ilovejerry
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If we lose that game I'm jumping of the Goethals.
Phoenix-Talon;1217159 said:Alright! I get it! It appears that the majority of those who have posted on this thread believe the following ...
The Eagles are not the most dangerous team remaining in the 2006 regular NFL season ...in fact, most believe that the Eagles are not dangerous to the Cowboys at all.
The Cowboys will win because Garcia is not the threat that Romo is, and McNabb is out for the season.
Penalties and mental errors are just about the same on both teams; perhaps worse on the Eagles (by my calculation an AVERAGE for a 4 week period identified by someone earlier ...Eagles 6.5 penalties for 54 yards ...Cowboys 6 penalties for 50.75 yards)
Based on what you're saying, the game between the Eagles and the COwboys looks like both teams are pretty evenly matched. That is a dangerous way of looking at this game. If you think that the Eagles game will be a cakewalk, you are all sadly mistaking!
A healthy Eagles team is dangerous to any team ...do not underestimate the potential of the Eagles ... or overestimate the potential of the Cowboys.
Good health to your team prior to meeting the Eagles in December.
ilovejerry;1217561 said:Jim what are you on? Can I get some! Better with Garcia, No way that team is only good cause they rely on Mcnabb, He was the one who constantly brings them back, They stink without him.
ilovejerry;1217561 said:Jim what are you on? Can I get some! Better with Garcia, No way that team is only good cause they rely on Mcnabb, He was the one who constantly brings them back, They stink without him.
Jimz31;1217633 said:They are a more complete team with Garcia....not saying that they are necessarily "better", but not saying that they are any worse either.
Jimz31;1217633 said:They weren't that "great" with him.
Garcia, when he was with SF, was a pretty darn good QB. So, to say that just because Garcia is the QB, they are going down, is NOT the way to look at it.
Face it, the Eagles were and have been one dimensional with McNabb at the helm. Having Garcia forces them to be a more complete team....this is all that I am saying. The announcers in their last game even referenced it about their WR's being able to run their routes completely because they know that they have a QB that won't start to run with it as quickly as McNabb did.
They are a more complete team with Garcia....not saying that they are necessarily "better", but not saying that they are any worse either.
theebs;1217652 said:Garcia in SF had tremendous personnell to run the west coast offense. They were really well equipped. This eagles team is close that, but garcia was never asked to throw the ball down the field in SF, in philly andy reid likes more than anything to go over the top.
I honestly believe reid has taught mcnabb to go through his reads backwards, well backwards for a west coast offense. I believe most west coast offenses work from closest to furthest, it is a short pass ball control system relying on the run after the catch. I think reid however has taught mcnabb to go through the progressions deep to short because of the talent he has had the last three years around him and because of mcnabbs magnificent arm.
i think that is where the real adjustment is, the eagles have relied on the big play and the deep ball and garcia has to have adjustments made play call wise because he reads the way he was taught in sf. I think that is part of the reason he struggled in cleveland, they were looking to pound the ball and take the deep shots, with the progression being deep to short but garcias arm and size play to the short to deep progression and relying on the run after the catch.
If the eagles can stop the run and move the ball without the big play they are an excellent team. That has not been the case. Last week they played the panthers who lack a running game and they got two big plays out of stallworth.
Sure the Eagles are dangerous but not to contenders. Contenders will take care of business and the Eagles won't have an opportunity against them, the Cowboys are contenders.Phoenix-Talon;1217899 said:I'm trying my best to understand what some of you are saying, but I'm hearing more than one thing.
Experienced fans are basically sayiing "we'll cross that bridge when we get to it."
Conservative fans are saying Garcia has some decent stats (no interceptions, completion rates, etc), he is a scrambling Qb who knows how to hold onto the ball, and he can read a defense. However, he is not McNabb ...which may not be such a bad thing.
Other elements are slinging the usual insults at me, without any real fundamental justification.
But the common thread is that Dallas will" roll-over" Philly in December. Indeed, that maY/may not occur, but it was never the issue! Recap the thread, take a close look, I never tried predict a winner. The entire emphasis of my thread was to have you consider the Eagles as the most dangerous opponent you have remaining In the 2006 NFL regular season, based on the fact that the Eagles are your only remaining division opponent.
When was a division game ever not dangerously tough (rhetorically speaking)?!
Why so much hostility about a game that you have to sith through other games to even make that assessment. If I were asked the same question that I asked you, here are some potential responses ...
Of course the Eagles are a dangerous opponent; perhaps the "most dangerous" if yet to be seen. And, they become even more dangerous depending on your win and loss ratio between now and December. Coupled with the fact that if(because we do not take the Commanders lightly, regardless of their last game, or their standings, and based on the fact that they are completely out of the playoff picture ...if fact, I consider the Commanders a very dangerous opponent!
