The Moxie

Doc50 said:
Ok, Amberbach
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Oh the interesting things auto-correct reveals.

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AbeBeta said:
I like him but reality is this. One, he is small. That's something elite, Drew Brees-like talent overcomes. Tall order to overcome that. Second, and likely more problematic, he's a lefty. This league has seem very little success from lefty QBs. People will immediately bring to mind Steve Young to refute that. Now come up with another from the last 20 years. Mike Vick?

About 10% of people are left-handed. Every year 40+ guys start an NFL game at QB. How many are southpaws? Hint: often zero.

Offenses are complex and require precise throwing lanes. It is all written for right handers. You can't just make everyone flip sides and run it the other way.

Love the moxie, but hard to succeed with these two limitations
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Interesting theory. I've never thought about the reasons why we may not see many lefties. Seems to make a lot of sense and a possible reason why. I guess we'll find out if Moore can break this pattern.
 
SDCowboy85 said:
lol This. People are really seeing what they want to see in him right now, IMO. It's getting absurd.
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The "beer goggle syndrome".........after seeing the Weeden/Cassell trainwreck, we have a QB that looked a bit more QB-like. But he is far from our next starting QB. Best case would be a backup to a backup at this time. Will need to see how he progresses here under the professional and expert tutelage of Wade Wilson/Garrett (note sarcasm here). Not to mention he makes Doug Free his blind side protector------yikes :omg:; he better increase his life insurance policy or at least purchase long term disability.

No question we need to draft a QB in first this draft. And obtain another one by trade/FA. Romo ain't surviving half the season next year.
 
Moxie isn't a QB trait that matters. This guy is a 3rd string QB. I like watching him play but hes not a high end backup and definitely not a starter.
 
I'll wait for two more games to state anything like the OP...but, I have also said that he looked WAY different in there compared to Weeden and Cassel...he made rookie mistakes, so I wasn't throwing everything at the TV...but, he made me think that they had a chance on any drive when he was in the game...I never felt that way with weeden or cassel...he deserves these two games to see if he can stick with the team (I am hoping that he can)...that in NO WAY should prohibit the team from drafting a QB in the spring

Note: if Weeden, who is starting today for Houston, has a good game and a win, is that an indictment against our coaching staff? more to come....
 
Fredd said:
I'll wait for two more games to state anything like the OP...but, I have also said that he looked WAY different in there compared to Weeden and Cassel...he made rookie mistakes, so I wasn't throwing everything at the TV...but, he made me think that they had a chance on any drive when he was in the game...I never felt that way with weeden or cassel...he deserves these two games to see if he can stick with the team (I am hoping that he can)...that in NO WAY should prohibit the team from drafting a QB in the spring

Note: if Weeden, who is starting today for Houston, has a good game and a win, is that an indictment against our coaching staff? more to come....
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It got so, that every time Weeden or Cassel dropped back to pass. I expected bad things to happen. I didn't have that with Moore. But also knowing we were not going to win the division, it didn't matter if something bad happened, as I wanted to see his overall performance. Now if something more was on the line, then I may have felt different.

He showed enough to start the last 2 games. I just hope that if he does well, the team doesn't fool themselves into thinking they don't need to draft a QB.
Because they do need to draft one regardless.
 
Hailmary said:
I don't think anyone's really looking at him as a starter, but more of a viable backup.
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When Romo arrived nobody gave him much thought. I told these people at the time that he was one of Mel's top sleepers. Maybe he'd be a good backup some day. But certainly not what he turned out to be.

All I'm saying is expectation doesn't definitively decide your pro career.

I do think there's something to his game that might allow him to have a long pro career as a backup/spot starter. But I thought the same of Romo. Could it happen again here? I highly doubt it but it certainly will happen somewhere.
 
jazzcat22 said:
It got so, that every time Weeden or Cassel dropped back to pass. I expected bad things to happen. I didn't have that with Moore. But also knowing we were not going to win the division, it didn't matter if something bad happened, as I wanted to see his overall performance. Now if something more was on the line, then I may have felt different.

He showed enough to start the last 2 games. I just hope that if he does well, the team doesn't fool themselves into thinking they don't need to draft a QB.
Because they do need to draft one regardless.
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This is exactly how I feel....he was entertaining in there, and since they were done for the season, then chuck it up and see what happens...now, I would have liked him to have his feet planted a little better and toss it up like he was in a play-ground, but lack of experience will do that...I could see him being the #2 until the draftee this spring gets some time under his belt and supplants him. moving him back to #3...but, the cassel experience is over for me...btw, I am still not confident that this isn't coaching related...they may never have let Weeden or Cassell throw down field
 
Risen Star said:
When Romo arrived nobody gave him much thought. I told these people at the time that he was one of Mel's top sleepers. Maybe he'd be a good backup some day. But certainly not what he turned out to be.

All I'm saying is expectation doesn't definitively decide your pro career.

I do think there's something to his game that might allow him to have a long pro career as a backup/spot starter. But I thought the same of Romo. Could it happen again here? I highly doubt it but it certainly will happen somewhere.
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I think his ceiling as like one of the Detmers. Smart heady type that can function in short bursts, but that is about it.
 
Slow down guys. I liked what I saw in terms of composure, accuracy, and reading the blitz. But I also didn't like the misreading of the safety twice, once which cost the team at least three points on the board. Fortunately, this can be corrected. The other formerly mentioned things you either have or you don't really.
 
Carharris2 said:
Interesting theory. I've never thought about the reasons why we may not see many lefties. Seems to make a lot of sense and a possible reason why. I guess we'll find out if Moore can break this pattern.
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A 6'6" 245lb guy with his traits might break the pattern. Or a guy his size who can run a 4.3. Kellen Moore doesn't have those physical traits. Very unlikely.
 
AmberBeer said:
I've already seen enough from Moore to want him back next year competing for the backup position with a veteran. It's the same gut feeling I had with Romo early in his career. I was laughed at back then and I'm sure many will laugh at me know but I think the FO did outstanding bringing him in for a look and think he will eventually become the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. He's got the Moxie.
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I too am down with the moxie.
 
Starting a game is completely different than coming off the bench in relief. Fun to watch but not a long term option. I think the same posters that pumped up Synjyn Days are the ones who think KelMo is a future star in this league.
 
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