The Future is Dan Quinn

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I think it was because Garrett was his guy, and since his overwhelming need is self gratification, Garrett succeeding would have been his personal success. Sick poop.
To Jethro’s credit he came close to fulfilling that on a couple of occasions like in 2014 , 2016 and arguably in 2018 in Divisional Playoff losses .

If we’d of broke thru in either of those heart breaking losses to our 1st championship appearance this era , all bets are off. The Garrett era would be full force and Jethro would have come out glowing.

I think the fact we did come so close is why he stayed the course so long . Remember Jason also won a Coach of the Year award along the way which helped support Jethro’s eye and intent . Even in the end not wanting to part ways when even Jasons biggest supporters knew it was time .
 

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Gawdamighty, the stupidity in the NFL is just rampant.
The NFL follows the wave. Remember how high everyone was on Moore early in season. Thought it was just a matter of where he would go. Didn’t get a single offer. Not even an interview. Lol

At that time after 2007 season many thought Garrett could have been the next great thing . That changes quickly after 2008 season and beyond in Wade’s tenure.

But the fact he was swept up so quickly after released in Dallas was surprising and represents his attraction offensively . At least at that time . Hard to say what the future in the league holds for him now. I always thought his expertise would have been better served in front office . But I suspect if he’s intent on coaching again at least as a HC it will probably be in NCAA.
 

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To Jethro’s credit he came close to fulfilling that on a couple of occasions like in 2014 , 2016 and arguably in 2018 in Divisional Playoff losses .

If we’d of broke thru in either of those heart breaking losses to our 1st championship appearance this era , all bets are off. The Garrett era would be full force and Jethro would have come out glowing.

I think the fact we did come so close is why he stayed the course so long . Remember Jason also won a Coach of the Year award along the way which helped support Jethro’s eye and intent . Even in the end not wanting to part ways when even Jasons biggest supporters knew it was time .
I don't think we were really that close. In the end, poor D almost always shuts us down. Jerry just doesn't understand Defense.
 

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The NFL follows the wave. Remember how high everyone was on Moore early in season. Thought it was just a matter of where he would go. Didn’t get a single offer. Not even an interview. Lol

At that time after 2007 season many thought Garrett could have been the next great thing . That changes quickly after 2008 season and beyond in Wade’s tenure.

But the fact he was swept up so quickly after released in Dallas was surprising and represents his attraction offensively . At least at that time . Hard to say what the future in the league holds for him now. I always thought his expertise would have been better served in front office . But I suspect if he’s intent on coaching again at least as a HC it will probably be in NCAA.
You know, as zealous fans, we watch and analyze everything w/ a fine tooth comb. Garrett's numbers were always good due to the type of O he ran, but there were always huge holes in his O. Romo bailed out his long developing routes w/ no one getting open for years by scrambling. And then Murray and then Zeke bailed him out again. We knew, but that's only because we watch every play so closely.
 

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You know, as zealous fans, we watch and analyze everything w/ a fine tooth comb. Garrett's numbers were always good due to the type of O he ran, but there were always huge holes in his O. Romo bailed out his long developing routes w/ no one getting open for years by scrambling. And then Murray and then Zeke bailed him out again. We knew, but that's only because we watch every play so closely.

And the world saw how things went in New York when he didn’t have somebody bailing him out.
 

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Clearly last year was a big boost for this defense, going into last season few predicted the defense would play we well as they did. Cowboys ranked 7th overall on defense, 7th in points allowed 13th in sacks and 1st in take aways with 34. Yet this defense must continue to grow and improve especially vs the run but overall this defense is much improved over what we have seen in a long while.
 

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I don't think we were really that close. In the end, poor D almost always shuts us down. Jerry just doesn't understand Defense.
I’m taking about close to championship game appearance not winning it and or going to a SB.
 

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You know, as zealous fans, we watch and analyze everything w/ a fine tooth comb. Garrett's numbers were always good due to the type of O he ran, but there were always huge holes in his O. Romo bailed out his long developing routes w/ no one getting open for years by scrambling. And then Murray and then Zeke bailed him out again. We knew, but that's only because we watch every play so closely.
My hunch is Garrett’s attraction to NY was his development of Romo and Prescott.

Over the years it was sometimes difficult to decipher if it was the play calling or the execution which foiled us.

