The New KITT!

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Rowdy;1932593 said:
The low profile tires you see in both the KITT car and the ZO6 picture typify high performance. You get much better handling with lower profile tires. That is just the way it is. Sure you don't have to go that low but these types of tires are put on most of the major high performance cars out there be it the Z06, 911, Enzo, etc.

Sorry but this is incorrect.

Technically "Low Profile" tires provide better performance but that doesn't mean "The lower the better". The tires on the KITT car are TOO low and you WILL drag your rim across the pavement if you corner too hard in it. Not to mention the "ride" is horrible in cars with that much rim/too little tire.

And FYI, the ferrari enzo is a great car, but it's known for it's "luxury" and speed, but it's handling (compared to the best handling cars in the world) is moderate. Just ask comedian Eddie Griffin or that guy that stole an enzo then wrecked it (can't remember his name).

You want to look at the tires of a great handling car, look at a lotus or a typical tuner car (one that's actually used for performance, not just looks).

Some people trick out their cars just to look a certain way, with no regard to handling. Those people, for some reason, like to put giant rims on the car with pretty much the wicked weasel equivelant of a tire over the rims.


That being said, there's more tire on the enzo then there is on the KITT car...

http://i54.***BLOCKED***/albums/g105/gangsta_212/PimpMyRide-FerrariEnzo3-WestCoastCu.jpg

The best handling car in the world has bigger tires on it than the KITT car...

http://img444.*************/img444/4793/0000000000000000000so7.jpg

So basically low profile tires do provide better performance, but there is a limit to how low you can go before the performance worsens, not to mention the horrible ride giant rims/little tires provide and the effect is has on the foudation of the vehicle (suspension, chassis, etc...)

Rowdy;1932594 said:
I find a good compromise on sidewall height in my cars below. I have found that the sidewall "lip" that protects the outer rim does indeed work.

http://img297.*************/img297/9002/lffac252f481bd0c3de0461yt0.jpg

http://img297.*************/img297/8305/l3ce6c5918a086d4a7fcc50qh3.jpg

http://img297.*************/img297/9930/l3834f2b2460e471270c82dai2.jpg

Those are just right.
 

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Rack;1933030 said:
Sorry but this is incorrect.

Technically "Low Profile" tires provide better performance but that doesn't mean "The lower the better". The tires on the KITT car are TOO low and you WILL drag your rim across the pavement if you corner too hard in it. Not to mention the "ride" is horrible in cars with that much rim/too little tire.

And FYI, the ferrari enzo is a great car, but it's known for it's "luxury" and speed, but it's handling (compared to the best handling cars in the world) is moderate. Just ask comedian Eddie Griffin or that guy that stole an enzo then wrecked it (can't remember his name).

You want to look at the tires of a great handling car, look at a lotus or a typical tuner car (one that's actually used for performance, not just looks).

Some people trick out their cars just to look a certain way, with no regard to handling. Those people, for some reason, like to put giant rims on the car with pretty much the wicked weasel equivelant of a tire over the rims.


That being said, there's more tire on the enzo then there is on the KITT car...

http://i54.***BLOCKED***/albums/g105/gangsta_212/PimpMyRide-FerrariEnzo3-WestCoastCu.jpg

The best handling car in the world has bigger tires on it than the KITT car...

http://img444.*************/img444/4793/0000000000000000000so7.jpg

So basically low profile tires do provide better performance, but there is a limit to how low you can go before the performance worsens, not to mention the horrible ride giant rims/little tires provide and the effect is has on the foudation of the vehicle (suspension, chassis, etc...)



Those are just right.


Actually, I was correct. The lower profile tires do provide better handling. Thats a fact. All your doing is twisting my words around by acting like I think there is no limit to the lowering. "Lower profile tires provide increased handling." That's the truth. To insinuate I said that the "lower the better" is false. Everything has its limits. Thats like me insinuating you think gargantuan sidewalls are better because they provide an increased protection to the rim.
 

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The Bugatti Veyron which sports over 1000 horsepower seems to do quite fine on very low profile tires. I would think the manufacturers would know a little about performance and handling on this car.

http://img406.*************/img406/1956/bugatti20veyronxn2.jpg
 

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Danny White;1932090 said:
The new Michael Knight (he's no Hoff!)

