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They call me the Phoenix-Talon, Phoenetic-Talon, PT and a few other names that could give you a nose bleed. I shoot straight from the hip and I don't miss. I feel this prelude is necessary for those who have recently come to the Zone puzzled about how an Eagles Fan can co-exist with Cowboy fans for almost 3-years and have more than 3,000 posts.

I'm no pushover either. You might say I'm an opponent voice; yet I don't speak for an entire fandom. I'll give you my honest perspective and I won't hold back. Yet, I'll follow Zone rules just like everyone else (well almost everyone else). I push the envelope, while others shoot the envelope straight out of a cannon.

Because of my job (Mental Health field), I'm in the Washington, DC metropolitan area. That means that I get all of the Commander Reports (George Michaels and Sonny Jergonsen); I also am on the Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys message Boards. That means I get all of the NFC-East Buzz. Right now, the buzz (with a link ...http://nfl.com/teams/story/DAL/9591906) is all about the Cowboys Head Coach and a certain (do it my way) wide receiver. There is an unofficial writing here on the East Coast called ..."Graffiti" or writings on the wall that more often than not is accurate.

Your feedback is important; so take a look at the Graffitti highlighted...

Topic #1:

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NFL.com wire reports
OXNARD, Calif. (Aug. 8, 2006) -- *Bill Parcells said he has no problem with Terrell Owens bringing in his own experts to help repair his ailing hamstring. Parcells does have a problem with all the attention the injury is generating at Cowboys camp.

*With T.O.-related questions again dominating his daily gathering with reporters, Parcells tried getting off the subject by saying: "I'm getting the sense that most of the media is just waiting for something to be controversial in that regard. *And I'm here to tell you, it's not going to happen from me. So you need to get that in your head. OK?"

When the topic was broached again later, Parcells warned not to try interpreting his mood on this subject. "The situation is the same as I told you the other day," he said. "We are hopeful we can get the work in and get him into the program and up to speed with what we do as soon as possible. It hasn't changed. I said it yesterday. I said it today. I said it the first day. It's not going to change."

*Since taking part in the first eight workouts of training camp, Owens has been on the sidelines for the last eight, including a scrimmage. Plenty more absences are likely since *Owens said he doubts that he will play in the preseason opener Aug. 12 in Seattle. (not from Parcells)
The pain began last Aug. 2. *An MRI taken Aug. 5 showed no problems. He's repeatedly said his status is day-to-day, spending most of each practice slowly riding a stationary bicycle. (while the Other player bust their butts)

*"If the player is telling you that he has something bothering him, then you have to give the player the benefit of the doubt," Parcells said. "At some point in time it's going to be prohibitive. But that's not now. That shouldn't be the story today."

*The notion that Owens might be stirring things up so early in training camp is exactly why this is so buzz-worthy.

*The downside is that the club must deal with ongoing speculation of when and if Owens would stir things up in Dallas.

A nagging hamstring injury in early August doesn't even crack the Top 10 of Owens incidents -- but *little things could be starting to pile up, such as turning to his own medical team instead of those provided by the team.
It's worth noting that many of the specialists he's summoned were among those who helped him recover from an ankle injury to play in the February 2005 Super Bowl. *But he contradicts the new team-friendly attitude he says he has adopted when he says, "I have to do what's best for me regardless of what anybody thinks."

Parcells said Owens is not his first player to go beyond the organization's staff to treat an injury. The coach's viewpoint: "If that's what he wants to do." Parcells has often praised Dallas' training staff during his three-plus seasons, especially with how quickly they've rehabilitated several injured players. He said Aug. 8 that he's "very pleased" with them.
Asked what they think of Owens' outside help, he said reporters would have to ask them. Reminded they are off-limits to reporters, Parcells said, "Then I guess you're not going to ask them."

Owens' conditioning and competitiveness are not things Parcells is concerned about. The bigger issue raised by all the lost practices is that he and quarterback Drew Bledsoe aren't getting their timing down. The two were not very sharp in their five days together thus far.

