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[Hoofbite]

Is this supposed to be some sort of revelation?

We all know Tony puts up great numbers. His only problem has been he seems to come up short towards the end of the season.

 

[THUMPER]

But Michael Irvin said he needs to shut up.

Every player needs to shut up and just play the game.

 

[theebs]

No he didn't. The STEALERS won 4 Super Bowls in 6 years.

When the Cowboys players around Romo start playing like those Stealers teams did with Bradshaw then we will start winning championships. Romo is a MUCH better QB than Bradshaw ever was but the players around him are nowhere near what they were on those 70s Stealers teams.

What is it with you people anyway that you can't see that? :bang2:

Great QBs don't win SBs, great TEAMS do!

maybe our offensive linemen all need to become drug users and coke heads like the steelers offensive line...throw in some steroids too.

 

[THUMPER]

maybe our offensive linemen all need to become drug users and coke heads like the steelers offensive line...throw in some steroids too.

That might help some.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That might help some.

Toss in countless questionable play calls going their way, and BAM! 6 time Super Bowl champions.

 

[THUMPER]

Toss in countless questionable play calls going their way, and BAM! 6 time Super Bowl champions.

That's why they are the STEALERS. :steelers:

 

[theebs]

That might help some.

Geez, relax what is with the emoticon.

I am poking fun at the steelers lineman who were cokeheads and steroid users.

God, I am beginning to hate this place with a passion.

 

[Ren]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_active.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

nuff said

you wanna post some links for December and January stats too? :laugh1:

 

[theebs]

you wanna post some links for December and January stats too? :laugh1:

Thats for the whole season.

 

[Ren]

Thats for the whole season.

I know that, but they're kinda empty when he has yet to play well in the last qtr of the season. He's an awesome fantasy QB for the first 3 months though

 

[BrassCowboy]

Terry Bradshaw won 4 SB's in 6 years with a 70 passer rating.

nuff said

So what you are saying is that the QB is not as important as the team?

 

[BrassCowboy]

No he didn't. The STEALERS won 4 Super Bowls in 6 years.

When the Cowboys players around Romo start playing like those Stealers teams did with Bradshaw then we will start winning championships. Romo is a MUCH better QB than Bradshaw ever was but the players around him are nowhere near what they were on those 70s Stealers teams.

What is it with you people anyway that you can't see that? :bang2:

Great QBs don't win SBs, great TEAMS do!

wow, I thought I was alone in thinking it took a team to win in this league.

You can't just throw a younger Tom Brady in as qb of the Detroit Lions and expect them to win championships. I was gonna do the reverse on this theory to balance it out, but all i can think of is Trent Dilfer and The baltimore Ravens.

 

[theebs]

I know that, but they're kinda empty when he has yet to play well in the last qtr of the season. He's an awesome fantasy QB for the first 3 months though

Breakdown when he played bad for me.

Breakdown how that poor play resulted in us losing in december.

I will give you the steelers game in 08, I think that was his poorest performance, but hey it was against the defense some were calling better than the 85 bears and it was on the road in the cold....so you know that happens.

Other than that, give me the games and the plays where he played so poor we lost directly because of him.

Lets review all of the games he has played in december and january.

06
At the giants.....romo makes incredible play to setup gw field goal.

New Orleans...Romo the offense are a victim of some of the poorest defense some of us have ever seen....not sure how he is to blame in that one...He could have thrown for 450 yards and 5 tds that night and we would have lost.

@ Atlanta....Romo was spot on and we got a strong defensive performance in a big win.

Philly....Romos play is up and down, he missed a td throw and the defense has absolutely no energy and gets run over by a team that can barely run the ball, at home no less. Again, The defense was poorer that day than romo and had romo put some more points on the board we still lose because the defense was bad.

Detroit. Romos play is up and down, The defense is awful. They couldnt stop kitna and the lions offense to save their lives. Romo had a fumble and a pick that was big, but he made up for it by moving the ball all game and scoring....But romo didnt give up 39..again the defense.

Playoffs Seattle- Romo the qb did enough to win the game in the critical moments, unfortunately the fumbled snap and the missed tackle on the next play cost us a game we should have won. You can blame romo, but not romo the qb.

07

at detroit......Whole team was lethargic and looked unprepared after a very emotonial win against gb. Romo fumbled, as did barber and witten in critical situations but they all did enough when they had to with drives at the end of the half and the game to win....The defense, again run over and gave up big plays in critical situations. We won that game because of a missed field goal....