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Wait, he is supposed to be Michael? I thought I read that he is the son of Michael. That also explains the new car. I also heard that [SIZE=-1]David Hasselhoff is going to be in the first ep.[/SIZE]
 

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I hope the rumors aren't true that there is no Turbo Boost. I always loved seeing KITT jump over anything and make that woooooom noise. lol

According to this site it does have turbo boost.

Kind of funny thinking of this a a definitive answer since most of what the old kitt and knew kitt can do is just fantasy. But they did a nice list of comparing the old and new.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4237588.html
 

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Rowdy;1933538 said:
Actually, I was correct. The lower profile tires do provide better handling. Thats a fact. All your doing is twisting my words around by acting like I think there is no limit to the lowering. "Lower profile tires provide increased handling." That's the truth. To insinuate I said that the "lower the better" is false. Everything has its limits. Thats like me insinuating you think gargantuan sidewalls are better because they provide an increased protection to the rim.

I didn't insinuate anything.

I was referring to the tires on the pic of the KITT car. Those are NOT better for handling. You WILL grind the rims on the pavement if you corner hard with those Rims. Period.

And if you insinuated that I think bigger tires are better cuz they protect the rim you'd be DUMB cuz I already stated that bigger is NOT better. I even stated that "Low profile tires are better for performance" I just clarified it by stating "But it doesn't mean the lower the better".




Rowdy;1933560 said:
The Bugatti Veyron which sports over 1000 horsepower seems to do quite fine on very low profile tires. I would think the manufacturers would know a little about performance and handling on this car.

http://img406.*************/img406/1956/bugatti20veyronxn2.jpg

You say that I insinuated you thought "The lower the better" as if you don't feel that way, then you post a pic of a car with tires about as low as you can get.

So which is it, Genius? The Lower the better, or not?


And anyone that knows cars would know that the bugati is built for SPEED, not HANDLING (it's the fastest car in the world). So posting that pic not only DOESN'T help your argument, it actually HURTS your argument.

Not only that, but if I did actually believe bigger tires are better, I could post just as DUMB of an argument and do post this pic...

Drag&


... and say "These guys race cars for a living. They are professionals, they know more about cars than anyone" or some stupid crap like that.

Fact is those tires on the bugati are that small for the LOOKS of it (a look I don't like btw), and - as I stated above - the bugati is a SPEED car (fastest in the world) not a HANDLING car.


You won't see that bugati turning corners at high speeds unless the driver is willing to pay thousands of dollars to replace the rims, and even then it STILL wouldn't handle better then if the tires were a bit "Bigger".


Also, "Better Handling" depends on what you're referring to. I guarantee your those tiny tires don't "Handle" bumps and pot holes as good as a bigger tire.

Hey, I want to go mud racing, what's the best handling tires available? Low Profile tires, of course!

:rolleyes:
 

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heavyg;1931268 said:
agreed. I think they should have at least stayed with the firebird look. Could have went with the new Camero. The Mustang looks to bulky IMO.

Ford offered them basically 2x as much as they would have received from GM. Ford had gotten "upset" about the rage and hype the camaro receiver from Transformers
 

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Rack;1933734 said:
I didn't insinuate anything.

I was referring to the tires on the pic of the KITT car. Those are NOT better for handling. You WILL grind the rims on the pavement if you corner hard with those Rims. Period.

And if you insinuated that I think bigger tires are better cuz they protect the rim you'd be DUMB cuz I already stated that bigger is NOT better. I even stated that "Low profile tires are better for performance" I just clarified it by stating "But it doesn't mean the lower the better".





You say that I insinuated you thought "The lower the better" as if you don't feel that way, then you post a pic of a car with tires about as low as you can get.

So which is it, Genius? The Lower the better, or not?


And anyone that knows cars would know that the bugati is built for SPEED, not HANDLING (it's the fastest car in the world). So posting that pic not only DOESN'T help your argument, it actually HURTS your argument.

Not only that, but if I did actually believe bigger tires are better, I could post just as DUMB of an argument and do post this pic...

