Martin doesn't come back.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

There will be no draft hauls for Garrett or Parsons.

Maybe, but we could still get at least a few first for Parsons. Someone will want to trade several important picks for him that are better than a 3rd round comp pick.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I hear ya Hawk. But never ever believe what a player says. Because I will be knocked out shocked if Parsons doesn’t become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL.

It’s never the player’s responsibility to “help the team” financially. That is always the job of the team’s front office. Why should a player be punished financially because an NFL front office cannot or will not use the cap rules wisely. Like the two teams in the SB this year who have multiple players on huge contracts.

So mark me down as predicting that Micah will become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL unless the Cowboys decide to franchise tag him and I think that would backfire.

So you think he's blowing smoke about taking less money? I mean, he could do both.........be the highest paid on a team-friendly contract. Similar to Mahome's contract at the time it was signed. I think Burrow did something similar........he wanted his contract structured in a way to pay other players.
I'm a minority, but I will take him at his word.........I do agree with players getting everything they deserve.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Ship that brat baby off! Trade him, cut him, do whatever, just get him off the team.

Not sure if you know it, but I cannot stand that player.

Lol, and I'm fine with it if that's what the Joneses choose to do (provided they get a good haul starting with at least an extra first or two with more picks on top of that). But I just want them to do either so they can either draft more players (including maybe maneuvering for an Abdul Carter) or free up cap space to sign players. I want them to get on with it.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

So you think he's blowing smoke about taking less money? I mean, he could do both.........be the highest paid on a team-friendly contract. Similar to Mahome's contract at the time it was signed. I think Burrow did something similar........he wanted his contract structured in a way to pay other players.
I'm a minority, but I will take him at his word.........I do agree with players getting everything they deserve.

Well, and I think there's a line as to how team friendly he'd be able to do. If it's too team friendly, the NFLPA would throw a hissy fit about it and could make things problematic for him too. So, especially if Watt ends up getting $35-36 mil, then I'd imagine Parsons would have to at least try for somewhere in the $30 mil range to satisfy the NFLPA.

 

[rambo2]

Why would Parsons and his agent willingly be the first when waiting would be more beneficial to them?

Parsons already said he would do a deal now.

 

[rambo2]

How bout trading Parsons for Garrett ?
What does the board think about that ?

They are going to sign Parsons and create cap space.

 

[TNCowboy]

No, they don't have to. They can pay him now and then franchise him if need be.

You learned wrong. Garrett is still owed $45 million on his deal. And CLE has supposedly turned down 2 #1s for him in the past. No one with half a brain is giving him a 29 year old a new deal when they've got 3 years of control left. Well, Jerry, Jerry is stupid enough to do that.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Cleveland has a legit shot at drafting Abdul Carter. He looks to be a proficient edge at a more than reasonable rate of pay. How about offering Cleveland something else. Because carrying the Watson contract means they’ll covet players at a reasonable rate of pay.

Well, let's take a look at this:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/team/dal/sort/contract_value

And here are the 2027 FAs:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2027/team/dal/sort/contract_value

So, even though he's not got a huge amount of cap space left, Garrett does still have 2 years left in his deal, and he doesn't have a "no trade clause" in his deal. Perhaps, combined with a 2nd round pick or two (since we usually waste them anyway), we could throw in some of these options and see if we can get Garrett. Perhaps we can have both Parsons on a new deal AND Garrett for a few seasons? Then, let him walk afterwards and reap the comp pick.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Maybe, but we could still get at least a few first for Parsons. Someone will want to trade several important picks for him that are better than a 3rd round comp pick.

Not even one first round pick. Not for Garrett or Parsons. Cost controlled rookie contracts are necessary to properly manage the salary cap. Any trade involving 1st round picks in today’s NFL will be teams swapping firsts. The days of draft hauls, since all recent ones were disasters, are over. No one will want to trade cost controlled talent to immediately plunge themselves into a $30 million per season contract on one player. The Eagles couldn’t get a first for Jalen Carter and he’s only going into his third season in 2025.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

No, they don't have to. They can pay him now and then franchise him if need be.

You learned wrong. Garrett is still owed $45 million on his deal. And CLE has supposedly turned down 2 #1s for him in the past. No one with half a brain is giving him a 29 year old a new deal when they've got 3 years of control left. Well, Jerry, Jerry is stupid enough to do that.

Maybe I misheard what Schefter said on the show, but it sounded like there was less guaranteed money.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21742/myles-garrett/contract/cash

Here's his contract. Using the tabs, it looks like there may be an angle (besides not wanting to be part of another rebuild here in Cleveland) for him wanting a new deal. Yes, he's got a $43 mil guaranteed as part of his deal, but look at the base salary. The majority of the money under the "Cash" tab are club option bonuses. The guaranteed money is almost used up in the deal. So, that's more consistent with what I heard from Schefter.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Not even one first round pick. Not for Garrett or Parsons. Cost controlled rookie contracts are necessary to properly manage the salary cap. Any trade involving 1st round picks in today’s NFL will be teams swapping firsts. The days of draft hauls, since all recent ones were disasters, are over. No one will want to trade cost controlled talent to immediately plunge themselves into a $30 million per season contract on one player. The Eagles couldn’t get a first for Jalen Carter and he’s only going into his third season in 2025.

Sure, which speaks more to the need to sign him as soon as possible to try to get it done and clear up space for some signings we might need to make.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Parsons already said he would do a deal now.

All the more reason for Jerry to get on with it. Chop chop Jerry!!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well, and I think there's a line as to how team friendly he'd be able to do. If it's too team friendly, the NFLPA would throw a hissy fit about it and could make things problematic for him too. So, especially if Watt ends up getting $35-36 mil, then I'd imagine Parsons would have to at least try for somewhere in the $30 mil range to satisfy the NFLPA.

Now, given that he has a podcast deal with Bleacher Report, that may also be an advantage to the Cowboys is the FO gets on it soon. The endorsements and media deal he's already got and will get will probably help in the negotiations, especially when it comes to guaranteed money.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

No, they don't have to. They can pay him now and then franchise him if need be.

You learned wrong. Garrett is still owed $45 million on his deal. And CLE has supposedly turned down 2 #1s for him in the past. No one with half a brain is giving him a 29 year old a new deal when they've got 3 years of control left. Well, Jerry, Jerry is stupid enough to do that.

T....take a look at this. Unless I'm missing something, he has no more guaranteed money left on the current deal and two non-guaranteed years left. It's voided in 2027 but that's formality coz there's no way in hell he's playing w/o new guaranteed money.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21742/myles-garrett
https://overthecap.com/player/myles-garrett/5585

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

T....take a look at this. Unless I'm missing something, he has no more guaranteed money left on the current deal and two non-guaranteed years left. It's voided in 2027 but that's formality coz there's no way in hell he's playing w/o new guaranteed money.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21742/myles-garrett
https://overthecap.com/player/myles-garrett/5585

That's what I saw in my response. So, I think it's possible, if the Browns don't want to extend him (especially with the Watson deal), for us to potentially have him on the same team with Parsons, but, again, it'd hinge on Jerry being prudent for once and actually getting Parsons extended. Theoretically, we could offer a second and a player or two like a Mazi Smith, and the Browns might take it. How good would our dline be with both Parsons AND Garrett? Plus, when he becomes a free agent, we would get the comp pick for Garrett. But, again, it hinges on Jerry signing Parsons.