The Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon

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Given the news of Myles Garrett wanting a trade breaking today, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon. I learned on the Pat McAfee Show today that Garrett has not got much guaranteed money on his contract remaining. If the Browns do not trade him, he will probably be extended to a massive deal. If he gets traded, he's going to command a lot of money.

This puts the ball in Jerry's court with Parsons. I think that the Cowboys need to decide what they want to do with Micah Parsons. If we are going to extend Parsons, then we need to do that ASAP while it's cheaper to do so. I don't want to go through another offseason where they are waiting until training camp to extend him like Dak and Lamb. The sooner we do it, the more money we can save. Additionally, the language of the contract could free up cap space, so that's another good reason to do it soon.

Alternatively, if they want to move on from Parsons, they should be floating Parsons out for trade deals before the draft so we can get as many picks as possible. Like Garrett with the Browns if they trade him, we would likely get a haul for Parsons.

In either case, the Joneses need to make a decision soon on Parsons. Either option is correct as far as I am concerned, provides that it's done before the draft and is done before something is done with Garrett.
Is there even someone who thinks there is a question of whether he will be extended/resigned?
 

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Do you believe Jerry Jones is dynamic enough to accomplish anything close to what you’re suggesting? He drags his feet on getting players signed. He’s not aggressive acquiring extensions for his own players let alone acquiring players from other teams. Some team will work out a deal for Garrett. It won’t be the Cowboys, or the Eagles, and probably not the Commanders. Watch the Rams, however. That team is creatively managed. Hope it’s not the Lions. That team is in poor humor right now. But a team will have to be willing to trade some players in a deal for Garrett.
I'd trade our first this year and Kneeland. That probably wouldn't be enough, but Cleveland would get a young pass rusher/second-round pick and the 12th overall pick and lose a player who is approaching 30, wants to leave and costs the Browns $20 million a year for the next two years.

Most likely, though, any trade is going to start with two firsts in the price. Dallas also likely would not even consider trading Kneeland because he's on his rookie deal, so they have him for fairly cheap for the next three years. But I'd do it in a second for a proven star.
 

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I'd trade our first this year and Kneeland. That probably wouldn't be enough, but Cleveland would get a young pass rusher/second-round pick and the 12th overall pick and lose a player who is approaching 30, wants to leave and costs the Browns $20 million a year for the next two years.

Most likely, though, any trade is going to start with two firsts in the price. Dallas also likely would not even consider trading Kneeland because he's on his rookie deal, so they have him for fairly cheap for the next three years. But I'd do it in a second for a proven star.
No way Jerry sits out the first round, for any player. He wants to be in the draft show. Tyler Smith, Mazi Smith, Jourdan Lewis and a 2025 2nd round pick would likely get it done.
 

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Bad move, then we definitely lose him when he indicated he'd be willing to take a team friendly deal and sign sooner. If we let him go in FA, I think he goes to a division rival. I think the smarter move is to try to extend him for 4 years, especially since we can free up cap space that way.
it’s an option. But I Agree. I doubt they go that route.

he Would be going into his 7th season with the 2nd tag.

His super power is his speed.

eventually it will start to go.
 

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I'm sure he would sign the right deal right now. I'm pretty sure he isn't giving some early bird discount though.

It's a pretty savvy pr move to put that out there. Now if he doesn't get the right offer and it drags out, the focus will be on Jerry for not getting it done "when he could have gotten him cheaper", instead of on Parsons for being greedy.
Why rush into a deal?

at best, Dallas saves some 2025 cap.

maybe 15M off his 5th year option?

thats not enough to rush into a bad contract that hurts the team In 2026-29.
 

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I'm sure he would sign the right deal right now. I'm pretty sure he isn't giving some early bird discount though.

It's a pretty savvy pr move to put that out there. Now if he doesn't get the right offer and it drags out, the focus will be on Jerry for not getting it done "when he could have gotten him cheaper", instead of on Parsons for being greedy.
As per the 'early bird discount and with the Dak contract, there's other ways to get a contract that benefits both and that's length of contract.
 

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You don't trade Micah for Garret. The only reason to get Garrett is to complement Garrett. Having 1 threat on the DL allows the offense to take that guy out of the play every down. Getting them both forces the opponent to take some attention away from one or the other.

His CAP number for his new team would be very low so the new team could throw him a signing bonus to appease him and still keep his CAP number down.

The question Dallas needs to ask is, is Garrett going to move the needle as far as the playoffs and SB are concerned? The answer depends on what else they are willing to do in the offseason.

