The other reasons this HC job is unattractive

[Bobhaze]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

 

[DasTex]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Someone just mentioned that this job would be interesting if we did have a younger QB that the new coach could mold or even getting a new QB. We have a vet that's been here 10 years that we're STILL trying to mold and he's stuck in his way with the organization backing him up. We have a lot of holes, but we have some cap space to use, which could make it intriguing, hoping the coach convinces Jerry that we need to use that money to better this team

 

[Coogiguy03]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

2-3 years he's stuck with Dak, and the new coach has to act like he's happy with that

 

[CowboysRule]

Isn't there already a thread about this full of complaining about Jones? Seriously, can we just start a new forum threads where all the Jones complaints can go? I get it, I really do. But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

 

[big dog cowboy]

• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, you can’t seriously compete.

I'll never understand the Cowboys thinking when it comes to signing outside FA's. They don't need to sign those big name big dollar players. But at least sign some decent players and not bargain bin one year stop gap players.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

It would have made more sense after signing Dak to that big contract to keep McCarthy. Because starting over with another new offense and with all the holes this team has…

Whatever anyone thought of McCarthy, he was the best HC we’ve had since the Big Tuna. He had problems but unless the Jerry leopard changes his spots we have likely taken a significant step backward.

 

[nate dizzle]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

This is absolutely one of the biggest obstacles in landing a quality candidate that hasn't been a HC before. Who wants to come and hitch their 1st attempt to that disaster.

 

[Bobhaze]

Isn't there already a thread about this full of complaining about Jones? Seriously, can we just start a new forum threads where all the Jones complaints can go? I get it, I really do. But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

No one is forcing you to read or comment. I appreciate your point of view but any thread lives or dies by the interest people have in commenting on it.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I'll never understand the Cowboys thinking when it comes to signing outside FA's. They don't need to sign those big name big dollar players. But at least sign some decent players and not bargain bin one year stop gap players.

Look at post #5 (sounds like something that would be said to me)

You're totally right, people confuse signing free agents with getting the TOP name, it's not that serious, we don't have to do that, but at least get someone that's able to play at a decent level, instead of these cheap players we covet that are only depth!!

 

[Coogiguy03]

No one is forcing you to read or comment. I appreciate your point of view but any thread lives or dies by the interest people have in commenting on it.

Haze you know I go through the same, and I utter the same comments!!! Uhhhhh

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luste

This ^^^^ I would hope got Jerry's attention. When you have your HOF former QB on national TV saying your franchise/team is just another team, nothing special.....that has to sting.

 

[quickccc]

Jones drama and politics aside, Dallas Cowbots are still and will always be "AMERICA TEAM " ....that's still a stand out aura among the sports world... fans, media,.sponsorship, marketing, television gods, memorabilia, players, and coaches....

Same way we keep hearing regarded draftees saying they would love to play for cowboys, there are coaches , head coaches even the more regarded ones..that will love to play for the Dallas Cowboys...

Of course there are inside problems but the aura still appeals to the outside world.

 

[gtb1943]

An established coach with any balls is going to demand the same power BP had.

Jethro said after he was gone that he would never give up that much power again.

I hope that his age and desperation force him into doing this; otherwise no matter who we get they will fail

 

[gtb1943]

Jones drama and politics aside, Dallas Cowbots are still and will always be "AMERICA TEAM " ....that's still a stand out aura among the sports world... fans, media,.sponsorship, marketing, television gods, memorabilia, players, and coaches....

Same way we keep hearing regarded draftees saying they would love to play for cowboys, there are coaches , head coaches even the more regarded ones..that will love to play for the Dallas Cowboys...

Of course there are inside problems but the aura still appeals to the outside world.

To the OUTSIDE WORLD
to established NFL coaches?
No.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

Never understimate the ego of these coaches though. There was a coach who said he can make Tim Tebow a QB in this league....and went down with the ship. These guys are arrogant and believe they are the best.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

An established coach with any balls is going to demand the same power BP had.

Jethro said after he was gone that he would never give up that much power again.

I hope that his age and desperation force him into doing this; otherwise no matter who we get they will fail

You can tell based on who he hires. If he hires a Kellen Moore type then he's learned nothing.....

 

[Coogiguy03]

You can tell based on who he hires. If he hires a Kellen Moore type then he's learned nothing.....

he's learned that we're trying to make Dak the best he can be or something lol

 

[rags747]

The Cowboys head coach job is right there with the Yankees, Celtics, LA Dodgers. Everything else is 2nd class. Don’t buy the Fake News narrative! Ty…

 

[Blackspider214]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

Depends who the coach is. If it's someone who has ties to this franchise, like a Kellen Moore or Witten, I have a feeling they get the Garrett treatment. They will stay well past their expiration date. Not sure about Deion Sanders, since he also has history here.