The effects of age and Dak Prescott

[SquidwardTentacles]

That is valid.

Stats this past season are a bad reference due to limitations on players and using lesser talent in chosen plays. No run and the passing game got dominated.

Valid statistical comparisons need a large number of samples with identical variables.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

This as the offense was installed for Troy Aikman. There are a lot of movement and attacking schemes that have motion and quick direction elements. This past season there was variety it seemed, often dominated in first down sequence. The Red Zone failure was beyond inept.

He struggles against zones.
They require mental mastery of the play, and anticipation of what will be happening including reading the movement cues of the defense and delivering a ball with anticipation of the window opening.

He hesitates while he's trying to confirm a window that has already opened. By the time he pulls the trigger, it's already closing.

 

[TwentyOne]

Btb is not the best source but anyways where does it state he is a strong runner or good scrambler?

What do you want to say with your post? Its a list ordered by an value that you dont explain.or do you even understand what av means?

Does av mean he is a good scrambler? I know it does not.

Why dont you explain to us all in your own words what AV stands for and how it proves what you stated.

@CCBoy

I am still waiting for your explanation of the AV value.

You posted an article with a ranking that purley is based on that value. With that you wanted to prove something. Which you also didnt explain.

You should at least understand what you posted shouldnt you?

BTW if you having troubles finding its definition here you go:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/approximate_value.htm

I am looking forward to your explanation.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

So why does he fail so often in those scenario's, when in less stressful scenario's (like when he's got a lead) he's great. I'd hazard a guess he feels the pressure .... and that increases with, yes the position, but also when the contracts on your back and that's the expectation that's on his own back.
The best example is the GB loss, we blame the defense (yes), but our run game was working, but Dak had to compound the issue by chasing that lead rather than chipping away at the scoreboard.

Because playoff games are lose and you're done, there's no tomorrow if you lose in the playoffs. Lose a game or two or three in the regular season and there's always next week. Barring losing late in the year and the loss puts you out of the playoff chance of course, but that's nearly always not until the last couple of games.

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

Age is the most limitation on a position that involves or takes crushing explosive impact. Known.

That impact is what builds up upon quarterbacks. Speed is an element that has to be monitored. Monitored. The year round conditioning, diet, and directed procedures extend the playing days for players. Darrell Green, a premier runner and football player both, was out running the top runners in the NFL, up into his 40's. Age itself is not above being extended and a player's positional effectiveness retained. That is up to specific limitations or strengths of that particular player.

Non disciplined linemen are responsible for quarterbacks getting injured and accumulation of damage. Coaching staffs that don't hold accountability for penalties have groups that don't fully protect their quarterbacks!

As to quarterbacks, a reduction in risk situations extends his production. The longer a productive quarterback is in the action, he actually gets better if the team around him maintains levels of support.

Moving the ball can be fancy Dan or it can be nose to nose. Injury protection tends towards finesse and open space effectiveness. Speed kills, but team play wins.

The quarterback on the field is the offensive (hence team) leader on the carpet. But the real leadership of team is the coaching staff. They react to play on that carpet and prepare the team for game time activity and reaction to challenges. There are always negative challenges. Good teams are prepared for the effects of game changers.

Game changes are what killed Prescott as well caused failures of even good Dallas teams in playoffs. That part is the reality of football. That is what football is all about...not insults as a sideline to a fan.

Dak is far from a handicapped quarterback due to age. The thing there is a quarterback as team leader is never off the hook. He, although, has plenty of ability to bring to the table and compete.

Readers Digest : I love Dak , I have his pajamas on and his cologne too !!!

 

[CCBoy]

Readers Digest : I love Dak , I have his pajamas on and his cologne too !!!

Dallas received a decent season from Rico Dowdle, who quickly usurped the re-signed Ezekiel Elliott as the team’s primary rusher. Dowdle is unsigned, and this Williams deal would not seem to impede a reunion. The two would bring complementary skillsets. The Cowboys have shown interest in keeping Dowdle, but it will be interesting to see if a player who can blend a quality season with low mileage can fetch notable offers elsewhere.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/03/cowboys-to-sign-rb-javonte-williams

Williams finished the final year of a four-year rookie deal worth $8,865,752 million with a signing bonus of $3,807,819 million and became a free agent this off-season.

https://nfltraderumors.co/cowboys-signing-rb-javonte-williams-to-one-year-3-million-deal

I was part of a champagne breakfast given for Soldiers of the Year in Hawaii, The last cork on the champagne was popped as we got up to board our bus back to the Hale Koa.

Insult isn't yours to disperse.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Age or not, he is not going to be getting first downs at will with his legs.

 

[CCBoy]

Age or not, he is not going to be getting first downs at will with his legs.

He was a high second round pick and had ACL/MCL procedure. This is the 2nd year of rebound. Part of a team with a good set of strengths. One year deal and he should be motivated with the Cowboys. Coaches and team will help him out.