I think the odds of Garrett to Dallas are very small, minuscule. Cleveland has major CAP issues already and trading Garrett would be a $16 million CAP hit for them.

Plus, didn't Garrett say he wants a chance to win a Super Bowl? I think there is a better chance he winds up in Washington or Philly than in Dallas.
 

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Given the news of Myles Garrett wanting a trade breaking today, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Micah Parsons soon. I learned on the Pat McAfee Show today that Garrett has not got much guaranteed money on his contract remaining. If the Browns do not trade him, he will probably be extended to a massive deal. If he gets traded, he's going to command a lot of money.

This puts the ball in Jerry's court with Parsons. I think that the Cowboys need to decide what they want to do with Micah Parsons. If we are going to extend Parsons, then we need to do that ASAP while it's cheaper to do so. I don't want to go through another offseason where they are waiting until training camp to extend him like Dak and Lamb. The sooner we do it, the more money we can save. Additionally, the language of the contract could free up cap space, so that's another good reason to do it soon.

Alternatively, if they want to move on from Parsons, they should be floating Parsons out for trade deals before the draft so we can get as many picks as possible. Like Garrett with the Browns if they trade him, we would likely get a haul for Parsons.

In either case, the Joneses need to make a decision soon on Parsons. Either option is correct as far as I am concerned, provides that it's done before the draft and is done before something is done with Garrett.
Rusty, my man,......the decision is already in. Jerry will pay him the max contract.

Those drafted high almost always get resigned.....even Mazi will be resigned
 

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As per the 'early bird discount and with the Dak contract, there's other ways to get a contract that benefits both and that's length of contract.
Even then it's a give and take. Mahomes and his ten year deal which made him filthy rich, gave the team maximum flexibility with the cap but takes him out of the running for another piece of the pie as the market rate increases.

vs Dak who stood his ground for both max value and a short term deal which put him in position to capitalize on the ever increasing market rate and gave the team very little flexibility with the cap.

Hard to compare QB to DE/LB in this context because it might make more sense to give a QB a long deal than it does the DE/LB. Whatever the case it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out and just how sincere Parsons is.
 

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IMO this is good situation for both Micah Parson and Jerry Jones. For Parsons he is going to get paid and very likely be the highest paid D player in NFL history at the time.

For Jerry Jones this very contract will keep him in the media every news cycle for much if not all the off season. He loves the attention. It feeds his ego.

Both will ultimately get what they want and need.
 

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I agree, this need to be done right away or the price will become more expensive
you do realize this isn't the 70s and the 80s where players represented themselves or most of the representation were provided by the teams or leagues and they didn't have a clue about this, but this is the new day and age the salary cap teams do not have the upper hand anymore.​

I'm saying this because you think that these players and agents don't know what you're trying to do they understand that these other players are about to get paid and you all keep thinking Jerry's the one holding these deals up you really think Prescott back way before he got his first deal you know when he snapped his ankle off and still got paid everyone said we should have paid him the year before you don't think that his agent would have smelled this coming and said no way there's no way we're taking less money and a long deal they would have demanded a three-year deal and I've said this before and that means we'd be in the same spot now because the deal would be shorter the money would get bigger and boom we're right back where we started.

A good example is lamb when they did lamb's deal he was not going to sign it until he got exactly what he wanted and that was looking to the future not the now these agents and players are not looking at well if we sign a deal right now for less we're set for life, no they're set for life already... that's an old mantra, they don't listen to that garbage anymore they can just up and leave and get paid somewhere else the same amount of money...

That's a fact they were waiting on Jefferson or chase to get paid they wanted to see where the new market was they were not going to budget in the winner of all this is going to be chase because he never budged you don't think they tried to get a deal done in Cincinnati to sign him before he got to that point yes they did the agents and the players said hell no they have representation to make sure they're not undervalued or underpaid..​

There are no secrets anymore this is literally now you have to work on equal leverage, there is no leverage on either side, and when you have proper representation, they're going to tell you what your worth is five years from now... they're not looking at today's value, they're not going to sign a low ball of money and have to go with the other things you put language in the contract like more years void years all that nonsense for the salary cap these players are not stupid you're acting like these players I'm just gonna say yes and that Jerry somehow behind the scenes haven't had any conversation about getting a deal done early and it was rejected just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen...

