The officiating in our games. Is it just me

[DallasEast]

No, it's bad in all games.

There are just too many rules to begin with, and too many nuances to each rule.

The NFL needs to just throw the rule book in the trash and start over. It should be five-page pamphlet, not a five-book reference book series.

When the "network officiating expert" is wrong half the time on replay reviews, you know that NOBODY really knows the rules, not even the referees.

^This, although I think five pages is a bit ambitious. Instant replay has been improperly handled so often that it is basically a joke at critical junctures of games.

I used to say the NFL should adopt more technology to officiate games. For example, footballs can be physically outfitted to determined exactly where a play has been ruled dead anywhere on the field. That technology has been around for years. However, I am not certain referees can integrate their professional judgment with technology effectively. I'm not even sure some referees make themselves 100% compliant with technological assistance. Some referees see what they see, no matter how inaccurate they might be and contrary to available technological evidence. So why supply referees with more tech aid if they do not use any of it correctly?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Officiating is bad all across the board.

Of course it seems like worse for the Cowboys because we're Cowboys fans so we notice it even more when it's happening to us.

But it's really piss poor all across the board.

 

[31smackdown]

What I really hate is when you watch a game, not just a Cowboys game and the flags come out late, almost like the refs were taking into account the effect the play has on the game before throwing the flag. The McFadden screen was a good example of that. If you are a conspiracy theorist it sometimes looks very suspicious like they are trying to keep games close, shave points or manipulate the game in some way, but it's so hard to be able to prove something like that when you are watching a sport that you could probably call a penalty on 1/3rd of the plays if you really wanted to.

 

[xwalker]

or do we seem to constantly get the short end of the stick? The refs pick yesterday to emphasize the pick play? And the play on third down that Mo made to stop a drive was nearly textbook technique. Yes he did (barely) touch his arm just before the ball got there but it had absolutely had no bearing on the play and it is rarely that that close against us. That continued a TD drive. These two calls were an 11 point swing that the home team did not need especially when you consider all that we were up against.

I also wonder if there is a stat that show how many pass blocking holding calls the Giants have gotten against us in the last 10 years? They never got called even when Spencer, Ratliff and Ware were in their prime. Watching many games this year there seems to be a bias towards the Giants and Steelers and a bias totally against anything Dallas Cowboys.

This season just makes the bogus Dez overturned catch all the more painful. Am I wrong about the officiating? Is it just me?

There are games where I think an individual ref might have a bias against the Cowboys; however, I think this game was more about incompetence.

There was a game earlier in the season where the Cowboys had 18 penalties and the opponent had about 5, IIRC. That ref crew seemed a bit biased.

 

[jobberone]

or do we seem to constantly get the short end of the stick? The refs pick yesterday to emphasize the pick play? And the play on third down that Mo made to stop a drive was nearly textbook technique. Yes he did (barely) touch his arm just before the ball got there but it had absolutely had no bearing on the play and it is rarely that that close against us. That continued a TD drive. These two calls were an 11 point swing that the home team did not need especially when you consider all that we were up against.

I also wonder if there is a stat that show how many pass blocking holding calls the Giants have gotten against us in the last 10 years? They never got called even when Spencer, Ratliff and Ware were in their prime. Watching many games this year there seems to be a bias towards the Giants and Steelers and a bias totally against anything Dallas Cowboys.

This season just makes the bogus Dez overturned catch all the more painful. Am I wrong about the officiating? Is it just me?

Not just you but probably not a conspiracy theory. I easily could be wrong about that. There's a lot of money riding on these games and it would be naive to think no ref has ever taken money although I doubt it. If you think some are biased then maybe. I suspect that is subconscious.

 

[JoeKing]

or do we seem to constantly get the short end of the stick? The refs pick yesterday to emphasize the pick play? And the play on third down that Mo made to stop a drive was nearly textbook technique. Yes he did (barely) touch his arm just before the ball got there but it had absolutely had no bearing on the play and it is rarely that that close against us. That continued a TD drive. These two calls were an 11 point swing that the home team did not need especially when you consider all that we were up against.

I also wonder if there is a stat that show how many pass blocking holding calls the Giants have gotten against us in the last 10 years? They never got called even when Spencer, Ratliff and Ware were in their prime. Watching many games this year there seems to be a bias towards the Giants and Steelers and a bias totally against anything Dallas Cowboys.

This season just makes the bogus Dez overturned catch all the more painful. Am I wrong about the officiating? Is it just me?

It's not just you. The refs have had it in for the Cowboys for many years. Many folks will tell you it can't possibly be true but it is.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

^This, although I think five pages is a bit ambitious. Instant replay has been improperly handled so often that it is basically a joke at critical junctures of games.

I used to say the NFL should adopt more technology to officiate games. For example, footballs can be physically outfitted to determined exactly where a play has been ruled dead anywhere on the field. That technology has been around for years. However, I am not certain referees can integrate their professional judgment with technology effectively. I'm not even sure some referees make themselves 100% compliant with technological assistance. Some referees see what they see, no matter how inaccurate they might be and contrary to available technological evidence. So why supply referees with more tech aid if they do not use any of it correctly?