Asked when that becomes an issue, Parcells said, "I don't know that it ever will be." However, he also doesn't think they can merely show up for the Sept. 10 opener at Jacksonville and immediately click. "You wouldn't think so, would you?" he said.

Topic #2:

Commanders weren't impressive during their scrimmage

Topic #3:

Giants injury problems just keep surmounting

Topic #4

Will the Eagles do anything about their Wide Receiver Corp (there's talk)

A lot of fans out this way (East Coast) are chatting about these topics. What's your take on any of this ...
 
Right now, there is a thread title in this forum, that is appropriate for this thread.

I'll let you guess as to which....
 
Vintage said:
Right now, there is a thread title in this forum, that is appropriate for this thread. I'll let you guess as to which....

I like your new style Vintage. Alright, so what are you saying ...you want me to guess something (how many guesses?)...

Guess #1 - You don't have an opinion (that can't be right, you have an opinion about everything/anything)

Guess #2 - You disagree with the thread title?

Look, it's early, I'm just having my Starbucks (white Chocolate Moca), and I'm really on interested in dialoguing with those posters that have something to say about the topics presented. This isn't Jeopardy, so what are you trying to communicate Vintage?
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
I like your new style Vintage. Alright, so what are you saying ...you want me to guess something (how many guesses?)...

Guess #1 - You don't have an opinion (that can't be right, you have an opinion about everything/anything)

Guess #2 - You disagree with the thread title?

Look, it's early, I'm just having my Starbucks (white Chocolate Moca), and I'm really on interested in dialoguing with those posters that have something to say about the topics presented. This isn't Jeopardy, so what are you trying to communicate Vintage?

Guess #1 is too true. I have an opinion on everything. You should see me get into some political discussions. Especially concerning the Israeli/Hezbollah "situation."

Guess #2- I don't disagree with the thread title. I don't care about this thread title.

I was saying that there is another thread title that would be the PERFECT response to this thread.

But alas, what fun is it, if I give it away?
 
PT, it's time to change Eagles fan laison to "I love me some TO".

The time has come.
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
What amazes me is when Larry Allen who is a no doubt Hall of Famer for Dallas said he had a bum ankle Cowboys fans lined up to bash him for being a lazy, fat, good for nothing sob that was faking injury to get out of practicing and then here comes TO who has NEVER done anything for Dallas and is a no doubt SOB and says he has a bum hamstring these same Cowobys fans line up to defend him and bash anyone who questions it. Explain that one to me.
 
jimmy40 said:
What amazes me is when Larry Allen who is a no doubt Hall of Famer for Dallas said he had a bum ankle Cowboys fans lined up to bash him for being a lazy, fat, good for nothing sob that was faking injury to get out of practicing and then here comes TO who has NEVER done anything for Dallas and is a no doubt SOB and says he has a bum hamstring these same Cowobys fans line up to defend him and bash anyone who questions it. Explain that one to me.

I agree the wrath of the fans is not always fair. I always figured if a player is hurt he is hurt and should not be blamed for it, it is just part of the game. As for TO I would rather be on the safe side than to rush something like a hamstring
 
Vintage said:
I was saying that there is another thread title that would be the PERFECT response to this thread. But alas, what fun is it, if I give it away?

I'm going to go out On a Limb Here ...could your post have read ...

..."there is another thread title that would be the PERFECT response to this thread."

WOuldn't that have been more straight forward?
 
jimmy40 said:
What amazes me is when Larry Allen who is a no doubt Hall of Famer for Dallas said he had a bum ankle Cowboys fans lined up to bash him for being a lazy, fat, good for nothing sob that was faking injury to get out of practicing and then here comes TO who has NEVER done anything for Dallas and is a no doubt SOB and says he has a bum hamstring these same Cowobys fans line up to defend him and bash anyone who questions it. Explain that one to me.