So, this is this isn't just to you this is to the original post and everybody reading this stop blaming Jerry for these deals that don't get signed until too late they are definitely not trying to pay more they are not trying to place themselves out of the market by resetting the market... that is not the goal, they are also not stupid Jerry Jones is a businessman right you don't like him as a GM or a player personnel genius but he is a businessman.. you think he's purposely trying to make himself pay more for these deals why does it have something to do with the other two parts of the parties the player and the agents are controlling this.​

So, let's get this straight, stop blaming Jerry and the Jones family acting as if they didn't know any better and they're doing this on purpose no they're not doing it on purpose they're moving parts to this

  1. you have the players contract coming up and they know where they sit in value to your team and what type of player they've been, so you have the player involved he has an ego as well..
  2. You have the agent who is hired to make sure he keeps the player happy and filled his pockets with a bigger percentage the bigger the contract is or to get a shorter contract if you're gonna pay a little less and then he's back at the table when the markets exploded even more sooner so he gets more money again
  3. then you have the other players at the same position in similar value of where they're at according to the league and their contracts are coming up therefore they're factoring into this as well everybody's watching each other to see who will reset the market 1st that way they can get more value if they wait on that player and that is exactly what happened with lamb that's what they were waiting on they got what they wanted at least the Cowboys didn't have to pay more than Jefferson but jamar chase is sitting in the driver seat now I think he nearly got the Triple Crown now the Bengals must be stupid they must have a worse Jerry Jones on their team how can you let a guy like that auntie Higgins get to this spot now? And yes we need examples around here because we blame Jerry for everything well Jerry's not on all these teams and hell Jerry didn't trade Luka yes i had to put that pot shot in there...
  4. And now you have the team and yes the team has to keep their business afloat by getting the best deal you can but at the same time they can't cave and give everything up front to a player if the demands behind the scenes that we have nothing to do with we have no knowledge of because not everything is reported you think everything is reported because somehow this is a public entity and that you're like part of the process like your shareholder or something no you don't know what's going on behind the scenes none of us ever do you only know what they want us to know... And I'm telling you my gut says the Jones family knows business and they've tried to get some of these deals done sooner and you know how I know this because we've seen it go smoothly with more than a handful of players we never heard about the Trayvon diggs deal it just happened the Terrence steel deal it just happened we've seen it with jalen Smith we've seen it with other players it literally just gets done we wake up one day and say hey we just resigned this guy it's happened with will mcclay everybody thought maybe he would jump ship because he saw this disaster yeah he's been with this team for 20 seasons now in different capacities and yet he's chosen to stay that deal didn't take long to get done and he's well paid I also want to cite the example of everyone called Jerry cheap he's not paying his coaches the cheapest salaries we've already proven that I've already did the research it's usually middle of the pack but when it came to Dan Quinn did that take long we kept Dan Quinn here 2 years longer by paying him head coaching money which by the way I always paid him the same amount of money he's making now as a head coach but he was a an assistant but Oh no Jerry's cheap that must be the narrative we have to stick to because fans hate him and I get it I know why you hate him but let's stop acting like this is all easily taken care of by just knowing and offering these players early deals. They wish it was that simple it's far from simple there's too many moving parts nobody's going to take a deal that doesn't fit the above conditions.
 

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Bad move, then we definitely lose him when he indicated he'd be willing to take a team friendly deal and sign sooner. If we let him go in FA, I think he goes to a division rival. I think the smarter move is to try to extend him for 4 years, especially since we can free up cap space that way.
I am not saying this in untrue but I bet you said the exact same things about Dez and Zeke and Diggs. Probably said it about J Smooth and Ratliff and Hatcher. Probably like the Martin extension as well.
 

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you do realize this isn't the 70s and the 80s where players represented themselves or most of the representation were provided by the teams or leagues and they didn't have a clue about this, but this is the new day and age the salary cap teams do not have the upper hand anymore.​

I'm saying this because you think that these players and agents don't know what you're trying to do they understand that these other players are about to get paid and you all keep thinking Jerry's the one holding these deals up you really think Prescott back way before he got his first deal you know when he snapped his ankle off and still got paid everyone said we should have paid him the year before you don't think that his agent would have smelled this coming and said no way there's no way we're taking less money and a long deal they would have demanded a three-year deal and I've said this before and that means we'd be in the same spot now because the deal would be shorter the money would get bigger and boom we're right back where we started.

A good example is lamb when they did lamb's deal he was not going to sign it until he got exactly what he wanted and that was looking to the future not the now these agents and players are not looking at well if we sign a deal right now for less we're set for life, no they're set for life already... that's an old mantra, they don't listen to that garbage anymore they can just up and leave and get paid somewhere else the same amount of money...

