The Endgame

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I second this.

jday, I enjoyed your sexist, condescending post which speaks to your writing ability.
Sexist and condescending, eh? I certainly did not mean to come across that way. My style, if you are familiar with my work, is to draw from my own life experiences and then attempt to liken it to aspect of the Cowboys I want to discuss; otherwise known as anecdotal writing. I do this in hopes of entertaining because otherwise you might not stick around to get the gist of my opinion.

That said, I sincerely apologize if anything I said in the op offended. That was not my intent. :thumbup:
 

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Was this two different people, or were you married for 8 years, divorced, than now married to that same woman again for 2 more years?

Either way, I truly do hope you don't experience the issues my wife and I have. Truth be told, I'd say we have a great marriage. Of course, I only have the one to draw experience from, so I couldn't say how it stacks up to others. But in the op I guess you could say I assumed most could relate to my experiences. If you can't relate, good for you; and I don't mean that sarcastically at all. :thumbup:

Two separate, very different marriages. Neither have had those experiences...yet. The 2nd is still fairly young, so who knows.
 

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Two separate, very different marriages. Neither have had those experiences...yet. The 2nd is still fairly young, so who knows.

Who knows, indeed.

I asked because the first 5 years of my marriage was mostly uneventful, though, we certainly had some hard times in the beginning. But after awhile you slowly but surely collect both things you love about your significant other and things you could do without. And the more you are subjected to those qualities you could do without the less easier it gets to cope with. Then add in kids, financial woes, and the myriad of things that can go wrong in a given life, and stupid arguments happen.

In many cases, stupid arguments can be the result of deflection; meaning, the anger is being aimed at something stupid, but the source of that anger is something that has nothing to do with the recipient. And we've both been guilty of that. At the end of the day, I sometimes have to remind self that no matter what I love her and life would be misery without her. Some days I heed my own advice; other days I lose sight of it. I am by no means a perfect person...and realizing this I have to also acknowledge that neither is my wife nor will she ever be. But as a result of our respect and love for each other, we will forgive each other our faults and do are best to be perfect even if we will always and forever come up short in our efforts.
 

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Sexist and condescending, eh? I certainly did not mean to come across that way. My style, if you are familiar with my work, is to draw from my own life experiences and then attempt to liken it to aspect of the Cowboys I want to discuss; otherwise known as anecdotal writing. I do this in hopes of entertaining because otherwise you might not stick around to get the gist of my opinion.

That said, I sincerely apologize if anything I said in the op offended. That was not my intent. :thumbup:

Nah, it's cool. It did not offend me, per se (I'm not a female) but surely you can see how it would come off that way, right?

Paraphrasing here: "Aw, she can't help arguing about dumb stuff and being illogical...after all, she IS a female. Just lean against the ropes and let her punch herself out."
 

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Nah, it's cool. It did not offend me, per se (I'm not a female) but surely you can see how it would come off that way, right?

Paraphrasing here: "Aw, she can't help arguing about dumb stuff and being illogical...after all, she IS a female. Just lean against the ropes and let her punch herself out."
Nope, I'm talking about figuring out ways to avoid the argument altogether. As for arguing about dumb stuff, we've all been guilty of that. I never said who started the stupid argument.
 

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Nope, I'm talking about figuring out ways to avoid the argument altogether. As for arguing about dumb stuff, we've all been guilty of that. I never said who started the stupid argument.

Fair enough
 

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I think you guys are dead wrong about women. I pick my battles very carefully. I don't argue about stuff that doesn't matter. I discuss, and I don't argue. I approach conflict constructively.

Just saying you are right, I agree when you know they are wrong gets you no where. Moreover women do not respect a man who gives in when she knows she is wrong. I'm not saying don't give her a graceful way out, but don't be a *****. Women hate pussies.

I agree that the long term view is almost always the better course as it pertains to the Cowboys. I wish the Cowboys would trade a 7th round pick every year for a 6th round pick in the following draft and try to flip that pick every year for a higher round pick. In other words, theoretically a 7th round pick would become a first if you wait 6 seasons to make that pick. It's like interest on the borrowed pick.
 

