The MNF game featured some awful QB play.

[Ren]

as much as it pains me to praise a skins player I'd say Campbell played pretty well last night, McNabb on the other hand...

 

[Ren]

Imagine what a nuclear meltdown it would be if they'd actually start Kolb after the whining about drafting him. As long as McNabb's upright, he's starting.

Guess we should all be thankful the eagles value McNabbs personal pride more then winning.
Just keep doing what you're doing Philly no complaints here

 

[SultanOfSix]

I don't think McNabb is a bad QB at all. I think he's overrated, but he can be quite good. The lucky thing for the 'Skins is they caught him at a good time. He's returning from a season ending injury and has to get back from being rusty.

I'm seeing a better McNabb when we play them and when the 'Skins play the Eagles the second time around, barring injury.

Campbell hasn't impressed me that much. He'll hit the long ball every once in a while, then be way off on shorter passes. I'm surprised teams haven't taken advantage of his slow, wind up motion.

Let's also not forget that Dawkins was out for a significant amount of time in the game last night.

 

[cobra]

Campbell is pretty easy diagnose.

If he develops good decision making and some accuracy/touch to go with his great arm and athleticism, then he will be a good-very good QB for some time.

If he does not develop good decision making and some accuracy/touch to go with his great arm and athleticism, then he will be a carbon copy of Quincy Carter.

So it all comes down to whether he will develop good decision making and some accuracy/touch. He hasn't developed them yet, but he may be getting better. It's not a guarentee he will develop them, so the jury is still out. But it if doesn't improve in those areas, he will toast.

 

[Doomsday101]

Campbell is pretty easy diagnose.

If he develops good decision making and some accuracy/touch to go with his great arm and athleticism, then he will be a good-very good QB for some time.

If he does not develop good decision making and some accuracy/touch to go with his great arm and athleticism, then he will be a carbon copy of Quincy Carter.

So it all comes down to whether he will develop good decision making and some accuracy/touch. He hasn't developed them yet, but he may be getting better. It's not a guarentee he will develop them, so the jury is still out. But it if doesn't improve in those areas, he will toast.

Campbell better stop staring down his WR because he telling the DB's exactly where he is going with the ball. I’m not seeing him look guys off at all he stares right at the target and throws and when he delays he gets picked.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You know why they looked bad?

Because we've gotten used to seeing Romo.

 

[zrinkill]

You know why they looked bad?

Because we've gotten used to seeing Romo.

 

[AtlCB]

Anybody who discounts Campbell as a legit starting QB in the NFL isn't being objective. He made his ninth start last night, and while he missed some,, he made some nice throws too. How good he really is remains to be seen.

McNubb, on the other hand, looked like a lot more of the same. He's never been accurate, and now that he's lost his wheels, he looks way less than average. If he hits just one or two more wide open receivers last night, the Feagles win.

I guess that I'm one of the people who are not objective. Campbell may develop into a quality starting QB in this league, but he isn't a qualitly starting QB right now. The only reason Campbell and the Commanders won that game is because McChunkySoup was horrendous and Coach GoodyearBlimp didn't run the ball much.

 

[AtlCB]

I agree with all accounts. Some these dime store or shadetree QB experts need to get a grip.

It doesn't take a QB expert to know that a 66.3 QB rating after two games this year isn't what a team is looking for by their starting QB. That ranking lands Campbell as the 31st best QB ranking. Only four current starters are worse (Leinart 66.2, McNair 63.7, Grossman 55.1 , Tavaris Jackson 40.0 )

 

[riggo]

It doesn't take a QB expert to know that a 66.3 QB rating after two games this year isn't what a team is looking for by their starting QB. That ranking lands Campbell as the 31st best QB ranking. Only four current starters are worse (Leinart 66.2, McNair 63.7, Grossman 55.1 , Tavaris Jackson 40.0 )

while i'd like to see campbell light it up- a la romo- i'm satisfied with what i've seen. thats not to say that his misses dont drive me nuts. i let out an UUUGGGHHH more than once last night. but he shows enough to make me believe that he'll get better.

i know the boys ended up scoring a bunch on miami, but that game was close til about 20 minutes to play. that is to say that i think miami is still a quality D, as is philly, and its a credit to dallas that you guys scored as many points as you did.

also, campbell hasnt gotten into a rhythm with moss yet. they hooked up on that one big pass, but moss has dropped at least 3 balls this season that hit him in the hands. thats gotta stop. one thing i'll say about moss since he's been here is that he's had good hands generally.

campbell has a chance next week to make some big plays vs a struggling D. gibbs will probably want to run it down their throats, but that should only leave some space open for big throws.

 

[Bull Frog]

also, campbell hasnt gotten into a rhythm with moss yet. they hooked up on that one big pass, but moss has dropped at least 3 balls this season that hit him in the hands. thats gotta stop. one thing i'll say about moss since he's been here is that he's had good hands generally.

It will be interesting to watch this year. Every time I thought Campbell would get on a roll he'd miss badly then make a nice throw. I think it's way too early to make a judgement on his career. The Giants will provide the chance for him to open it up. Right now is best weapon is the defense and the running game. He hasn't been asked to come from behind or carry the offense. This Commanders team reminds of the 2002 Cowboys with better RB's. They will play ball control offense, nothing exciting. You guys will be in nailbitters all year. Keep the Pepto and Rolaids handy.