That's a fact they were waiting on Jefferson or chase to get paid they wanted to see where the new market was they were not going to budget in the winner of all this is going to be chase because he never budged you don't think they tried to get a deal done in Cincinnati to sign him before he got to that point yes they did the agents and the players said hell no they have representation to make sure they're not undervalued or underpaid..​

There are no secrets anymore this is literally now you have to work on equal leverage, there is no leverage on either side, and when you have proper representation, they're going to tell you what your worth is five years from now... they're not looking at today's value, they're not going to sign a low ball of money and have to go with the other things you put language in the contract like more years void years all that nonsense for the salary cap these players are not stupid you're acting like these players I'm just gonna say yes and that Jerry somehow behind the scenes haven't had any conversation about getting a deal done early and it was rejected just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen...

So, this is this isn't just to you this is to the original post and everybody reading this stop blaming Jerry for these deals that don't get signed until too late they are definitely not trying to pay more they are not trying to place themselves out of the market by resetting the market... that is not the goal, they are also not stupid Jerry Jones is a businessman right you don't like him as a GM or a player personnel genius but he is a businessman.. you think he's purposely trying to make himself pay more for these deals why does it have something to do with the other two parts of the parties the player and the agents are controlling this.​

So, let's get this straight, stop blaming Jerry and the Jones family acting as if they didn't know any better and they're doing this on purpose no they're not doing it on purpose they're moving parts to this

  1. you have the players contract coming up and they know where they sit in value to your team and what type of player they've been, so you have the player involved he has an ego as well..
  2. You have the agent who is hired to make sure he keeps the player happy and filled his pockets with a bigger percentage the bigger the contract is or to get a shorter contract if you're gonna pay a little less and then he's back at the table when the markets exploded even more sooner so he gets more money again
  3. then you have the other players at the same position in similar value of where they're at according to the league and their contracts are coming up therefore they're factoring into this as well everybody's watching each other to see who will reset the market 1st that way they can get more value if they wait on that player and that is exactly what happened with lamb that's what they were waiting on they got what they wanted at least the Cowboys didn't have to pay more than Jefferson but jamar chase is sitting in the driver seat now I think he nearly got the Triple Crown now the Bengals must be stupid they must have a worse Jerry Jones on their team how can you let a guy like that auntie Higgins get to this spot now? And yes we need examples around here because we blame Jerry for everything well Jerry's not on all these teams and hell Jerry didn't trade Luka yes i had to put that pot shot in there...
  4. And now you have the team and yes the team has to keep their business afloat by getting the best deal you can but at the same time they can't cave and give everything up front to a player if the demands behind the scenes that we have nothing to do with we have no knowledge of because not everything is reported you think everything is reported because somehow this is a public entity and that you're like part of the process like your shareholder or something no you don't know what's going on behind the scenes none of us ever do you only know what they want us to know... And I'm telling you my gut says the Jones family knows business and they've tried to get some of these deals done sooner and you know how I know this because we've seen it go smoothly with more than a handful of players we never heard about the Trayvon diggs deal it just happened the Terrence steel deal it just happened we've seen it with jalen Smith we've seen it with other players it literally just gets done we wake up one day and say hey we just resigned this guy it's happened with will mcclay everybody thought maybe he would jump ship because he saw this disaster yeah he's been with this team for 20 seasons now in different capacities and yet he's chosen to stay that deal didn't take long to get done and he's well paid I also want to cite the example of everyone called Jerry cheap he's not paying his coaches the cheapest salaries we've already proven that I've already did the research it's usually middle of the pack but when it came to Dan Quinn did that take long we kept Dan Quinn here 2 years longer by paying him head coaching money which by the way I always paid him the same amount of money he's making now as a head coach but he was a an assistant but Oh no Jerry's cheap that must be the narrative we have to stick to because fans hate him and I get it I know why you hate him but let's stop acting like this is all easily taken care of by just knowing and offering these players early deals. They wish it was that simple it's far from simple there's too many moving parts nobody's going to take a deal that doesn't fit the above conditions.
When Jerry waits to see where the market is before signing players to a subsequent contract he is, in effect, allowing other owners to tell him what he’s going to pay his players. Reactive, not proactive. All the words in the world, a majority of which you just utilized, is not going to make this a prudent way to manage an NFL roster.
 

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No way Jerry sits out the first round, for any player. He wants to be in the draft show. Tyler Smith, Mazi Smith, Jourdan Lewis and a 2025 2nd round pick would likely get it done.
Jourdan Lewis is not under contract, and I wouldn't trade away our best offensive lineman.
 
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