The NFL botched the Ezekiel Elliott probe, but won't admit it

[zekecowboy]

Roger Goodell may have bitten off more than he can chew, by not biting at all.

All the NFL world is ablaze following the news of a six-game suspension being heaved on Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, for accusations of domestic violence alleged by former girlfriend, Tiffany Thompson. Shortly after delivering the verdict, both Elliott's camp and Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones were furious -- with the former promising legal action against the league, but first came the official appeal filed on Tuesday.

One day prior, Elliott's father took to Twitter and revealed additional bombshell information that shows Ms. Thompson's clear intent to use race as a prevailing factor in helping her frame Elliott for an assault she now alleges took place.



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[Pants]

Thompson is a money-hungry bimbo that is butt-hurt because Zeke finally realized that he can't have her present him when he gets his HOF award as a Cowboy; thus, he dumped her

 

[John813]

Definitely not an open and shut case of DV with no strings attached.

Going to be another ugly battle that the NFL will be a part of.

 

[haleyrules]

Most of the NFL don't give a hoot about Elliotts troubles. Its only a big drama on a few Cowboy boards. I hope it gets concluded quickly so we can get back to what really matters. Cowboy Football!!

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I agree.

Furthermore, I think what happened is that some owners *coughcoughMaracoughcough* wanted EE suspended for a couple of games for the St. Paddy's Day incident which would have fell under 'conduct' and probably wanted at least a 1 game suspension and a max of 4. Then boy genius Goodell suspended him for 6 games and labeled EE as a woman beater and many of the owners weren't cool with that. And now Goodell is finding himself in hot water.

But, it was easy to tell the investigation was botched when Peter Harvey stated that Thompson was an eyewitness to her own accusation. And that the letter to EE made no mention of her lies to police, witness tampering, discussion of extortion or eyewitness accounts that countered her statements (which included eyewitnesses that said there were no bruises on her prior to the fight on the 21st).

So the next plan for the NFL is to try and shame EE for things that have nothing to do with the case at hand. It's wrong for somebody to bring up something like a woman's sexual past because it has nothing to do with the case at hand. But the league has no problem bringing up the St. Paddy's day incident and EE liking to party...which has nothing to do with the case at hand.

They screwed up and now they are trying to play the poor hapless female victim card and ignore everything she has done that pertains to the case.

I want to know where they got the meta-data from. I want to see Bosah's pic taken on the 21st. I think those are the smoking guns.




YR

 

[Doomsday101]

Most of the NFL don't give a hoot about Elliotts troubles. Its only a big drama on a few Cowboy boards. I hope it gets concluded quickly so we can get back to what really matters. Cowboy Football!!

It should matter because cases like this sets a precedence for others. For me it is not about Elliott being a Cowboys, heck I have leaned on the side of the NFL on most suspension even those pertaining to Cowboy players as long as their is clear cut prove of a violation. However when a player can get suspended based on she said despite overwhelming evidence against her then it is an issue and should be an issue for every player out there.

 

[DogFace]

Does anyone know when she said in a text "I got my a** beat" was she talking about her fight with the volleyball player???

That exchange is confusing

 

[jrumann59]

I want to know where they got the meta-data from. I want to see Bosah's pic taken on the 21st. I think those are the smoking guns.




YR

The metadata is unreliable and unless there is something out there that can tell beyond a reasonable doubt that that photo was taken when it says metadata is as substantial as a fart in a hurricane.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

So what I read in the report was a lot of witnesses stating that they never saw any wounds on her prior to the fight with the other woman. One witness even stated he was with her at a pool with her wearing a bikini and saw nothing on her body.

Now I am not saying something physical did or didn't happened between Zeke and her, but if you base it off the sworn affidavits, how can this been a slam dunk case for the NFL that warrants a 6 game ban? It's several witnesses against one person. The report also shows blatant lies by the alleged victim and attempts from her to get other witnesses to lie. This is not hearsay, it is actual documented evidence.

I think you have to disregard the DV issue with T.T. just based on witness testimony. Where Zeke is still in trouble is with the Parade incident which leads me to believe that the suspension will not be totally lifted.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So what I read in the report was a lot of witnesses stating that they never saw any wounds on her prior to the fight with the other woman. One witness even stated he was with her at a pool with her wearing a bikini and saw nothing on her body.

Now I am not saying something physical did or didn't happened between Zeke and her, but if you base it off the sworn affidavits, how can this been a slam dunk case for the NFL that warrants a 6 game ban? It's several witnesses against one person. The report also shows blatant lies by the alleged victim and attempts from her to get other witnesses to lie. This is not hearsay, it is actual documented evidence.

I think you have to disregard the DV issue with T.T. just based on witness testimony. Where Zeke is still in trouble is with the Parade incident which leads me to believe that the suspension will not be totally lifted.

If they suspend him a game or 2 for that I wouldn't even object nor should he. But they can't suspend him on DV just by her word alone. I still stay it's slander.

 

[TheCount]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

When they went after Brady like they did it just about told everyone all they cared about was showing who was in charge here. People get sick of these things and they don't care. I agree I don't think anything's going to change. I don't even thing the suspension's getting reduced. The best Zeke can do is clear his name and make the NFL look bad again which they do with every one of these cases.

 

[CowboysRule]

So what I read in the report was a lot of witnesses stating that they never saw any wounds on her prior to the fight with the other woman. One witness even stated he was with her at a pool with her wearing a bikini and saw nothing on her body.

Now I am not saying something physical did or didn't happened between Zeke and her, but if you base it off the sworn affidavits, how can this been a slam dunk case for the NFL that warrants a 6 game ban? It's several witnesses against one person. The report also shows blatant lies by the alleged victim and attempts from her to get other witnesses to lie. This is not hearsay, it is actual documented evidence.

I think you have to disregard the DV issue with T.T. just based on witness testimony. Where Zeke is still in trouble is with the Parade incident which leads me to believe that the suspension will not be totally lifted.

NO HE IS NOT! This investigation was just related to the DV incident.

 

[aikemirv]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

If a judge happens to feel this way the NFL is going to pay big time...

"At best the process and subsequent decision reeks of gross negligence, and at worst it bears the appearance of malicious intent with a potential goal of striking a huge public relations win in the realm of domestic violence."

They are going to be guilty of slander and libel if a judge feels there was gross negligence or malicious intent!!

 

[CyberB0b]

Thompson is a money-hungry bimbo that is butt-hurt because Zeke finally realized that he can't have her present him when he gets his HOF award as a Cowboy; thus, he dumped her

Even if all of that is true, he still could have done it.

 

[diefree666]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

It WILL BE a court case. And look how far Brady got; and its arguable that Zeke has a stronger case.

 

[Stash]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

It may not be a court case yet, but I feel that it soon will be.

And I believe that it will come down to the NFL vs the 6th amendment to the Constitution, in which an individual is "innocent until proven guilty".

That is specifically what is attempted to be circumvented here.

 

[Stash]

Even if all of that is true, he still could have done it.

And the burden is to prove that he did it, not to prove he didn't.

Something the NFL apparently forgot.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I want to know what the NFL is going to do about Eli Manning's fake memorabilia scheme

 

[CyberB0b]

And the burden is to prove that he did it, not to prove he didn't.

Something the NFL apparently forgot.

The NFL just has to prove it was likely that he did it. They don't have the same burden a criminal prosecution has.