 

[VACowboy]

It doesn't take a QB expert to know that a 66.3 QB rating after two games this year isn't what a team is looking for by their starting QB. That ranking lands Campbell as the 31st best QB ranking. Only four current starters are worse (Leinart 66.2, McNair 63.7, Grossman 55.1 , Tavaris Jackson 40.0 )

It doesn't take an expert to know that stats don't tell the whole story. Nobody here is saying Campbell is Tom Brady. But if you watched him play in his NINTH start, you saw him play with decent poise while making some very nice throws. Did he miss some easy ones? Yep. Does he need to make quicker reads and better decisions? You bet. But after nine starts, he definitely looks like he has the potential to be a quality starter in the league.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It doesn't take an expert to know that stats don't tell the whole story. Nobody here is saying Campbell is Tom Brady. But if you watched him play in his NINTH start, you saw him play with decent poise while making some very nice throws. Did he miss some easy ones? Yep. Does he need to make quicker reads and better decisions? You bet. But after nine starts, he definitely looks like he has the potential to be a quality starter in the league.

I thought he had a few nice throws... they dropped some on him. I am not going that far "potential to be quality starter".... put away the annointing oil... Until further notice he is Quincy 2.0

 

[garyo1954]

Jason Campbell is an excellent QB for Joe Gibbs. Remember Gibbs had three different QBs in his Super Bowl days. So the QB in his system is not the key piece, just another cog.

Still Jason Campbell has the tools if Gibbs system doesn't ruin him early. Remember the feared Mark Rypien? Doug Williams? Joe Theisman?

Now McNabb....the guy did a good job of reading the secondary last night. He didn't do a good job of making the passes. Andy wants him knocking the rust off, apparently knocking rust is more important at this point, than trying to win.

 

[slogriff]

Campbell looked better than I expected. He is still young and developing. Definitely the best potential qb the skins have had in years. McNabb on the other hand is nowhere near 100%. I believe his right knee is the bad one and they showed several throws last night where he was not pushing off on his right (back) leg. You just can't be accurate if you use just arm and no/minimal back foot. Why couldn't he have games like that against us? He always seems to kill us.

 

[AtlCB]

It doesn't take an expert to know that stats don't tell the whole story. Nobody here is saying Campbell is Tom Brady. But if you watched him play in his NINTH start, you saw him play with decent poise while making some very nice throws. Did he miss some easy ones? Yep. Does he need to make quicker reads and better decisions? You bet. But after nine starts, he definitely looks like he has the potential to be a quality starter in the league.

Potential is just another word for you haven't accomplished anything yet. Campbell may turn out to be a very good qb, but he is currently terrible. The Commanders are obviously willing to take their lumps this season to develop Campbell, but this decision will prevent them from being much of a threat for the division title. Yes, they are 2-0, but they will drop a lot of easy games against weaker opponents as a result of Campbell's mistakes and ineffectiveness.

 

[sacase]

Sorry I just don't think Campbell is good. He is a bus driver right now. So far the skins have not had to ask him to win games for them since other teams have made more mistakes than they have. Campbell is not going to win the game for you, but he is not going to loose it either. He will never be a top 10 QB in the league.

 

[riggo]

Sorry I just don't think Campbell is good. He is a bus driver right now. So far the skins have not had to ask him to win games for them since other teams have made more mistakes than they have. Campbell is not going to win the game for you, but he is not going to loose it either. He will never be a top 10 QB in the league.

the 'experts' disagree . hell, even emmitt was giving him some props.

i think i'm seeing a combination of skins hate and the fact that romo is playing very well with regards to the 'campbell is terrible' crowd.

i know its too much to ask for objectivity on a cowboys message board, but a little sanity shouldnt be. the kids making some nice plays!

 

[wileedog]

i know its too much to ask for objectivity on a cowboys message board, but a little sanity shouldnt be. the kids making some nice plays!

Quincy made some nice plays too.

We've just been through the mediocre QB thing for so long we know it when we see it

Seriously, if you look at the most successful QBs these days you find quick decision making, accuracy and usually a fast release.

Campbell currently has none of those things. And while his decision making will almost definitely improve with experience, I can't think of too many QBs off the top of my head who became signficantly more accurate or faster throwing over the course of their career.

Obviously nothing is set in stone, especially with QBs, so I guess we'll see...

 

[sacase]

the 'experts' disagree . hell, even emmitt was giving him some props.

i think i'm seeing a combination of skins hate and the fact that romo is playing very well with regards to the 'campbell is terrible' crowd.

i know its too much to ask for objectivity on a cowboys message board, but a little sanity shouldnt be. the kids making some nice plays!

He has 1 TD pass. He has three INT. At no point have the skins ever asked him to go out and win the game for them. He is a Bus driver, nothing more. The only positive thing is that he has a big arm and has a good deep ball. Other than that he just looks like his decision making is slow. All I hear from skins fans is he is the best QB in the NFCE. He has poise and potential. His scounting report is right, he is a mental midget. Perhaps that is why you think he has poise, because he is too stupid to get excited about anything. Maybe next time he can take the high heels off and not trip over his own man.

Cutler has been in the league one year less than Campbell, why is he doing so well? What's Campbell's excuse?