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Nah, it's cool. It did not offend me, per se (I'm not a female) but surely you can see how it would come off that way, right?

Paraphrasing here: "Aw, she can't help arguing about dumb stuff and being illogical...after all, she IS a female. Just lean against the ropes and let her punch herself out."


I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think you are stretching it a bit.
 

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think you are stretching it a bit.

I don't feel like going back and fine tooth combing it. I understand that people from different areas and eras think differently about life and I'm content to just leave it at that.
 

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I don't feel like going back and fine tooth combing it. I understand that people from different areas and eras think differently about life and I'm content to just leave it at that.


Some people also look for a reason to be offended. Those who look for a reason will usually find one.
 

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jday, the older I get...the more I release my own frustrations towards a potential conflict due to just wanting to feel satisfied with the singular most important person to me...my wife. I'm being the fool then, because instead of intensifying our love and directing actions that won't be met harshly, I'm seeking a wrong satisfaction that should be directed to those at my work or actions that I feel should be stood up against...not my wife. I plead guilty here, and work to water the roots of my very best friend in this world. Mom's don't count here...you no longer live with them, but yea, still love them more now.

jday, as to your personal situation, good fortunes there. Is she a football or Cowboys fan? My wife roots for the Cowboys to share with me.

As to our Cowboys, they will be a very competitive team and will play some pretty good defenses this season...that could actually help to mold a young defense that needs players to start standing up on top levels on defense. That excites this fan...and I just aren't able to explain away or categorize away this excitement that will be the Dallas Cowboys of 2017.

Oh, we know that our Cowboys will continue to be the center of unbased and biased media efforts...top shelf teams and popular ones, always are attacked. Not being reasonable is a much easier direction to take. And the thrill of defiance is too great for many characters who hide behind trying to be in the know. Hey, that just hones my ability to look through the wall tossing crap that attempts to proclaim a sports media corner in the media.

The Cowboys biggest question for me as a fan, is just how fast and strong the new 'pups' become an integrated unit in the secondary. There will be gains every where else on the team, save for the nemisis, injury.

I'm looking forward to the ups and downs in play for this growth season, but am able to just ignore some of the riotous fans and media. The football part is just so sweet now...
 

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jday, the older I get...the more I release my own frustrations towards a potential conflict due to just wanting to feel satisfied with the singular most important person to me...my wife. I'm being the fool then, because instead of intensifying our love and directing actions that won't be met harshly, I'm seeking a wrong satisfaction that should be directed to those at my work or actions that I feel should be stood up against...not my wife. I plead guilty here, and work to water the roots of my very best friend in this world. Mom's don't count here...you no longer live with them, but yea, still love them more now.

jday, as to your personal situation, good fortunes there. Is she a football or Cowboys fan? My wife roots for the Cowboys to share with me.

As to our Cowboys, they will be a very competitive team and will play some pretty good defenses this season...that could actually help to mold a young defense that needs players to start standing up on top levels on defense. That excites this fan...and I just aren't able to explain away or categorize away this excitement that will be the Dallas Cowboys of 2017.

Oh, we know that our Cowboys will continue to be the center of unbased and biased media efforts...top shelf teams and popular ones, always are attacked. Not being reasonable is a much easier direction to take. And the thrill of defiance is too great for many characters who hide behind trying to be in the know. Hey, that just hones my ability to look through the wall tossing crap that attempts to proclaim a sports media corner in the media.

The Cowboys biggest question for me as a fan, is just how fast and strong the new 'pups' become an integrated unit in the secondary. There will be gains every where else on the team, save for the nemisis, injury.

I'm looking forward to the ups and downs in play for this growth season, but am able to just ignore some of the riotous fans and media. The football part is just so sweet now...
For some reason here lately I can't seem to keep Dak out of my mouth in terms of what he adds to this team. But if you want to point to another advantage it is that he has removed the "rookie" excuse for not knowing your playbook. Granted, I'm hoping this advantage extends to the defensive side of the ball, but it's not outside the realm of possibility, either.

