The Duece will be Cut loose

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

But Duece V was supposed to "have a lot of Barry Sanders in him"

HA HA HA!!!!!!
HA HA HA!!!!!!

I STILL can't believe I read that from MULTIPLE Zaney Zoners last year, and actually one THIS year, even after he proved he won't even make it as a backup, much less future HOFer.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You are just arguing every point and forgetting the argument. How does what you are saying make it so that your video showed Vaughn making people miss which is what your claim was.

Nevermind that was all second half preseason tape which you just disregard.

So we still have no regular season examples of Vaughn making people miss. Vaughn has tremendous room too improve as well as the OL.

You're wrong. Deuce Vaughn made a few tacklers miss during the regular season. Watch one of the videos I previously included.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

We have the worst RB room in the NFL. We have Short, Slow, Old and Average all covered..

I love a well rounded team!

 

[Chasing6]

His name is Duece Vaughn. And would be such a Cowboy thing to switch him over to WR. The Boys have a bunch of WR who aren't good at WR. Why not use a RB who isn't good at WR.

Let's keep drafting players and try turning them into something they are not. I mean it worked out great for Mazi.

 

[Chasing6]

Why don't they ever go back to the players Halo days and look at what he excelled at the most at KState and devise a opportunistic way to deploy Deuce Vaughn and if they do that and he fails to execute because of his size or speed repeatedly then cut the ties and move forward. I am a fan of lil Deuce so hope he can shine in his given role.

We don't like taking advantage of individual player strengths. We like to force players to play in a system regardless if it works or not.

That's how great coaches coach, by forcing a square peg in a round hole.

 

[deerhunter11]

Let's just play Parsons on both sides of the ball. He'd probably be a really good RB. Does anyone think he wouldn't?

Would that be interesting to see, He could be and kind of looks to me like the late great Jim Brown type back, if he were to be a running back. It is fun to think about but it is a pipe dream.

 

[deerhunter11]

They thought about it last season. He caught 7 passes but with Pollard and Dowdle ahead of him he wasn’t going to get much of an opportunity. Pollard was our big play back plus he was being paid a lot of money on the tag so he was going to be utilized heavily.

Thanks for the info on Duece, I hope he gets the chance to show what he can do. I like how they have him with the wrs , find another way to get him on field,and get him out in space.

 

[Siroky]

The news of Dues McAllister being tried out as a slot-receiver is a big indicator that he won't make the roster this year.
To become a WR, he needs to change his workout routine and body. Having never played WR before, it's unlikely he can make the adjustment at an acceptable NFL level.
It was obvious watching him last season that he is just too small to play RB in the NFL, even as a gadget out of the backfield catch and run RB.
He get's pulled down will extreme ease by NFL Dliners and LB's.
Sproles was small too but he was able to demonstrate his value as a receiving RB and returner. Duece lacks what Sproles had.
Drafting him was a great story but he just has no place in the NFL.

The organization is all about position flexibility- why would this be a surprise or an admission that they are giving up on him as a running back? Let’s see how pre season plays out?

 

[_sturt_]

So we still have no regular season examples of Vaughn making people miss.

Hopefully this is a familiar observation... you'd have to show me the regular season examples of Deuce having the opportunity to run behind the starting O-line instead of the cobbled-together line that was ending games, when both the offense and the defense were just trying to see the clock ran out.

This is about it... and yet, we have all these Debbie Downers so intent on degrading the kid. It's not exactly a testimony to serious football analysis on their part.



The Deuce of Juice is loose, indeed.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're wrong. Deuce Vaughn made a few tacklers miss during the regular season. Watch one of the videos I previously included.

I did watch the videos. You should watch when the first one was posted. It was before the season.

The second one does not show him making anyone miss. We have already established that.

If you want to pretend that Vaughn was playing well but the OL just wouldn't let it show you go right ahead.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hopefully this is a familiar observation... you'd have to show me the regular season examples of Deuce having the opportunity to run behind the starting O-line instead of the cobbled-together line that was ending games, when both the offense and the defense were just trying to see the clock ran out.

This is about it... and yet, we have all these Debbie Downers so intent on degrading the kid. It's not exactly a testimony to serious football analysis on their part.



The Deuce of Juice is loose, indeed.

Why does it have to be either or? I saw Deuce show bad timing multiple times in those snaps and after that game he was mre or less sat for the rest of the season.

I am not some idiot claiming a year 2 prospect is not going to improve. I still see his ceiling as high but to pretend he is right on the cusp of greatness is delusional.

 

[CCBoy]

Why does it have to be either or? I saw Deuce show bad timing multiple times in those snaps and after that game he was mre or less sat for the rest of the season.

