The head coach killer

[Bobhaze]

Every week there’s a new thread about some hot shot college or pro head coach that someone thinks would be a great head coach here. OMG, the lists are almost endless and they usually contain people that Jerry would never hire because they would steal his spotlight, or they are people that would never lower their standards to work for a meddling fool like Jerry.

Have you ever noticed that when a head coach comes to work for Jerry, their NFL career as a HEAD COACH is toast? If you look at the list of 7 former Cowboys head coaches under Jerral Wayne Jones, only two went on to be a HC again in the NFL, and neither were successful.

Jerry is a head coach killer. After working for Jerry, his former HCs are never the same or better. Here’s what I mean- Let’s look at the 7 former HCs we’ve had under Jerry and how their career went after leaving Big D:

1. Jimmy Johnson- left Dallas in ‘94- became HC of Dolphins from 96-98, had two winning seasons and won a playoff game but was never that great again. Retired from coaching.

2. Barry Switzer- HC here from 94-97. Jerry fired him after 97 season and he has never been a HC again.

3. Chan Gailey- HC here 98-99. One winning season, zero playoff wins. Was not hired again as an NFL HC until 2010 in Buffalo. He was fired there in 2012 with no success.

4. Dave Campo- HC here from 2000-2002. Three straight losing seasons. Never hired as an NFL head coach again.

5. Bill Parcells- HC here 2003-06. The HOF coach restocked the talent pool here but despite making playoffs twice in his tenure, never won a playoff game. Parcells has never coached again after leaving here.

6. Wade Phillips- HC here for 2007-half of 2010- had three winning seasons, but won one playoff game with what was the best talent we had had in a long time. Phillips has remained a good DC, but has never been hired as a HC again in NFL.

7. Jason Garrett- HC from mid 2010- present. Two playoff appearances in 8 seasons. You know the story. Raise your hand if you think Garrett has a future again as an NFL HC. I’m not raising mine.

It appears that working for Jerry is not a boost for a guy’s head coaching career in the NFL. He’s a head coach killer. Jerry is a “King Midas” when it comes to making money. He’s the opposite when it comes to his on field product.

So again...why would an up and coming star coach want to come and work for this 76 year old meddler who still thinks he’s a football guy? Or why would a formerly successful old school guy want to come here and put up with the circus Jerry loves?

I believe unless Garrett pulls a miracle this season, which is extremely doubtful, he’s gone at seasons end. My hope is Jerry allows Stephen hire the next HC. I’m not a huge fan of SJ but at least it’s not the “curse of JJ”. Maybe SJ will reverse the coach killing curse of the last two decades.

Your thoughts?

 

[JayFord]

Jerry isnt a head coach killer

Most of those guys listed were always considered better coordinators than head coaches

 

[Batman1980]

Jerry isnt a head coach killer

Most of those guys listed were always considered better coordinators than head coaches

Jerry kinda is and isn't, he has a tendency to hire yes men that don't have the right stuff to be a good coach in the NFL. Sean Payton and Mike Zimmer could've been exceptions but Jerrah either drove them off or didn't want them to run the show.

 

[visionary]

My thoughts are that Jerry and Stephen and Garrett are franchise FAN killers

 

[JayFord]

Jerry kinda is and isn't, he has a tendency to hire yes men that don't have the right stuff to be a good coach in the NFL. Sean Payton and Mike Zimmer could've been exceptions but Jerrah either drove them off or didn't want them to run the show.

Just the fact we had mike zimmer and sean payton and ended up with Garrett really says alot

And not in a good way

 

[Praxit]

...seeing it for what it is, JG must be family or has ties with Jerry Org. Any other GM would have jetted his *** long time ago.

Looking at this from a historical pattern output. Jerry is a failed football guru, like Manson was a failed musician. So in order to cover those weaknesses, they resort to something else that will give them that same mental stimulant. The outputs can be dire.

 

[Batman1980]

My thoughts are that Jerry and Stephen and Garrett are franchise FAN killers

There's people who still think all 3 of them are doing a good job and it just boggles my mind.

 

[Diehardblues]

No one was hired since Jimmy except for Gailey who needed several years of success at Georgia Tech before a failed return to NFL at Buffalo.

You dont come here unless no one else will hire you or possibly trying to revamp a career where again no one else is knocking on the door. Cowboys are a graveyard for HC’s since Jimmy.

And why as sad as it is for many Cowboy fans , Garrett is probably as good of puppet as we can expect. We need to focus on how we can prop him up.

 

[aria]

I wish Jerry would kill the GM.

 

[Batman1980]

No one was hired since except for Gailey who needed several years of success at Georgia Tech before a failed return to NFL at Buffalo.

You dont come here unless no one else will hire you. Cowboys are a graveyard for HC’s since Jimmy.

And how many of them besides Parcells (who sadly was just a crutch) would've been a HC anywhere else? Jerrah doesn't even see how bad he is at picking proper HCs.

 

[Jarv]

My thoughts are that Jerry and Stephen and Garrett are franchise FAN killers

Lol...POST OF THE DAY!

 

[ZekeTrain]

The thought of what might have been with Romo had Payton been the next HC is enough to make you cry.

 

[Diehardblues]

And how many of them besides Parcells (who sadly was just a crutch) would've been a HC anywhere else? Jerrah doesn't even see how bad he is at picking proper HCs.

That’s because Jerry doesn’t have a lot of respect for HC’s. Plus his personal ego and ambitions won’t attract another strong HC.

It is what it is. But fans continue their quest.

 

[erod]

...seeing it for what it is, JG must be family or has ties with Jerry Org. Any other GM would have jetted his *** long time ago.

Looking at this from a historical pattern output. Jerry is a failed football guru, like Manson was a failed musician. So in order to cover those weaknesses, they resort to something else that will give them that same mental stimulant. The outputs can be dire.

 

[Doomsday]

JG is young enough, he has a chance to get another gig down the road, but sadly I don't think he is going any where for a while.

Linehan and Marinelli (retiring) will probably be gone next year. Richard will become DC and a new OC will be brought in.

 

[tyke1doe]

I wouldn't put Jimmy or Parcells in that category.
Jimmy caught lightning in a bottle. He came before this current iteration of Free Agency. It was easier to shape the team into his image. It was harder when he went to Miami because it was Marino's team. Jimmy wanted to trade Marino, but that wasn't going to happen because Marino was Miami. Jimmy did as best as he could in Miami where Marino was really the coach. Sounds familiar?
With Parcells, remember, he did get us to the playoffs with Quincy Carter as quarterback. But Parcells was old by then. He had no more energy to coach and likely agreed to coach the Cowboys because it was the Cowboys, a historic, ironic franchise. Anyone with eyes could see he was on his last coaching legs.
The other guys were just average Joes. The main criterion they possessed was that they were so desperate for a head coaching job they would let Jerry do and say whatever he wanted to.
Alpha Males aren't going to allow that. Beta Males will. And that's the history of Cowboys coaches during the Jerry Jones era.

 

[tyke1doe]

in the year 2728.

 

[visionary]

The thought of what might have been with Romo had Payton been the next HC is enough to make you cry.

Yes that would have been a great combination

 

[Miller]

Crying

 

[Batman1980]

Well he'll get a chance to see his championship HC against team that was inches away from the Super Bowl last year on Sunday.