I can only imagine a rookie trying to rest on that "rookie excuse" and getting way-laid by his coach with the simple response: "Dak did it. You have no excuse, sir. Go get in that playbook and don't you dare try to steal another rep without knowing your job. You are wasting everyone else's time, otherwise...and we don't have time for that!"
 
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For some reason here lately I can't seem to keep Dak out of my mouth in terms of what he adds to this team. But if you want to point to another advantage it is that he has removed the "rookie" excuse for not knowing your playbook. Granted, I'm hoping this advantage extends to the defensive side of the ball, but it's not outside the realm of possibility, either.

I can only imagine a rookie trying to rest on that "rookie excuse" and getting way-laid by his coach with the simple response: "Dak did it. You have no excuse, sir. Go get in that playbook and don't you dare trying to steal another rep without knowing your job. You are wasting everyone else's time, otherwise...and we don't have time for that!"

To their credit, this team is getting a group of 'mojo' driven players, that may just get into the air space of someone trying to produce behind an excuse.

The maximum effective range of an excuse, is ZERO meters.:)
 

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To their credit, this team is getting a group of 'mojo' driven players, that may just get into the air space of someone trying to produce behind an excuse.

The maximum effective range of an excuse, is ZERO meters.:)
Exactly. But that mantra is alot harder to push if you don't have examples to point to. That collection of rookies last year (Dak, Zeke, Maliek, and Brown) removed all excuses from the equation.
 

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Exactly. But that mantra is alot harder to push if you don't have examples to point to. That collection of rookies last year (Dak, Zeke, Maliek, and Brown) removed all excuses from the equation.

These guys aren't newbies to the sport. They either pick up through their own efforts or watch and play against others that elevate their own levels of play. That comes from rubbing noses against the very best in the business. These players either hook up or fall behind, now...I think these dogs run.
 

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Before I ever became a student of the sport football, I was (and still am) a student of human nature. One of the things that I have learned about people is that most are under the mistaken impression that how they react to a given situation is beyond their control. For instance, often times you will hear people say things like, “That pisses me off,” as if to suggest that their reaction was to a certain extent preordained…or by default. The reality, however, is that being pissed off about anything is a choice you make.

Most understand that we are in control of what we say and do, but from my experience, the majority of the people in this world are completely unaware that we also control what we feel. Granted, it is much easier to control what we say and do, but with practice and deliberate focus, we are also masters of our own emotions. I suspect for those who have been married for 5 or more years, you may already know this.

Who you are…who you truly are…is not expressed by how you react to life when it is great and everything is going your way. The true you is expressed through how you react to life when everything is going wrong. How you react to the bad in your world is the definition of you.

Have you ever had a fight with your loved one in the morning over something relatively stupid and insignificant? Following that argument, did you continue to argue with your loved one in your head throughout the day devising a game plan on how you’re going to attack them that evening when you get home? And by the time you got home, because of all that arguing that transpired in your head, were you ready to verbally rip your spouse’s head off the moment you walked through your door because in your mind you two have been arguing all day? Happens to me all of the time.

What I’ve come to realize in 12 years of marriage is that most arguments can be avoided, if I just take in consideration my desired endgame. Take the above scenario where I have just spent the day arguing with my wife in my head. This happened recently, so I am speaking from an actual experience. The truth is, my preferred endgame would be to get along with my wife, regardless of what she said or did in the morning that pissed me off. After all, who wants to spend their night arguing with their significant other?

And the crazy thing is, the majority of the time the argument is about a personality trait or default setting of a female that will not change no matter how many times we argue about it. So why bother arguing about it in the first place? Why not just swallow my pride and act (fake it till I make it) like nothing ever happened, thereby granting everyone else in my house, kids included, permission to enjoy their evening, as well. It’s a win-win-win.

What I’m suggesting here, I suppose you could say, is that we men especially should pick and choose are battles, because the only option many woman have in that multiple choice question of what battles to choose is C: All of the Above.

Know this about your female counterpart; no matter how great of a guy you started out as, their desired endgame is always to make you better. And a big part of their motivation, unfortunately, is how you compare to their friends husbands/boyfriends. Yep, you will forever be in competition with the attributes their friends choose to reveal about their significant other, which can really be a problem if their friends don’t ever complain about their man. You will find appreciation from your girl following their friend’s complaints. And you undoubtedly will find an argument when their friends gushes about the nice things their significant other did…without fail…happens every time.