By the way, where did you get your sport's medicine Medical Degree?

 

[MapleLeaf]

First of all Prescott never really been a running quarterback he's always been a pocket passer that could run a lot like Russell Wilson they didn't need their run game to be good yes it's nice that they can run a little and move like he did when he was a rookie but let's just go back to the game he got hurt in with his hamstring he was moving fine he will be fine but did your delusional you only pick a few quarterbacks the whole entire league gets hurt a lot and has to come back...

But here's one that might be shocking Joe Burrows injury list.. crazy huh?

Joe Burrow Injury History​

Date	League	Injury	Games Missed	Details
Nov 16, 2023	NFL	Hand Wrist Ligament Tear Grade 1	7	Burrow left in the second quarter of Week 11 vs. the Ravens with a right wrist injury. He missed the remainder of the 2023 NFL season.
Jul 27, 2023	NFL	Leg Calf Strain Grade 1	-	Burrow sustained a right calf strain while rolling out in practice. He returned on August 30th and hasn't missed a game due to this injury. However, Burrow reportedly re-aggravated the injury in Week 2 vs. the Ravens.
Feb 13, 2022	NFL	Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2	-	Burrow suffered an MCL sprain in the final minutes of the Super Bowl
Jan 2, 2022	NFL	Knee Unspecified Strain Grade 1	1	Burrow twisted his knee towards the end of the game vs. the Kansas City Chiefs.
Dec 5, 2021	NFL	Hand Finger Dislocation Grade 1	-	Burrow suffered a dislocated pinkie finger in the Bengals' loss to the Chargers
Nov 22, 2020	NFL	Knee ACL Tear Grade 3	6	Burrow suffered a torn left ACL during Week 11's loss to Washington. He was placed on IR and was shut down for the 2020 season.
Nov 22, 2020	NFL	Knee MCL Tear Grade 3	6	Burrow suffered a torn left MCL during Week 11's loss to Washington. He was placed on IR and was shut down for the 2020 season.
Nov 22, 2020	NFL	Knee PCL Tear Grade 3	6	Burrow suffered a partial tear to his PCL during Week 11's loss to Washington. He was placed on IR and was shut down for the 2020 season.
Nov 22, 2020	NFL	Knee Meniscus Tear Grade 1	6	Burrow suffered a partial tear to his meniscus during Week 11's loss to Washington. He was placed on IR and was shut down for the 2020 season.
Jan 16, 2020	Non-NFL	Chest Rib Fracture Grade 1	-	Burrow suffered torn rib cartilage near the end of the second quarter in the College Football Playoff national championship game in New Orleans.
Aug 14, 2017	Non-NFL	Hand Wrist Fracture Grade 1

First you can take the chest, hand and wrist injuries off the Burrow list becasue the original point was about the extent of injuries to a wheel.

So my point to you is from the list I presented is there any other QB who has had more serious end of season injuries to one leg than Dak Prescott of the Dallas Cowboys?

I list them as: Compound fracture, dislocated ankle and a torn hamstring.

I don't think it would be delusional to you if you suffered all those injuried on your right leg? Certainly not for me.

I stand by my statement. We should be on the sidelines watching Dak Prescott, and I would certainly not be "all in" on him becuase he has to prove that he can play beyond these conditions.

Injuries, o-line, rb room and talent limitations. This is not delusional, it's just common sense with an eye on risk management.

 

[CCBoy]

@CCBoy

I am still waiting for your explanation of the AV value.

You posted an article with a ranking that purley is based on that value. With that you wanted to prove something. Which you also didnt explain.

You should at least understand what you posted shouldnt you?

BTW if you having troubles finding its definition here you go:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/approximate_value.htm

I am looking forward to your explanation.

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[CCBoy]

@CCBoy

I am still waiting for your explanation of the AV value.

You posted an article with a ranking that purley is based on that value. With that you wanted to prove something. Which you also didnt explain.

You should at least understand what you posted shouldnt you?

BTW if you having troubles finding its definition here you go:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/approximate_value.htm

I am looking forward to your explanation.

 

[MapleLeaf]

A broken AI at that...

 

[CCBoy]

Sorry guy, this fan keeps it real and shown respect. We were raised with respect, not convenience.

More no football...abstract implied is just that - abstract. No football in the discussion.

 

[Wildcat711]

You always refuse to answer direct questions don't you.

Cut and paste seems about your limit.

 

[MapleLeaf]

People said this when he broke his leg in 2020, he then went on to have two of the best years of his career. I'm not saying that he will bounce back again, just that it has happened before.

This is true statistically. But given his age and the experience it shouldn't have just been the two best years numbers wise, but the two best years post season records wise.

There is no doubt the defences have sucked. And badly. But if you remember the Green Bay game he played poorly. After the prior two years of poor showing one would have expected for him to be really prepared to lead the offence against Green Bay.

