The other reasons this HC job is unattractive

[fivetwos]

Some say the team has a ton of holes. I am not sure that is completely true. This team has at least 8-8 talent. A good draft and an investment in free agency could easily get them to be a contender for the division title. While not an elite group, the OL played pretty decently over the second half of the year with young talent that should get better with more experience. Dowdle had a nice second half of the year once they realized he should have been the lead back all year.

People say we don't know how to manage the cap, but we have been able to manage and keep top tier talent at RB, QB, WR, LG, LT, DE and will be able to resign the most important free agents we have. We also can make more than 80m in cap space without touching Dak's deal.

This is not an awful job, but it does take a coach that can handle the heat.

The roster is not awful, and you’re right that a few nice moves puts them right back in the mix, but we both know that not going to happen.

They will do their draft and assume that theirs was so much better than everyone else’s that the gap has closed. Come on.

They pay the wrong people far too often and seem to end up outsmarting themselves. Wait to sign guys, then when they get injured sign them anyway for no discount. If they don’t get injured just pay top of the market, period. That “leaves falling” thing isnt working so well.

They also seem to expect a coach to come in and overcome the mistakes they make just because they are paid a few million a year…near the bottom of the league.

They aren’t championship caliber, and you know that. The two that run the team don’t know the difference, nor do they understand when they are on the cusp and need a slight boost to get over the top.

 

[fivetwos]

Well said and all true. I hope McCarthy gets a chance to be an NFL head coach again, free of the alcohol drenched Jerry to take away all his power. The Jonesboys play Chicago next season in Chicago and it would be interesting to see our new castrated “head coach” compete against McCarthy.

Ya know I truly think there’s something to what I’ve been saying for some time…

Third chances as a HC are rare, but MM seems to be in reasonable demand. It’s probably known and accepted around the league that the situation in Dallas was untenable, as far as trying to have successful with the meddling and lack of free agent participation.

From here, does Jerry and kid actually believe that that ‘draft only’ thing…when everyone else has one….is how you get better immediately?

I think much of the league knows these two are fools, but aren’t going to complain.

 

[KMY_Amber]

It's the richest franchise in sports, it's the Dallas Cowboys. For a younger coach, this is indeed a very attractive job...roster and owner aside.

 

[john van brocklin]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

Yup, so sad we are a second tier team.

 

[BHendri5]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

The HC position for the Cowboys is a coveted position, stop believing that it’s not

 

[KingCorcoran]

The HC position for the Cowboys is a coveted position, stop believing that it’s not

Most fans assume it’s not a coveted job based on who gets hired to do it.

 

[Chasing6]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

Interesting........those 5 other examples still have everything to do with Jerry Jones.

 

[Diehardblues]

Interesting........those 5 other examples still have everything to do with Jerry Jones.

Right. With Jethro’s hand in every aspect( those 5 other examples )it still makes him the biggest obstacle for any incoming HC’s.

 

[Diehardblues]

Most fans assume it’s not a coveted job based on who gets hired to do it.

It speaks for itself.

In the end we are either not pursuing the top prospects or not attracting them.

 

[Diehardblues]

The HC position for the Cowboys is a coveted position, stop believing that it’s not

It once was . And it could at some point become again. But unfortunately I tend to agree with Aikman.

Maybe it’s a tough pill to swallow for all Cowboy fans .

 

[the playmaker]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

Jones IS THE PROBLEM!! not Dak(I don't like)!
in Italy " è un francobollo che devi far valere"
translated " it's just a stamp that you have to enhance"
Jerry is a "stamp collector"...Dak means: tv spots...sponsor...etc...means $$$$ milion dollars
WE are DC fans...Jones family ARE NOT!
DC are just a BUSINESS

 

[CowboysRule]

Thanks for keeping this thread alive. I wasn’t aware you’d been issued a cardboard sheriffs badge to moderate posts that were made well within the guidelines of this forum. You’re gonna be busy as a bee posting on anti Jerry threads.

There's just a handful of you all on here that seem to enjoy hating on Jerry moreso than actually rooting for the team. But go on, keep complaining.

 

[ArtClink]

There's just a handful of you all on here that seem to enjoy hating on Jerry moreso than actually rooting for the team. But go on, keep complaining.

Call me a realist, grounded in Cowboys history so I know how this 30 year movie ends every year (short of the NFC championship).

 

[CowboysRule]

Call me a realist, grounded in Cowboys history so I know how this 30 year movie ends every year (short of the NFC championship).

So what's the point? You and you're old little friends, mostly BobHaze and Zrinkill, have all devolved into just old men yelling at clouds.