Drag&


... and say "These guys race cars for a living. They are professionals, they know more about cars than anyone" or some stupid crap like that.

Fact is those tires on the bugati are that small for the LOOKS of it (a look I don't like btw), and - as I stated above - the bugati is a SPEED car (fastest in the world) not a HANDLING car.


You won't see that bugati turning corners at high speeds unless the driver is willing to pay thousands of dollars to replace the rims, and even then it STILL wouldn't handle better then if the tires were a bit "Bigger".


Also, "Better Handling" depends on what you're referring to. I guarantee your those tiny tires don't "Handle" bumps and pot holes as good as a bigger tire.

Hey, I want to go mud racing, what's the best handling tires available? Low Profile tires, of course!

:rolleyes:


Genius eh? Why thanks! Its really pathetically simple. You posted the Enzo to prove your supposed point that it had taller profile tires than the KITT car. You do remember dont ya? I simply posted a picture of a car that goes like stink with 1001 horses and they put much lower profile tires on it.

If you can't see the point Im making then Ill let you return to homeschooling and get with you over the summer when you are on break.
 

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Rowdy;1933967 said:
Genius eh? Why thanks! Its really pathetically simple. You posted the Enzo to prove your supposed point that it had taller profile tires than the KITT car. You do remember dont ya? I simply posted a picture of a car that goes like stink with 1001 horses and they put much lower profile tires on it.

If you can't see the point Im making then Ill let you return to homeschooling and get with you over the summer when you are on break.

I posted the enzo cuz YOU mentioned the Enzo, Chico.


I believe I even mentioned this:

And FYI, the ferrari enzo is a great car, but it's known for it's "luxury" and speed, but it's handling (compared to the best handling cars in the world) is moderate. Just ask comedian Eddie Griffin or that guy that stole an enzo then wrecked it (can't remember his name).

You do read, don't ya? Or do you just wook at the pwetty pictuwes?
 

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Still waiting for a decent response concerning the Bugatti. Again I repeat that it utilizes extremely low profile tires such as the KITT and if it is indeed good enough for the Veyron, it stands to reason that it is an excellent tire to be used for handling. Or is that too much for you to compute?
 

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Rowdy;1934517 said:
Still waiting for a decent response concerning the Bugatti. Again I repeat that it utilizes extremely low profile tires such as the KITT and if it is indeed good enough for the Veyron, it stands to reason that it is an excellent tire to be used for handling. Or is that too much for you to compute?

with both engines on the Veryron running and it going full speed not only will it run out of gas in ~12 mins buts before that even acures the tires will be blow off (again while traveling at its top speed). And the tires on the Veyron will never see the spings and drifts that the new gt500kr will
 

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the kid 05;1935182 said:
with both engines on the Veryron running and it going full speed not only will it run out of gas in ~12 mins buts before that even acures the tires will be blow off (again while traveling at its top speed). And the tires on the Veyron will never see the spings and drifts that the new gt500kr will

LMAO. The tires blowing off? Even if that were true, what does that have to do with anything about its sidewall choice for the manufacturers? Its mpg also has nothing to do with the argument concerning sidewall height. Do the two of you comprehend the fact that I am presenting a fact that this 1,000,000+ car was deemed worthy of super low profile tires? If the car could not handle it they would have simply not used them. Geez.
 

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Rowdy;1935247 said:
LMAO. The tires blowing off? Even if that were true, what does that have to do with anything about its sidewall choice for the manufacturers? Its mpg also has nothing to do with the argument concerning sidewall height. Do the two of you comprehend the fact that I am presenting a fact that this 1,000,000+ car was deemed worthy of super low profile tires? If the car could not handle it they would have simply not used them. Geez.

low profiles? it has a 4.5 inch profile, hardly low pro's
 

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the kid 05;1935460 said:
low profiles? it has a 4.5 inch profile, hardly low pro's

You are 100% incorrect. The tires in the Veyron in the pic above are definitely not 4.5 inches in sidewall height.
 

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The Bugatti has been fitted with several tires. One of them being the Michelins and the other the Dunlops used in the manufacturers vehicle above. Those aren't 4.5 inches.

http://img513.*************/img513/2695/veyronev1.jpg
 

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Rowdy;1934517 said:
Still waiting for a decent response concerning the Bugatti. Again I repeat that it utilizes extremely low profile tires such as the KITT and if it is indeed good enough for the Veyron, it stands to reason that it is an excellent tire to be used for handling. Or is that too much for you to compute?