Philadelphia. Early on romo misses owens for what would have been a huge opening TD, then sam hurd drops an easy pitch and catch for a first down. Romo getz bltized to death and is getting hit all day, hurts his thumb and his accuracy suffered, missed a TD to owens. This is a game you can say romo played a big part in the loss, I have no problem with that, as long as you mention he was getting his teeth kicked in and the running game went backwards because of the poor line play. Defense played well like the steelers game in 08 and did enough to win.

at carolina....Romo was terrific and the offense had 250 yards plus in the first half and they jumped out to a big lead, the owens injury forced them to chang it up and try and run it out in the second half....and they did.. The defense almost let it get away with matt moore taking snaps.

at washington...this game is what it is. A pouring rain freezing day where the team wanted no part of it. The defense played well and so did romo, guys were just dropping balls all over the place on him and the line did a terrible job of blocking for the running game. The defense played well for a while and then just got beat up. Dont see how anyone can blame romo here.

PLayoffs nyg- SPecial teams and the defense not getting critical stops at huge moments like right before the half after romo took the team up the field for a 90 yard drive to score were the difference. If crayton finishes his route romo is a cowboy legend with a classic finish, but he didnt so guys like you bag on romo. There are countless mistakes in this game from people on this roster, romo missed an open owens for a TD and that is the only mistake I can say he made. That was after fasano dropped a ball he should have caught on the same drive for a TD already.

08

At pittsburgh...I already said, this is probably tonys weakest performance to me....he was responsible for the loss by making mistakes late in the game. Its one thing to make mistakes and its another to make a mistake that cost your team points. He did that.

NYG..Romo was excellent in this game to me. He was all heart. It was like he was playing with no offensive line and he still hung in there without making mistakes and won the game. This game the defense played terrific, and that is the recipe...get terrific defense and do not make tony have to score a ton of points late in the game.

Baltimore. This is one of the games with the biggest misconceptions to me.
Romo and the offense put 24 on the board and just needed the ball one more time but the defense in critical moments couldnt deliver. Romo made some mistakes, but that is to be expected against a complex defense for the first time. He did enough to win and just needed the ball in his hands with a chance to win it, but he never got that chance.

Philly. This was a terrible game from everyone on the roster. The defense was dreadful, the offense was dreadful and the special teams were beyond dreadful. The tone was set when the eagles took the ball on the opening drive and shoved it down the defenses throat. Then pacman jones and marion barber fumbled resulting in points that turned it into a blowout...then romo fumbled when the game was just a laugher. Blaming romo for this game is completely misplaced.


Go ahead and call me a homer. I dont care, I am standing by the guy and I hope all cowboys fans need to do that when this season starts. I think the fans should be behind this team 110% this year because the numbers of the people in the stands could really elevate this team. Bickering over nonsense like his december numbers is ridiculous.

 

[MONT17]

Great QBs have single handedly won playoff games b4... Romo has done the opposite, we are still waiting for the 5 TD game in January!

 

[BrassCowboy]

Great QBs have single handedly won playoff games b4... Romo has done the opposite, we are still waiting for the 5 TD game in January!

ok, gotta hear this but when did Romo EVER do the opposite. You imply Romo single handedly lost a game for us before, I say when?

I can point out one game from the top of my head that Romo had a real bad day (Buffalo game of 2007) but yet it was Romo that was also responsible for turning that around and winning it in the end. Now last year (2008) there was the Pittsburgh game, but if I remember correctly, the whole team collapsed.

In my mind though, last year does not count because if you watched the year progress, TO could not get open but yet TO wanted the ball more and more with all his whining on the sideline that even I wanted to overlook. The offensive gameplan was changed to TOTALLY try and make TO happy causing forced balls his way and less team involvement.

 

[theebs]

ok, gotta hear this but when did Romo EVER do the opposite. You imply Romo single handedly lost a game for us before, I say when?

I am waiting for that response to.

I want to know when he had his Donovan mcnabb to rondi barber to lose a game moment.

I guess these guys will say the snap in seattle, but that has nothing to do with the quarterback. That was just the flukiest of fluke plays.

 

[THUMPER]

Great QBs have single handedly won playoff games b4... Romo has done the opposite, we are still waiting for the 5 TD game in January!

Bwaaaaahaaaaahaaaahaaaahaaa!!!!!

You win the dumbest statement award for the year!

This ain't fantasy football we're talking about here man.

 

[birdwells1]

Not a huge Romo fan but am a huge Cowboys fan. Romo just needs to come out this year and have a solid season from start to finish. Then, the Romo supporters won't have to pull up stats and breakdown every play of the games to justify his status as a top 5 QB. Ben R, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Warner, and Aikman don't need stats to justify thier status because they have won in Dec and Jan. You wont see this posted on a Pittsburg message board. From start to finish (and it doesn't have to be the SB) and then the critic can take some time off, until then y'all will be working overtime.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'm a huge Romo supporter but I'm having a hard time sifting through all the excuse makers and blind haters.

 

[Mansta54]

no it doesn't. you post a stat where Romo and his 2 and a half years is up there with guys who have played 10+ years. when Romo plays 10+ and if he still ranks up there with those guys than bust out that stat. until than it's a joke and all it's good for is a laugh cause you think it means something.

Dude you have serious issues...