The defense will be better with Zeke

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The greatest show on turf had the best WR corps I've ever seen. Holt, Bruce, Proehl, and Az-Hakim were 4 receivers that nobody could matchup with and Faulk still managed to get a ton of catches.

We have Dez, Witten, and a lot of disappointment. Not to mention our OC coached those guys.


The greatest show on turf featured a HOF back in Faulk who put up 2740 rushing yards and 25 rushing TD's during the Rams back to back SB seasons. He also accounted for 13 receiving TD's those 2 seasons. Faulk being such a threat in the running game helped open up the passing game and made the Rams nearly impossible to defend with Warner who was on fire. Proehl and Az-Hakim were products of Kurt Warner and his ability to find receivers.

They were perfect compliments to Bruce and Holt in that system. When you have a big threat at RB with a system in place to take advantage of the talent you have on offense along with a QB who's lighting it up it's a recipe for explosiveness. Twill isn't consistent but he does show up in big games, is clutch and does score TD's. He does have to start being more consistent or eventually the Cowboys will look to replace him. They obviously still have confidence in him because they didn't draft a receiver.

I have to say your reading skills are terrible.
 

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Um, that exactly proves my point, if it happens that way.

Let's assume the opponent decides to focus on taking away the run -- the offense has poor rushing stats, but it has a better passing day, as you said. And we know that when a team has a better passing day, it has a much better chance of winning. Thus, having poor rushing stats does not prevent the team from having a better chance of winning, because it passed better. And for the opponent, focusing on taking away the run and stopping the run did not help it stop the pass or increase its chances of winning.

Now let's assume that the opponent decides to focus on stopping the pass. As you say, the offense then has a better rushing day but a worse passing day. And we know that when a team has a worse passing day, it has much less chance of winning. Thus, having great rushing stats did not help the team pass better or increase its chances of winning. And for the opponent, focusing on taking away the pass at the expense of allowing the opponent to run better greatly increased its chances of winning.

So, by your own words, a defense that focuses on shutting down the run increases its chances of losing, while a defense that focuses on shutting down the pass and doesn't worry about allowing the opponent to run the ball increases its chances of winning.

Let me guess, you want to change your mind about what you said?

Umm, no.

Just read this, if you have the time. It's quite lengthy, but here's the jist.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...hing-numbers-under-further-review-part-iii-iv

The NFL is not a passing league. It is a quarterback's league. There is a distinct difference here. It's not about filling the air with footballs; if anything, the evidence suggests this is how you lose. It's about giving your quarterback an environment to succeed and then having one that can execute consistently and efficiently. Success happens when a team complements this with a healthy dose of the running game (preferably more than fifty percent). It doesn't even matter how well the running game is working - the key is to just keep handing it off. Likewise, defenses thrive by having the ability to compromise the play of the opposing quarterback and forcing an abandonment of the running game, which is a potent combination.
 

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I have no idea what you're talking about show me my post where I mentioned Witten.

I said Blind said a comment about Witten to which I responded. You then responded to my post. I have quoted the 3 posts to help you out even.

That you haven't caught up to the argument is obvious.
 

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How has this gone on for 34 pages? Of course he's going to help the defense, that's what a stable running game does, clock control = less time on the field for the defense.
 

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I said Blind said a comment about Witten to which I responded. You then responded to my post. I have quoted the 3 posts to help you out even.

That you haven't caught up to the argument is obvious.

What you said has been quoted you're just trying to create an argument. You claimed I said Witten precludes another receiver getting touches when I never inferred that or mentioned Witten. I was talking about what made the Greatest Show on Turf special. The only mention I made about the Cowboys is that Twill needs to become more consistent. You're just reading what you want into my comments to start an argument.

You were saying Witten precludes another receiver getting touches. You've surrendered that argument and moved the goalposts.
 
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Gravitational waves were detected this year just as Einstein predicted.

http://www.nature.com/news/gravitational-waves-how-ligo-forged-the-path-to-victory-1.19382

He described it as the curvature of space time which is in all places at all times. This explains the action at a distance and when mass is converted from energy in a location the gravity well propagates at the speed of light.

Even before they were discovered there was a testable hypothesis. You willfully ignore the data you're given. Your name is appropriate.

We still don't know exactly how gravity works even though we have detected gravitational waves. It is all theoretical at this point.