So you're telling me the fastest car in the world is built for handling?


Oh this is gonna be fun.
:lmao2:



I'm still waiting a response from you regarding your contradiction. You got your panties in a bunch when you said I "Insinuated" that you thought "The lower the better" when it comes to lo-pros, then in all your ignorance you go all out defending pretty much the smallest tire you can put on a rim - using about as wrong a choice of a car to "prove" your point as possible.

Link

How much hard cornering do you see that bugati doing in that video?



It's real simple, just watch any competition involving cars that would NEED high performance tires... how many of them are as small as the ones on that bugati?
 

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It's gotta be a joke reading your replies because no one can be that stupid (or can you). First of all, get English for Dummies if you can't compute these threads and what people actually state.

"So you're telling me the fastest car in the world is built for handling? Oh this is gonna be fun."

Well, that sure makes a lot of sense.:rolleyes: You ask if I am telling you the Veyron is built for handling and then go on and answer yourself. So did you really want to know or did that extremely small expanse of time confuse you that you answered yourself without getting a real answer?

The Veyron is capable of high speeds. You admitted that. Therefore with a reasonable head on one's shoulders, one would definitely conclude in the automobile world that if you build a car that goes like stink, it had better have the handling to go along with it. The car has considerable forces on the wheels ie. tires at these ridiculous speeds. You make it like the Bugatti would be in trouble if it got in the twisties cause its not a Lotus.

You post a pic of the Enzo and it has low profile tires. Then you state that the Enzo's tires aren't as low profile as the KITT trying to prove some vain point. Therefore I thought of one out of at least twenty cars that go along with what I was stating earlier that there are manufacturers out there that for some reason put these extremely low profile tires on for handling. You act like any sidewalls lower than 8 inches are Dubs and are for posers only. If taller sidewalls helped cornering, one would assume that all these newer high performance automobiles would have them stock. Go to a car show with all the exotics and see the sidewall height.:rolleyes:
 

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My gawd, Rowdy.

Serious question, are you even from the United States? Cuz you seem to not know how to read the english language.


And calling me stupid won't hide the fact that you don't know wth you're talking about.


Go back and read the whole thread again - slowly - and see if you can figure it out this time.


And try actually responding to this part...

It's real simple, just watch any competition involving cars that would NEED high performance tires... how many of them are as small as the ones on that bugati?

... if you can.


ALso, make up your mind... when concerning low profile tires, is it "The smaller the better" or not? You can't pick both sides of the argument, Nancy.
 

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Rack;1936769 said:
My gawd, Rowdy.

Serious question, are you even from the United States? Cuz you seem to not know how to read the english language.


And calling me stupid won't hide the fact that you don't know wth you're talking about.


Go back and read the whole thread again - slowly - and see if you can figure it out this time.


And try actually responding to this part...



... if you can.


ALso, make up your mind... when concerning low profile tires, is it "The smaller the better" or not? You can't pick both sides of the argument, Nancy.


You can't twist my words around. Nice try. When one loses their point they start assuming and changing the facts. I never said that lower is better and followed it with something like "heck might as well ride on the rims themselves" or whatever. Lower profile tires are better. Period. Dont make this more difficult than it needs to be. You jump on me using the Bugatti as a handling machine and pointed at its low profile tires as an example. Here are some other exotic super cars that you cannot deny have high cornering abilities.

http://img179.*************/img179/8124/cardesigndw7.jpg

http://img179.*************/img179/6639/9114wu0.gif

http://img179.*************/img179/4611/2006lamborghinimurcielawi7.jpg

http://img179.*************/img179/4453/saleenshowmodelsh5.jpg

But hey, I guess the manufacturers didn't think about turning in any of these at a high rate of speed.:rolleyes: I would love to hear you discount the handling abilities of the Ferrari 430, 911 and Saleen S7. They all exhibit extremely low profile tires now don't they? If you understood up until this point-congratulations and get yourself a cookie!
 
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