Coaching can be over rated and under rated pending much on the talent . It’s mostly about assembling the talent . When you have it they can make you look good. When you don’t can look bad.

We’ve seen too many great coaches not have same level success not only every year but at different venues . The key is can they build or rebuild it meaning assembling the talent .

Great coaches can maximize lesser talent but only so far. At some point greater talent usually wins out.
 

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Clearly last year was a big boost for this defense, going into last season few predicted the defense would play we well as they did. Cowboys ranked 7th overall on defense, 7th in points allowed 13th in sacks and 1st in take aways with 34. Yet this defense must continue to grow and improve especially vs the run but overall this defense is much improved over what we have seen in a long while.

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It all comes down to stopping the run consistently. If they can do that, the defense can be elite, and this team might go far.
 

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It all comes down to stopping the run consistently. If they can do that, the defense can be elite, and this team might go far.

No doubt that is the one weakness this team must overcome. To be able to handle teams who play more physical style of football. Dallas will get tested this season with games like Tenn and Derrick Henry, Tenn will run that ball down our throat unless we can show the ability to stop him.
 

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No doubt that is the one weakness this team must overcome. To be able to handle teams who play more physical style of football. Dallas will get tested this season with games like Tenn and Derrick Henry, Tenn will run that ball down our throat unless we can show the ability to stop him.

I think the defense will get tested early and often in that area. Maybe not week one, but soon thereafter. People saw what San Francisco did.
 

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I think the defense will get tested early and often in that area. Maybe not week one, but soon thereafter. People saw what San Francisco did.

I'm sure Tampa will try to run Leonard Fournette on us and will continue if we can't stop him.
 

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It all comes down to stopping the run consistently. If they can do that, the defense can be elite, and this team might go far.
I'm excited about this defense and what Quinn may do with the group of rushers we have....different looks, etc.

I think Sam Williams is going to have a lot of early success due to scheme.

That said, as I said when we were peaking last year, any team that has the discipline to stay with the run against us will probably have success.

That's exactly why we are a completely different team when playing with a lead.
 

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I'm excited about this defense and what Quinn may do with the group of rushers we have....different looks, etc.

I think Sam Williams is going to have a lot of early success due to scheme.

That said, as I said when we were peaking last year, any team that has the discipline to stay with the run against us will probably have success.

That's exactly why we are a completely different team when playing with a lead.

Exactly right. And why things would ‘snowball’ toward huge wins when we got those leads. Opponents forced to be one dimensional playing catch-up play right into our defense’s hands.

But when circumstances are reversed, the results are nearly as good.
 

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Exactly right. And why things would ‘snowball’ toward huge wins when we got those leads. Opponents forced to be one dimensional playing catch-up play right into our defense’s hands.

But when circumstances are reversed, the results are nearly as good.
I want to believe that Ridgeway is the big savior on this, but think about that for a moment....that's tough to count on.

I'm more hoping that guys like Bohanna, OO, Gallimore (dare I say Hill playing for a contract) step things up.

Funny because it's a passing league, but if you can't stop the run you're sunk. Many times teams handle that for us and give up on it voluntarily.....the first Philly game last year was a perfect example. Good running team but they quit on it early and got smoked. Once down, it's over.
 

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I want to believe that Ridgeway is the big savior on this, but think about that for a moment....that's tough to count on.

I'm more hoping that guys like Bohanna, OO, Gallimore (dare I say Hill playing for a contract) step things up.

Funny because it's a passing league, but if you can't stop the run you're sunk. Many times teams handle that for us and give up on it voluntarily.....the first Philly game last year was a perfect example. Good running team but they quit on it early and got smoked. Once down, it's over.


I think it’s going to take a concerted effort from everyone. Coaches, scheme, players.
 

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You dreamers that think Dan Quinn's stay in Dallas goes beyond the coming season are delusional.
 

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You dreamers that think Dan Quinn's stay in Dallas goes beyond the coming season are delusional.

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You dreamers that think Dan Quinn's stay in Dallas goes beyond the coming season are delusional.
As a DC, yep the clock is ticking there.

I can very much see a scenario in 2022 where the defense is awesome, the offense sputters and the end results are more of the same for the team.

In that case you either promote Quinn or lose him and stay with the MM/Moore combo, which makes little sense.

I think it all depends on what Sean Payton wants to do, like it or not. I very, very much think the next HC here is Payton or Quinn.
 
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