There are a lot of expectations for some players; and less for others. Trust Me ...the ticket that probably comes from the top on this One is ...make this player "happy" at all costs!
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
There are a lot of expectations for some players; and less for others. Trust Me ...the ticket that probably comes from the top on this One is ...make this player "happy" at all costs!

Just to make sure we're interpreting your nancy-tip-toe prose correctly - you're saying that Jerry Jones is telling Parcells not to do anything to upset Owens. Is that right?
 
It amazes me that three of the Eagles' running backs are hurt and they're still preoccupied with Owens!

One of their "supposed" starting receivers can't even practice, much less play and they're still preoccupied with Owens!

If the worst thing the Cowboys have to worry about is a tweaked hamstring and a starting receiver missing a preseason game, I'll be really thankful.

Judging from the look of things in Philadelphia, they could obviously be a lot worse!
 
I'll take a run at the topics presented.

TO - TO has never really been effectively (please note the adjective) accused of dogging it in practice. TO knows (and has publicly stated) that his timing with Bledsoe needs work and I believe he desperately wants to get that work in. He will do anything and everything to get better. Why should Parcells be upset at him taking every possible action to try and get better? This is, once again, the media attempting to make something from nothing. Parcells administered a public spanking to two members of the media at yesterday's PC and they needed it desperately. The more I hear Parcells the better I like his media skills. He really is quite impressive.

The injury itself a reason for some concern because it has the potential to 'nag' all season if not handled properly.

Commanders and Giants - Its training camp and still early. There probably aren't too many teams capable of looking impressive at this point and injuries are coming frequently. Players are hot...and tired....and offenses are still looking for the timing and cohesiveness necessary to be successful. In short, no surprises here.

Eagles WR's- A more intersting topic. TO made an important contribution to the Eagles offense because he possessed two important qualities. He is a receiver who is both a deep threat and who can make big yards running after the catch in traffic. The WR's available right now (Porter and Lelie?) do not have the same combination of skills. It is not clear to me that adding either of these folks will provide a significant upgrade to the Eagle attack. If there is insufficient speed in the current Eagle crop to stretch the field deep then perhaps they can help, but otherwise I'm not sure if they are worth the investment. I don't follow the Eagles closely but I doubt a move happens unless they need depth from the injuries.

Oh and PT....I heard Andy Reid was so fat his belly button makes echoes.:p:
 
superpunk said:
Just to make sure we're interpreting your nancy-tip-toe prose correctly - you're saying that Jerry Jones is telling Parcells not to do anything to upset Owens. Is that right?

You're wasting your time with "beat-around-the-bush" posts ...you've got some real good interpretive skills.
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
You're wasting your time with "beat-around-the-bush" posts ...you've got some real good interpretive skills.


You fail


:suxiggle:

:trophy:

:iggles:

:eagwhine:

:eaghomer:

Oh BTW did i mention you fail

:beatit:













Doesnt it suck to be an opposing fan:D
 
lspain1 said:
I'll take a run at the topics presented.

Oh and PT....I heard Andy Reid was so fat his belly button makes echoes.:p:

Out of all that you said ...the Andy Reid analysis was hillarious ...Lol

Nice frontal attack!:p:
 
dargonking999 said:
Doesnt it suck to be an opposing fan:D

Esp one who has never won a Superbowl ............. ever ...........ever ...........ever.

:star:
 
zrinkill said:
Esp one who has never won a Superbowl ............. ever ...........ever ...........ever.

:star:
In today's NFL, any team can win a Super Bowl. Eventually, Philly will have another shot at winning a Lombardi.

...of course, at the rate which the Eagles make Super Bowl appearances, it will be 2025 before they can try again.
 
DallasEast said:
"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined." -http://www.webmd.com/content/article/118/112882.htm

I wouldn't dare make any attempt at labeling anything ...BTW, that's called stigmatizing.


It wouldn't have been that bad if you had used an interpretation from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM - IV); versus the web interpretation ...

The web isn't considered a very empirical source of research for M/H related material ...but how could you have known that!?
 

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