And should the guy in the movie or show you two are watching cheat on their significant other, you are automatically guilty. And if the guy in the movie should do something or say something sweet, you will likely get the ever-so-popular, “Why don’t you ever say or do things like that?” You really can’t win. Know that now. It will make life a whole lot easier.

Footnote: The right answer to the last question after ten years is: “Because I don’t have that guys writers.” However, before ten years: “You’re right, I could learn something from that guy.” Don’t, whatever you do, ever get those rules twisted.

The universal formula you could potentially garner from gaining this understanding is that there is most of the time a significant difference between choices that provide immediate relief and choices that provide eventual, but longer lasting relief. And that concept applies to just about every walk of life. Typically, the latter approach is the far better approach.

Take the Dallas Cowboys, for instance. Prior to the drafting of Tyron Smith in 2011, the last time the Cowboys addressed offensive line in the first round was in 1981 with the drafting of Howard Richards; that’s exactly 30 years. Of all the positions a team could choose to draft in the first round, offensive line and defensive line are very much long-view selections. Rarely do you find an addition to either of those fronts that hits the ground running immediately. It is a position that requires not just grooming, but often times necessitates physical strengthening to be effective.

Beyond how amazing it is that none of the Cowboys offensive lineman in the early 90’s were actually first round picks, that fact should also serve as an indicator as to how the front office was picking and choosing their battles as it pertains to building a team. One could make the argument, that from the moment Jerry Jones took over up until 2011 when they opted to take Tyron Smith with the 9th overall pick, the Cowboys were in a perpetual state of win-now-mode; every decision the front office collectively made was about the upcoming season, future seasons be-damned.

The problem with that approach should be obvious to anyone who has followed the team for that same amount of time: that method simply doesn’t work in the NFL anymore; hasn’t since the salary cap era began, and likely never will again. The Cowboys in that same time have no championship trophies to justify their decision making. And so, the Cowboys smartly, if not finally, switched up their game plan and started making choices with the future weighing heavily in every argument.

Consider:

Third contracts are now a rarity among players with the Cowboys. Youth seemingly trumps veterans that may offer better immediate returns, but obviously clog up the cap as their overall skills suffer with age over time and typically towards the end of their ridiculous contracts. And, of course, there is the matter of using three first round picks to address the offensive line in a matter of four years from 2011 to 2014, Morris Claiborne being the lone exception in 2012. Those selections were not about the years in which they were drafted, but were all about who the Cowboys wanted to eventually be.

Granted, for it to work, you can’t simply draft any offensive lineman and expect the same results; you absolutely have to pick the right offensive lineman, which the Cowboys clearly did. But it all began with a commitment and understanding that while they may not yield immediate positive results, eventually it would pay dividends in the form of once again being perpetually competitive.

Now, as a result of that philosophy change, the Cowboys have the ability to play the brand of ball control football they are known for. Without the benefit of that early on sacrifice starting in 2011, there is no telling where the Cowboys would be today. But I think we can all agree that without Tyron, Martin and Frederick manning those critical positions, rather than basing our enthusiasm on tangible and credible data, we would be pinning our hopes on a miracle happening…as we did from 1996 to 2011.

Life, relationships, career, sports. All of these can benefit from an understanding of what you want your endgame to be and never losing sight of that in the face of potential immediate returns...like winning the argument of the day with your wife. It might be nice for 15 seconds...but there is nothing nice about sleeping on the couch.

Thoughts?

The Mrs and I are fast approaching the big four Oh, just treat her the same way you treated her when you were courting. Things will work out just fine. My 2 cents worth.

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The Mrs and I are fast approaching the big four Oh, just treat her the same way you treated her when you were courting. Things will work out just fine. My 2 cents worth.

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Easier said than done, but you are absolutely correct. The key to it is always keeping your eyes on the prize... which is getting along regardless of your collective faults. :thumbup:
 
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