You gonna affix all players knee pads with sensors too? Not sure what your pitch accomplishes

 

[LandryFan]

I thought Mo did interfere...he had both arms around him while the ball was in the air.

On the int by Cassel on the deep throw that fluttered, Williams is running, sees the ball is short and tries to slow down....the Giants CB runs directly into him with his back turned to the ball and hinders him from coming back to the ball which is intercepted. That is textbook pass interference.

I was screaming at the no call on that as soon as I saw the replay. I was also wondering where Buck and Troy were on that no call since they seemed to be nitpicking everything else. They showed it more than once, and neither of them even mentioned it.

 

[CATCH17]

or do we seem to constantly get the short end of the stick? The refs pick yesterday to emphasize the pick play? And the play on third down that Mo made to stop a drive was nearly textbook technique. Yes he did (barely) touch his arm just before the ball got there but it had absolutely had no bearing on the play and it is rarely that that close against us. That continued a TD drive. These two calls were an 11 point swing that the home team did not need especially when you consider all that we were up against.

I also wonder if there is a stat that show how many pass blocking holding calls the Giants have gotten against us in the last 10 years? They never got called even when Spencer, Ratliff and Ware were in their prime. Watching many games this year there seems to be a bias towards the Giants and Steelers and a bias totally against anything Dallas Cowboys.

This season just makes the bogus Dez overturned catch all the more painful. Am I wrong about the officiating? Is it just me?

To me it looks like they use our games as a platform to show off the new rules they are trying to implement because they know we will get the highest ratings.



It made me angry that Pereira couldn't bring himself to say that the ref made a bad call against us. Very telling.

 

[LandryFan]

Interesting point. Like a lot of people still swear that hitchens interfered with pettigrew last year in the playoffs. It FELT like a penalty. But it really wasnt. And technically speaking you're right i thought that too, that Williams clearly was interfered with, but it doesn't FEEL like a penalty bc it was an awful pass and the safety was all over it anyway.

It's like how romo won't get a roughing call. It doesn't really feel like a penalty bc he's always running around anyway.

And that's kind of how officials determine whether an infraction has occurred...they throw a flag when they FEEL like it.

 

[Doomsay]

This was a blatant push off by Antonio Brown and the ref was right on the play. It nearly changed the outcome of their game. I cant believe there is no bias in NFL officiating.
Believe me it was much worse live.

NE
Giants
Steelers
Packers

All get above average #'s of beneficial game changing calls. The refs often seem to pad the ledger with meaningless calls against the Fav 4 to even out the totals after the game is out of reach.

 

[LandryFan]

It really is a league-wide problem.

...and the guy in charge of the officials should be held accountable for the pathetic officiating. Unfortunately, accountability anywhere in the league office is extremely difficult to come by.

 

[StylisticS]

I though Mo interfered as well. But that penalty on the screen was terrible.

 

[pancakeman]

So yes, I do think we got hosed by the officials. Always seems to happen. Even the interception that got overturned, it was questionable that there was a clear shot showing that.

Uh, you lost me there. Slow-mo reply showed it hitting the ground unquestionably.

 

[DogFace]

No, it's bad in all games.

There are just too many rules to begin with, and too many nuances to each rule.

The NFL needs to just throw the rule book in the trash and start over. It should be five-page pamphlet, not a five-book reference book series.

When the "network officiating expert" is wrong half the time on replay reviews, you know that NOBODY really knows the rules, not even the referees.

Is wish you were right. Please show me one example of a call so blatantly poor as the Street Pi.

The late hit on Romo that wasn't called bu Moore the last game is the only one close I've ever seen.

 

[DogFace]

It's just you, officiating is horrible all over the league.

Show an example of one as bad as the Steet call. Or close.

 

[erod]

Is wish you were right. Please show me one example of a call so blatantly poor as the Street Pi.

The late hit on Romo that wasn't called bu Moore the last game is the only one close I've ever seen.

Oh, good gosh. Try every game played this year.

Get the NFL Ticket red zone channel. It's a comedy of officiating errors across the league.

Yes, it was an awful call, but it's all too common.

 

[DogFace]

Oh, good gosh. Try every game played this year.

Get the NFL Ticket red zone channel. It's a comedy of officiating errors across the league.

Yes, it was an awful call, but it's all too common.

Give me an example. You will not see one so made up as the Street one. Ever. It was just oddly bad.

 

[LandryFan]

Instant replay has been improperly handled so often that it is basically a joke at critical junctures of games.

Yep. In the Philly/Carolina game last night, officials ruled that Philly intercepted the ball. Several replay angles clearly (in my mind) showed that a Carolina player's butt was on the ground before the ball was ripped out and taken by Philly (it was close, but the player was clearly down). So, they go to review where you expect the erroneous call to get corrected. What's the Verdict? "After further review, the ruling on the field stands". One would think that with the ability to review plays with slow motion and various angles, that they would get it right 99% of the time. Anymore, it's about a 50-50 proposition.

 

[LandryFan]

To me it looks like they use our games as a platform to show off the new rules they are trying to implement because they know we will get the highest ratings.



It made me angry that Pereira couldn't bring himself to say that the ref made a bad call against us. Very telling.

That guy is a joke. It is very rare that he will criticize any call no matter how bad.