 

[Bobhaze]

So what's the point? You and you're old little friends, mostly BobHaze and Zrinkill, have all devolved into just old men yelling at clouds.

Dude…this is your 5th post on a thread you say you don’t want to talk about. This is an opinion forum. You’re welcome to comment here of course and any opinion you have is cool. But looks like on this thread the person yelling at clouds is you.

 

[blueblood70]

Call me a realist, grounded in Cowboys history so I know how this 30 year movie ends every year (short of the NFC championship).

That's the case why are you still around I mean that's his point do nothing but complain 24/7 I mean if the Cowboys weren't worth it anymore why are you spending extra time I mean you must have value in your time why are you using it just to complain about a product you no longer support because if you're still a Cowboys fan after all this knowing what you know then why are you still around i don't get it!!

Here's the problem with your philosophy explain to me why so many years have passed and yet Dallas is still in the top three in Super Bowl wins they're still number two overall in win percentage over their history they still are right now top 6IN regular season win percentage over the last decade I mean it seems like they're still filling the stadium up but other teams have not literally passed them yet guys who support the Cleveland Browns I see him come out in the snow their fan base literally hasn't even had division title since 1989 so what's your point?!?

I keep trying to explain how sports work it's reciprocal things will eventually circle back around because right now there's still only three teams in the NFL since 1990 because right now there's still only three teams in the NFL since 1989 that have three or more Super Bowl titles and that would be one of them the Dallas Cowboys how are they still in that group after all this time if it was so easy just stacking championships I mean literally it was the New England Patriots and now and I'm gonna end with this Kansas City Chiefs 'cause they're the new dynasty these are all dynasties these are teams that got on a roll and stayed on a roll for a significant amount of time they figured it all out it does come around eventually back around and that's why I'm bringing up the Kansas City Chiefs last they had a 56 year drought in Super Bowl wins that's twice as much almost right there are other teams that have zero Super Bowl appearances there's some that have no Super Bowl wins at all and like I said there are teams that struggle to even get in the playoffs the Dallas Cowboys have been in the playoffs 5 at the last eight years am I happy that they're not getting the championship games or Super Bowls no I'm not but I'm not gonna complain about it because I choose to be a fan and I understand what that means and I understand the history I understand the current situation I don't need to be told and reminded of a drought that's not even the worst in NFL history but far and by far not the worst in any sports...

And I would just add PS that the other 3 sport in our general DFW area which would be The Mavericks the Rangers and the stars only have 3 total titles ever like amongst all three together they have 3 Jerry has three I mean we keep making that a point of emphasis and I get it we need to get back to the NFC championship game some of them have been closer but the Texas Rangers up until 2023 has never won a championship and they're very rarely even competing for one they're usually pretty bad and yet somehow now they're being talked about as well look they have a title recently but Jerry doesn't know Jerry has three the other three teams have three you see the problem here and overall Jerry has three the old regime only had two and I realize they got back tomorrow championship games and lost but they got there I get the whole concept but that isn't winning Super Bowls Jerry has three Super Bowls he has some credit with a lot of us not that we support him but we support the Dallas Cowboys we're not going to sit 24 hours a day seven days a week and complain about something that's a choice...​

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Look I'm as frustrated as anyone else with my sports teams when they don't win it and they're not in it for a very long time this is not something I'm happy about but it's something I accept this is just what it is and someday we will be rewarded for our patience but in the mean time we're gonna sit here and defend the team because that's what's important not Jerry the team when people are just lifting their leg on the team 24 hours a day you're damn right you're gonna have responses like this from some of us..​

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Check out how it's structured
No trade clause
Almost all guaranteed

not much different than Hurts, goff, love, etc....so why are they able to sign FAs, and be competitive and we are stuck in mud.

cap management. his salary is about 5M more than Goff, yet detroit went 15-2. only about 7M more than Hurts, and they got the second seed. and they signed barkley this off season.
Detroit top 6 salaries, is 170M. cowboys 163M. Philly, 193M, yet they signed top notch FAs, and stayed competitive. we keep hearing But Dak Contract!!!

you have bought into what stephen and jerry want to sell, due to your emotional bias against Dak. so you are parroting them, which is exactly what they want. so they don't have to spend in FA and lay out a lot of cash. that's all it is.

now, does he deserve it? a whole other issue and discussion and there is 18373 thread on that alone. I advocated for both parties to walk away from each other and it would be best for both, but idiot GM had no QB under contract for 25, and no plans and milked the contract publicity until the last hour. literally.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

They tried to keep MM.

MM ran as fast as he could. he was in the assylum and saw first hand the craziness