Is gravity the exchange of gravitons, or the curvature of space-time?
Theorists believe that both of these descriptions are valid, in much the same way that we can think of the force of electromagnetism as being either the product of a continuous field, or the exchange of numerous force-carrying particles called photons. For certain 'classical' calculations, the description of electromagnetism as a field is more workable than its 'quantum' description, and vice versa. The problem is that, although physicists have a workable theory of gravity that involves the gravitational field, and gravitational forces as a curvature of space-time, there is no currently believable quantum theory of gravity involving 'gravitons'. We do not even know, a priori, whether there are such things as gravitons even though we have isolated the particles responsible for the other three forces in nature. Just as photons are 'packets' of the electromagnetic field, gravitons would be considered 'packets' of the gravitational field or space-time curvature.
 

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What you said has been quoted you're just trying to create an argument. You claimed I said Witten precludes another receiver getting touches when I never never inferred that or mentioned Witten. I was talking about what made the Greatest Show on Turf special. The only mention I made about the Cowboys is that Twill needs to become more consistent. You're just reading what you want into my comments to start an argument.

And for the record, I was just throwing that out there. I'd love to see us use Zeke like the Rams did Faulk. I just really don't see it happening here. But maybe since they were finally playing around with the idea last year until Dunbar got hurt again.
 

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What you said has been quoted you're just trying to create an argument. You claimed I said Witten precludes another receiver getting touches when I never inferred that or mentioned Witten. I was talking about what made the Greatest Show on Turf special. The only mention I made about the Cowboys is that Twill needs to become more consistent. You're just reading what you want into my comments to start an argument.

Again, you interjected yourself into an ongoing argument. I assumed that you had kept up. My bad.
 

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And for the record, I was just throwing that out there. I'd love to see us use Zeke like the Rams did Faulk. I just really don't see it happening here. But maybe since they were finally playing around with the idea last year until Dunbar got hurt again.

If Romo can stay healthy and Dez returns to form the offense could be excellent. It's going to have to real good to mask the defense unless the D much better than expected.
 

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We still don't know exactly how gravity works even though we have detected gravitational waves. It is all theoretical at this point.

Is gravity the exchange of gravitons, or the curvature of space-time?
Theorists believe that both of these descriptions are valid, in much the same way that we can think of the force of electromagnetism as being either the product of a continuous field, or the exchange of numerous force-carrying particles called photons. For certain 'classical' calculations, the description of electromagnetism as a field is more workable than its 'quantum' description, and vice versa. The problem is that, although physicists have a workable theory of gravity that involves the gravitational field, and gravitational forces as a curvature of space-time, there is no currently believable quantum theory of gravity involving 'gravitons'. We do not even know, a priori, whether there are such things as gravitons even though we have isolated the particles responsible for the other three forces in nature. Just as photons are 'packets' of the electromagnetic field, gravitons would be considered 'packets' of the gravitational field or space-time curvature.

That did not address the waves found this winter. This is meaningless regarding football.

The theory of gravity has evolved enough that we can make predictions with a high degree of precision. Your theory of the running game has no analog.
 

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And for the record, I was just throwing that out there. I'd love to see us use Zeke like the Rams did Faulk. I just really don't see it happening here. But maybe since they were finally playing around with the idea last year until Dunbar got hurt again.

I agree that it would be great to maximize the use of Zeke's talent and yes him like Faulk. He has the hands to be a very good receiver on the routes that RBs don't usually run. If he catches a ball 15 yards down the field, he is looking at a TD with his running ability. There would only be a couple players to avoid at that point of the play. I just wish the coaches was that creative.
 

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Again, you interjected yourself into an ongoing argument. I assumed that you had kept up. My bad.

I made a comment about the Rams Greatest Show on Turf and you decided to interject with some BS to try and stir up an argument and came away with a pie in your face. lol
 

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That did not address the waves found this winter. This is meaningless regarding football.

The theory of gravity has evolved enough that we can make predictions with a high degree of precision. Your theory of the running game has no analog.

Please. I just, again, proved you wrong. We don't know how gravity works, but yet it does. Take your ball and go home if you want. Or you can read the article I posted and get all the "analog" you want.
 

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I made a comment about the Rams Greatest Show on Turf and you decided to interject with some BS to try and stir up an argument and came away with a pie in your face. lol

He's not fuzzy at all. At least not warm and fuzzy. More like mold.
 

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And for the record, I was just throwing that out there. I'd love to see us use Zeke like the Rams did Faulk. I just really don't see it happening here. But maybe since they were finally playing around with the idea last year until Dunbar got hurt again.

Our OC worked with Faulk. Why wouldn't we be able to? He knows the plays.
 

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Our OC worked with Faulk. Why wouldn't we be able to? He knows the plays.

I don't know. Ask him. A lot of it hinges on the pass rush and keeping that RB in to block more so than back when the Rams were playing perhaps. Or maybe Faulk was just a very unique talent.
 
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