Some of you have very limited memory, or perhaps some of the sting is gone as a result of the results of the initial meeting between our two teasm in Philly. But that game in Philly and the rematch in Dallas was billed as One of the exciting meetings that was to be held in the 2006 season (partly due to the McNabb versus T.O. madness). But even now, regardless of that little side bar issue, this game is huge!
Health and momentum are going to play major roles in determining the outcome of the going Into the Eagles versus Cowboys game. That arm can swing in either direction. If the Cowboys Manage to continu their winning ways, the game between our two teams may not seem as important to the Cowboys as it would have; especially if a win or loss is not a factor In the playoff race (coupled with the fact that McNabb versus T.O. is postponed until the 2007 season). But remember this ...if the Eagles continue winning, that momentum could be a very dangerous entity. Also keep in mind, that while McNabb is out of the picture in our next meeting, T.O. is still there and Is still a motivation for the Eagles defensive team.
My bottom Line is that I'm not making a prediction, most of you who know me can tell you that I'm not big on making predicitons, but I will say ...
hellyeah, we'll be dangerous, win or lose!
Good grief Charlie Brown... no one (or very few of us) ever said the Eagles "were NOT at all dangerous."Phoenix-Talon;1217899 said:I'm trying my best to understand what some of you are saying, but I'm hearing more than one thing.
My bottom Line is that I'm not making a prediction, most of you who know me can tell you that I'm not big on making predicitons, but I will say ...
hellyeah, we'll be dangerous, win or lose!
Phoenix-Talon;1217899 said:I'm trying my best to understand what some of you are saying, but I'm hearing more than one thing.
Experienced fans are basically sayiing "we'll cross that bridge when we get to it."
Conservative fans are saying Garcia has some decent stats (no interceptions, completion rates, etc), he is a scrambling Qb who knows how to hold onto the ball, and he can read a defense. However, he is not McNabb ...which may not be such a bad thing.
Other elements are slinging the usual insults at me, without any real fundamental justification.
But the common thread is that Dallas will" roll-over" Philly in December. Indeed, that maY/may not occur, but it was never the issue! Recap the thread, take a close look, I never tried predict a winner. The entire emphasis of my thread was to have you consider the Eagles as the most dangerous opponent you have remaining In the 2006 NFL regular season, based on the fact that the Eagles are your only remaining division opponent.
When was a division game ever not dangerously tough (rhetorically speaking)?!
Why so much hostility about a game that you have to sith through other games to even make that assessment. If I were asked the same question that I asked you, here are some potential responses ...
Of course the Eagles are a dangerous opponent; perhaps the "most dangerous" if yet to be seen. And, they become even more dangerous depending on your win and loss ratio between now and December. Coupled with the fact that if(because we do not take the Commanders lightly, regardless of their last game, or their standings, and based on the fact that they are completely out of the playoff picture ...if fact, I consider the Commanders a very dangerous opponent!
Some of you have very limited memory, or perhaps some of the sting is gone as a result of the results of the initial meeting between our two teasm in Philly. But that game in Philly and the rematch in Dallas was billed as One of the exciting meetings that was to be held in the 2006 season (partly due to the McNabb versus T.O. madness). But even now, regardless of that little side bar issue, this game is huge!
Health and momentum are going to play major roles in determining the outcome of the going Into the Eagles versus Cowboys game. That arm can swing in either direction. If the Cowboys Manage to continu their winning ways, the game between our two teams may not seem as important to the Cowboys as it would have; especially if a win or loss is not a factor In the playoff race (coupled with the fact that McNabb versus T.O. is postponed until the 2007 season). But remember this ...if the Eagles continue winning, that momentum could be a very dangerous entity. Also keep in mind, that while McNabb is out of the picture in our next meeting, T.O. is still there and Is still a motivation for the Eagles defensive team.
My bottom Line is that I'm not making a prediction, most of you who know me can tell you that I'm not big on making predicitons, but I will say ...
hellyeah, we'll be dangerous, win or lose!
stasheroo;1217955 said:I'll sum it up so even you may understand it.
The Saints and Cowboys are vying for the #2 seed in the playoffs which includes a bye week and at least one home game.
The winner of Sunday Night's game gains a tie-breaker advantage and goes one game ahead of the other - that's huge. Therefore, the Saints are the most dangerous team the Cowboys have left to face.
The Eagles are irrelevant.
Let them scramble and hope they get into the playoffs, the Cowboys have bigger things to look forward to.
The Eagles are just another opponent at this point.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Worthy of respect, sure, but not fear. And for the last time, they're not "dangerous". Especially not after the Giants neuter them!
Phoenix-Talon;1217980 said:Sure, you've made it plain, better than anyone so far! However, I disagree with one point ...while the Saints game may be the most important
game, it may not necessarily prove to be the most dangerous game remaining.
Wonderboyromo;1214733 said:I understand the "any given sunday" standpoint, but teams won't lay-off against another team this time of year. you wont take anyone lightly.