That's not what we got. Now he is older and even more injured. What should a reasonable person expect?

I want to cheer for a bounce back, but I an reluctant to give him my benefit of the doubt anymore. I have to see it. Not just in regular season, but into the post-season.

IMO, Dak Prescott is not paid to win regular season games. He is paid as the highest salaried QB in the league to win post-season games.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He was a high second round pick and had ACL/MCL procedure. This is the 2nd year of rebound. Part of a team with a good set of strengths. One year deal and he should be motivated with the Cowboys. Coaches and team will help him out.

By the way, where did you get your sport's medicine Medical Degree?

Did I give a medical diagnosis? No?

Try again, you were wrong on first assumption.

PS you did give a diagnosis. Where is yours?

 

[CCBoy]

You always refuse to answer direct questions don't you.

Cut and paste seems about your limit.

No applicable reading applications to subject matter. I won't change my proper discussion nor apologize for reference sources for statistics or sports reporting sources. That is more than just a convenient opinion.

I won't serve as a whipping boy which seems to be a true pleasure of yours.

For the umpteen time and in thread with many personal observations and experience...Dak is fine and the team is starting to come together in a new founded way. Team!

An insult with the use of a beginning YOU, always indicates insult. That is your ethics...not football or value involved.

Greatest Moment Of 2018 Cowboys Season: Dak's Performance In Playoff Victory Against Seattle​

ARLINGTON, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) - A touchdown pass and touchdown run by quarterback Dak Prescott helped pace the Cowboys to their 24-22 Wild Card Playoff game win over the Seattle Seahawks at AT&T Stadium on January 5.

Prescott looked to finish the fight by running the ball in himself to make the score 24-14 with just over two minutes left in the game. He finished the game with 226 yards passing and two total touchdowns.

"He showed that he won this playoff game. He took it on his shoulders. He made plays that put us in position to come out like we did. That's what you want from your quarterback,"

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/greatest-moment-2018-cowboys-season-playoff-victory-seattle/

Now see if you can match up with your own insult and facts claimed in conflict. And your own tool, 'Can you?'

 

[CCBoy]

Dak Prescott has a passer rating of 91.8 with 1,962 yards, 14 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in 7 games in the playoffs in his career.

Playoff statistics for Dak Prescott.

		NAME	SEASON	TM	GP	CMP	ATT	PCT	YDS	AVG	YDS/G	TD	INT	RTG	TD%	INT%	SCK	SCKY
1		Dak Prescott	2016	DAL	1	24	38	63.2	302	7.9	302.0	3	1	103.2	7.9	2.6	2	11
2		Dak Prescott	2018	DAL	2	42	65	64.6	492	7.6	246.0	2	1	91.3	3.1	1.5	2	18
3		Dak Prescott	2021	DAL	1	23	43	53.5	254	5.9	254.0	1	1	69.3	2.3	2.3	5	40
4		Dak Prescott	2022	DAL	2	48	70	68.6	511	7.3	255.5	5	2	101.5	7.1	2.9	2	8
5		Dak Prescott	2023	DAL	1	41	60	68.3	403	6.7	403.0	3	2	89.8	5.0	3.3	4	16
		Average			1.4	35.6	55.2	64.5	392.4	7.1	280.3	2.8	1.4	91.8	5.1	2.5	3.0	18.6
		Total			7	178	276	64.5	1,962	7.1	280.3	14	7	91.8	5.1	2.5	15	93

2022 and 2023 were solid performances and in today's projection window.

 

[CCBoy]

This is true statistically. But given his age and the experience it shouldn't have just been the two best years numbers wise, but the two best years post season records wise.

There is no doubt the defences have sucked. And badly. But if you remember the Green Bay game he played poorly. After the prior two years of poor showing one would have expected for him to be really prepared to lead the offence against Green Bay.

That's not what we got. Now he is older and even more injured. What should a reasonable person expect?

I want to cheer for a bounce back, but I an reluctant to give him my benefit of the doubt anymore. I have to see it. Not just in regular season, but into the post-season.

IMO, Dak Prescott is not paid to win regular season games. He is paid as the highest salaried QB in the league to win post-season games.

Playoffs are determined by game changers and team.

The QB has to get his team there. Rarely is a playoff team carried there by the QB alone.

 

[CCBoy]

Did I give a medical diagnosis? No?

Try again, you were wrong on first assumption.

PS you did give a diagnosis. Where is yours?

I respect that medical community and was a Master Fitness Trainer trained by the Army.

Your addition to the question was NO. Don't misquote ME.

The highly respected Medical Staff and Conditioning Staff for Jerry Jones have given respectful observations projecting full recoveries. Not MINE.

Don't next go insulting them for Jerry.

You stand both as misquoting me and wrong.