The overturned fumble

[Starstruck22]

No argument there. The NFL and its rules leave a lot of room for subjective decisions by the refs. Split second subjective decisions. It’s brutal.

Not that difficult. Indisputable evidence is obvious it is not subjective. That is why it is written that way. What is subjective is their bogus assumptions about the fumble.

 

[Starstruck22]

The NFL should pony up the video that shows indisputable evidence of possession prior to hitting the ground. They wont and cant. Another way they can steal games from teams they hate and D is top on their list. They do it spotting the ball all the time. It its Dallas move it back one yard, other team keep it where it crossed the first down line.

 

[adwar]

Ok gotcha. Good chat. Neither replay shows roughing. Now we are going with a hit near neck area… the replay Marcus shows is contact to the chest. I will easily and readily admit roughing on this play with ANY replay that shows it clearly. The broadcast was terrible on this play. They never showed a replay immediately and then only showed these 2 angles that never really showed the contact. Roughing has been a real hot topic this year and it feels like they are protecting these calls now. They have every angle of this play and we haven’t seen anything

 

[Doomsay]

Bull.

All you see is that the ball is brought back towards his body. There is ZERO evidence that he had control of it, because that angle didn’t show that.

All we know is that he fumbled, brought the ball back towards his body, and then lost it completely as he hit the ground.

More than likely that means he NEVER regained full control of the ball. The fumble should’ve stood.

EVEN IF you want to argue that he likely did regain full control of the ball, there is zero angle that shows that conclusively, which is what the standard of proof is supposed to be.

Can’t like this more. Perfect analysis.

 

[Doomsay]

Clearly the RB had regained possession before he went down. The replay from the end zone (behind the RB) was the best angle. It was easy to see he had the ball when his knee hit the turf.

Nope

 

[MarcusRock]

It wasn't a terrible call. You are just whining because that's what you seemingly like to do - whine about officials and think they are out to get the Cowboys.

Maybe it's just the same guy but with 2,000 individual accounts on here.

 

[pansophy]

Clearly the RB had regained possession before he went down. The replay from the end zone (behind the RB) was the best angle. It was easy to see he had the ball when his knee hit the turf.

Clearly that’s what they had to believe but the ball was not clearly in view and was on the ground when it came back into full view. I didn’t see anything conclusive to make me be believe he fumbled the ball, regained control, and then lost it again after he was down.

 

[tyke1doe]

Didn't think it would be overturned, but I'm not mad at the ultimate call.

 

[TWOK11]

The turnovers taken off the board were incredibly frustrating. They scored a TD on both drives, that game could have easily been a 59-16 sort of final

 

[Runwildboys]

Here's a zoomed in video.

Honestly can only guess that he struck close to his neck from that view. There was an official right there with a good view, so I'm guessing it's a legit enough call.

 

[adwar]

Maybe it's just the same guy but with 2,000 individual accounts on here.

You cracked the case…… Perry Mason.

 

[RonWashington]

Honestly can only guess that he struck close to his neck from that view. There was an official right there with a good view, so I'm guessing it's a legit enough call.

Golston finally get to the QB and the flags fly . Can’t catch a break

 

[TequilaCowboy]

There was no CLEAR view of the football from any of the angles provided. The ref/replay office should not have been able to overturn the call on the field based on assumption. The call on the field should stand in that scenario.

 

[GORICO]

That was awful. He never regained control after he fumbled running into the offensive linemen.

i like final score though?

 

[GORICO]

Golston finally get to the QB and the flags fly . Can’t catch a break

i swear Ron every time i see that little rascal doggie of yours...just want to grab him and give him big hug

 

[RonWashington]

i swear Ron every time i see that little rascal doggie of yours...just want to grab him and give him big hug

Yes thanks man , he’s a keeper . He’s got a permanent “ franchise “ tag on him .

 

[MarcusRock]

Honestly can only guess that he struck close to his neck from that view. There was an official right there with a good view, so I'm guessing it's a legit enough call.

Well it's not just striking close to the head and neck. There's also all of this.

RULE 12
ARTICLE 11. ROUGHING THE PASSER. Because the act of passing often puts the quarterback (or any other player attempting
a pass) in a position where he is particularly vulnerable to injury, special rules against roughing the passer apply. The Referee
has principal responsibility for enforcing these rules. Any physical acts against a player who is in a passing posture (i.e. before,
during, or after a pass) which, in the Referee’s judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as fouls.
The Referee will be guided by the following principles:
(a) Roughing will be called if, in the Referee’s judgment, a pass rusher clearly should have known that the ball had already left
the passer’s hand before contact was made; pass rushers are responsible for being aware of the position of the ball in passing
situations; the Referee will use the release of the ball from the passer’s hand as his guideline that the passer is now fully
protected; once a pass has been released by a passer, a rushing defender may make direct contact with the passer only up
through the rusher’s first step after such release (prior to second step hitting the ground); thereafter the rusher must be making
an attempt to avoid contact and must not continue to “drive through” or otherwise forcibly contact the passer; incidental or
inadvertent contact by a player who is easing up or being blocked into the passer will not be considered significant.​

 

[Vanilla2]

Told my brother that if it would’ve stood of it was polllard

 

[Mannix]

Spilled milk.

Not spilled milk...that reversal...at home...doesn't happen to any of the other 31 teams.

 

[GORICO]

Yes thanks man , he’s a keeper . He’s got a permanent “ franchise “ tag on him .

does he pull in 20 mil a year???