I am not some idiot claiming a year 2 prospect is not going to improve. I still see his ceiling as high but to pretend he is right on the cusp of greatness is delusional.

Mix in Deuce and Turpin on the outside with a returned to strength Terence Steele and up to par 1st round pick - Tyler Guyton ... and paint this fan eager to just watch that element develop.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Mix in Deuce and Turpin on the outside with a returned to strength Terence Steele and up to par 1st round pick - Tyler Guyton ... and paint this fan eager to just watch that element develop.

We were the youngest team in the league. The club is obviously banking on internal development. We will see how it goes.

 

[_sturt_]

Why does it have to be either or? I saw Deuce show bad timing multiple times in those snaps and after that game he was mre or less sat for the rest of the season.

If you're sincere, there's nothing I wrote that should bother you.

I'm the one arguing that there is a far from sufficient sample size upon which to base judgment. So, no... indeed... it does not have to be Deuce is on the cusp of greatness... he could be, but we really can't know... nor does it have to be Deuce is on the cusp of being cut, a complete failure... he could be, but we really can't know.

I don't even know that he "has to improve"... sample size... I don't know that your analysis of bad timing is accurate--particularly if you're seeing the one where CeeDee bumps into him (which more likely is CeeDee's fault, since CeeDee controls his pace, but Deuce can only go at the pace that the QB prescribes by handing him the ball)...

It's like suggesting, "Wow, he's a terrible receiver," based on his first reception where he bobbled the ball.

It is not exactly weird that rookies need a little time to acclimate.

Normal, lucid, coherent people don't jump to conclusions based on such limited sample size.

Last, but not least... so tedious to read about Deuce sitting for the rest of the season... when, hell, don't we all know very clearly that this offense was never going to accommodate a 3rd RB with any regularity in the first place, being as it was, an offense built around a bell-cow RB concept?!? And there was never a legitimate way for Deuce to ascend to the #2 since the #1 guy wasn't a pass protection guy... meaning you had to have a #2 back who was a pass protection guy.

Just sayin.

 

[CCBoy]

We were the youngest team in the league. The club is obviously banking on internal development. We will see how it goes.

Some people still believe in the jury system ... Me, I'm looking forward here and now to the week 8 game against San Francisco.

 

[khiladi]

The Eagle Eyed that we have behind center has trouble finding 7 foot tall WRs after the first read, imagine him trying to locate a midget…

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you're sincere, there's nothing I wrote that should bother you.

I'm the one arguing that there is a far from sufficient sample size upon which to base judgment. So, no... indeed... it does not have to be Deuce is on the cusp of greatness... he could be, but we really can't know... nor does it have to be Deuce is on the cusp of being cut, a complete failure... he could be, but we really can't know.

I don't even know that he "has to improve"... sample size... I don't know that your analysis of bad timing is accurate--particularly if you're seeing the one where CeeDee bumps into him (which more likely is CeeDee's fault, since CeeDee controls his pace, but Deuce can only go at the pace that the QB prescribes by handing him the ball)...

It's like suggesting, "Wow, he's a terrible receiver," based on his first reception where he bobbled the ball.

It is not exactly weird that rookies need a little time to acclimate.

Normal, lucid, coherent people don't jump to conclusions based on such limited sample size.

Last, but not least... so tedious to read about Deuce sitting for the rest of the season... when, hell, don't we all know very clearly that this offense was never going to accommodate a 3rd RB with any regularity in the first place, being as it was, an offense built around a bell-cow RB concept?!? And there was never a legitimate way for Deuce to ascend to the #2 since the #1 guy wasn't a pass protection guy... meaning you had to have a #2 back who was a pass protection guy.

Just sayin.

You quoted me and then were talking about Debby Downers intent on bashing him. I find you less and less credible.

And I was talking about his timing and how it was bad in the clips you presented. Now you are claiming nothing is knowable and claiming anyone who does not agree with you is abnormal, inebriated and incoherent. Your passive aggressive positioning is pretty damn boring.

I never claimed certainty. I was talking about a range of outcomes which should have made that obvious.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I did watch the videos. You should watch when the first one was posted. It was before the season.

The second one does not show him making anyone miss. We have already established that.

If you want to pretend that Vaughn was playing well but the OL just wouldn't let it show you go right ahead.

There is a reason why Deuce is being used much more during OTAs and soon during training camp. It's because the Cowboys plan on using him.

Need a tissue?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There is a reason why Deuce is being used much more during OTAs and soon during training camp. It's because the Cowboys plan on using him.

Need a tissue?

Why would I need a tissue? You have completely given up on every point you made. If you need this strawman to cope: go for it.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Why would I need a tissue? You have completely given up on every point you made. If you need this strawman to cope: go for it.

lol. What were you complaining about?