The great big Jason Garrett Stinks thread

baj1dallas

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I thought the playcalling was pretty good. Some timely draws, the QB sneak for a TD, couple of good pass plays, nice heavy running. Overall the offense should go as far as Romo can take 'em.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2955892 said:
still, Garrett's playcalling was enough to win the game

Romo just ****ed it up

no.a good OC will know when his QB has gone off the reservation.
 

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Long time Cowboy fan but I said before the game that the Cowboys are a dumb team. Romo can't manage a game, Garrett can't call a game, Adams makes stupid penalties, Phillips can't seem to get Jones the ball more or instill discipline in his players.
 
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The Giants were banking on Romo's turnovers in the passing game and he delivered fail. Garrett's play calling baffled me at times...
 

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Just not our week? I don't know what else to say...people don't read my well thought out posts so I'll just say this:

It's Week 2. There are 14 games left.
 

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Ren;2955849 said:
I was saying it all offseason, we didn't fix anything when we kept these coaches. Garrett is a huge ******* problem for us, We had our best rushing game in years and Garrett puts the ball in the hands of a struggling QB when it's time to put them game out of reach :bang2:


Bingo.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2955824 said:
I've been a huge critic of Garrett recently, but he really has impressed me the last 6 quarters of football. He wasn't the problem, #9 was and I think the Cowboys should start looking at possible ways to find a replacement for him. Of course, you need a reasonable trade, but I don't know how many chances you can give Tony.



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Garrett most definitely was the problem in the last two minutes of the first half.

Dallas got the ball at their own 12 with 1:46 to go. The Giants had I believe only a single timeout remaining. Conventional wisdom says you run the ball and go to the locker room with the lead. Instead we throw three straight passes deep in our own territory, the last of which is intercepted. Are you freaking kidding me? That on a night when even a blind man could see that Romo didn't have his "A" game?

Even if Romo hadn't been clearly off tonight, it was poor strategy. The odds of driving 88 yards for a score in under two minutes are poor at best, and as we saw the risk of a turnover deep in your own territory is too great.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2955873 said:
When the run is killing the Giants, why stop and start throwing? Terrible by Mr. Garrett.

You gotta keep the defense honest, that's what helped get the run going in the first place. But you need a QB who understands that you need to protect the ball because you have a running game that is gaining yards in chunks. Unfortunately our QB doesn't know that and breaking up with Hollywood starlets isn't the answer.




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Yakuza Rich;2956128 said:
You gotta keep the defense honest, that's what helped get the run going in the first place. But you need a QB who understands that you need to protect the ball because you have a running game that is gaining yards in chunks. Unfortunately our QB doesn't know that and breaking up with Hollywood starlets isn't the answer.




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Excellent post. Breaking up with the Hollywood starlets is the reason we lost, imho.
 

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coogrfan;2956124 said:
Garrett most definitely was the problem in the last two minutes of the first half.

Dallas got the ball at their own 12 with 1:46 to go. The Giants had I believe only a single timeout remaining. Conventional wisdom says you run the ball and go and go to the locker room with the lead. Instead we throw three straight passes deep in our own territory, the last of which is intercepted. Are you freaking kidding me? That on a night when even a blind man could see that Romo didn't have his "A" game?

Even if Romo hadn't been clearly off tonight, it was poor strategy. The odds of driving 88 yards for a score in under two minutes are poor at best, and as we saw the risk of a turnover deep in your own territory is too great.

You're at home and you have plenty of time to score some points. Conventional wisdom says to try and move the ball early on and if it doesn't work, run some time off the clock on 3rd down. The G-Men will either waste a TO after 3rd down or later on...boom it deep with McBriar. There's a reason why it's considered important for a QB to be able to run a 2 minute drill. Our QB should be able to do so before the half.

We had a perfect pass to Crayton nullified by Flo's brilliant penalty. Then Romo misses Witten wide open on roughly a 7 yard pass which causes the fluke INT.

We scored 31 points with Garrett's 'bad playcalling' with a QB who stunk up the World's Greatest Stadium. I don't think the playcaller is the problem in this scenario.





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Someone else made a good point.....if we were the Steelers, we would have run the ball 45 times and passed 15 if it were obvious that the passing game was struggling.

Instead, he calls more passing plays than runs when it was obvious they couldn't stop the run and we couldn't pass.

Who's the play-caller again?
 

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Is Barber OK? After Felix scored, I was hoping we'd get the ball back and even without the closer, we could've used Felix and Tashard to run the clock out. I will not sleep well tonight.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2955892 said:
still, Garrett's playcalling was enough to win the game

Romo just ****ed it up

He continually kept putting the ball and the game into the hands of his signal caller who was struggling mightily when he shouldn't have.

He had a trio of backs that were dominating the game yet he stopped feeding it to them during multiple key moments. Three of those moments resulted in turnovers which lost the game.

Again only one person ever stopped the Cowboy running attack tonight and his name was Jason Garrett.
 

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Awful hard to blame Garrett people. You need balance, the QB just blew it, period.

The Giants were missing two DT's and then Tuck got hurt. They were missing 2 of their top 3 CB's and both safeties were playing hurt. You have to go after that some.

The OL was pretty damn good. The run game was good. I saw people open on pass plays. The problem was the guy throwing the ball, nothing else.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2956178 said:
You're at home and you have plenty of time to score some points. Conventional wisdom says to try and move the ball early on and if it doesn't work, run some time off the clock on 3rd down. The G-Men will either waste a TO after 3rd down or later on...boom it deep with McBriar. There's a reason why it's considered important for a QB to be able to run a 2 minute drill. Our QB should be able to do so before the half.

We had a perfect pass to Crayton nullified by Flo's brilliant penalty. Then Romo misses Witten wide open on roughly a 7 yard pass which causes the fluke INT.

We scored 31 points with Garrett's 'bad playcalling' with a QB who stunk up the World's Greatest Stadium. I don't think the playcaller is the problem in this scenario.





YAKUZA

Sometimes an offensive coordinator has to realize that his job isn't just scoring points. It's also about managing field position, time, and down and distance.

The Giants only had 1 timeout left(according to the gamebook NY used their second with 9:53 left in the 2nd qtr). With less than 2 minutes to go in the half there was no way they could prevent Dallas from running out the clock if we just ran the ball three times.

Those points, needlessly and foolishly given to the Giants, were the difference in the game.
 

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Screw The Hall;2956238 said:
He continually kept putting the ball and the game into the hands of his signal caller who was struggling mightily when he shouldn't have.

He had a trio of backs that were dominating the game yet he stopped feeding it to them during multiple key moments. Three of those moments resulted in turnovers which lost the game.

Again only one person ever stopped the Cowboy running attack tonight and his name was Jason Garrett.

Bingo. If you know your QB is having an off night, don't ask him to throw when deep in your own territory. That's Football 101.
 

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I thought Red had a great game. A couple of series he tried to get the passing game going, who wouldn't?

When it didn't work, he went back to the ground. But at some point, you do have a Quarter Back, and you MUST throw the ball.
 

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coogrfan;2956256 said:
Sometimes an offensive coordinator has to realize that his job isn't just scoring points. It's also about managing field position, time, and down and distance.

DING DING DING!

Hammer meet nail! :hammer:
 

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Man we better thank our lucky stars we did not let the next offensive genius in Garrett get away.
 
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