The Paula Deen controversy

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vta;4386308 said:
So what is the cry? Honesty in advertising or promotion? We have a better chance of passing gold bricks than that happening; all advertising contains a good measure of dishonesty and we're in no position anymore to complain about someone making a mint from being anything but completely honest. We've given it our blessings for years by remaining customers no matter who's selling what.

very true.
 

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Hoofbite;4386309 said:
Of course they do, which is why they should be informed if their favorite chef has a chronic condition as a result of an unhealthy lifestyle that includes eating said recipes.

She withheld pertinent information and profited off of it.

These things don't exist in a vacuum. Everybody knows about cholesterol and the effects particular foods have on it. Just because someone is forging ahead with it's use is no excuse for anyone to ignore the information we're all aware of.
 

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Doomsday101;4386300 said:
and driving a car can lead to death. There are a lot of things that can lead to death. Eating this type of food is not going to kill you, now if you eat this kind of food every day then yes it can be bad for you. The key in life is moderation

Oh I agree about moderation. I am a Texan and love lots of southern cooking. Chicken Fried Steak is one of my all time favorites. (of course, you really can't get that here in NY and that is good for me) Even in moderation though, it's still not good for you. You just won't get diabetes from eating a single bad thing a week. The problem is, most people don't just eat a single bad thing a week. Especially the people who actually buy Paula's cookbook.
 

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Duane;4386284 said:
That may be the way some people in the South eat but we grew up on a lot healthier food. I'm not saying we didn't eat fried pork chops once a week but we also ate a lot of beans and rice, fresh vegetables, chicken, etc...

So Paula may call what she makes Southern food but it doesn't represent what a lot of the cooking in the South is.

Agreed. My mother is from Mississippi & is a great Southern cook... but she never made Krispy-Kreme burgers or deep fried lasagna or any of the other extreme things that Paula comes up with.

Type 2 diabetes primarily comes from carrying excess body fat (obesity), which her food is guilty of causing. So does other foods, of course, but her recipes are generally over the top.

I read that she hid her diabetes for over 3 years. The only reason it came out was that the drug/treatment company she now is a spokesman for approached her about altering some of her recipes to be 'diabetic friendly'. She responded, "how did you know I was diabetic?" And that is how the story got out. She didn't volunteer it, it just slipped out. Now, some in the media are demonizing her for hiding it while others are saying she is courageous for talking about it. Truth is, she is neither courageous nor is she a demon.

While I think it would have been responsible and admirable of her to have been forthcoming about her diagnosis & used her celebrity status to help others prevent themselves from falling into the same trap... I don't think its fair to be disappointed or shocked that she did not do this. Not everyone fits in the Superman outfit... (especially Paula ;) )
 

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Hoofbite;4386309 said:
Of course they do, which is why they should be informed if their favorite chef has a chronic condition as a result of an unhealthy lifestyle that includes eating said recipes.

She withheld pertinent information and profited off of it.

Her health is her business not yours or anyone else. Now that people know she is diabetic do you think those people will not eat this food? Give me a break

People there is enough information out there about the kinds of food that are considered healthy. people who eat her style of cooking know that is contains a lot of fat it is not a secret and eating this type of food on a regular basis can be bad for you.

Frankly I get tired of his high priced sissy running about popping off about being a Vegan and act like everyone should be like them.
 

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Sam I Am;4386316 said:
Oh I agree about moderation. I am a Texan and love lots of southern cooking. Chicken Fried Steak is one of my all time favorites. (of course, you really can't get that here in NY and that is good for me) Even in moderation though, it's still not good for you. You just won't get diabetes from eating a single bad thing a week. The problem is, most people don't just eat a single bad thing a week. Especially the people who actually buy Paula's cookbook.

Then that is on them that is their choice they made it deadly themselfs. You make it sound as if her book should be banned. They use to say people need to stay out of other peoples bed rooms well people need to stay out of my kitchen. :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;4386321 said:
Her health is her business not yours or anyone else. Now that people know she is diabetic do you think those people will not eat this food? Give me a break

People there is enough information out there about the kinds of food that are considered healthy. people who eat her style of cooking know that is contains a lot of fat it is not a secret and eating this type of food on a regular basis can be bad for you.

Frankly I get tired of his high priced sissy running about popping off about being a Vegan and act like everyone should be like them.

It has nothing to do with Vegan, there are plenty of healthy diets with meat or animal products.
 

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Doomsday101;4386324 said:
Then that is on them that is their choice they made it deadly themselfs. You make it sound as if her book should be banned. They use to say people need to stay out of other peoples bed rooms well people need to stay out of my kitchen. :laugh2:

Ban? No. I fully believe in freedoms we have. I would just hope she would change her ways. I look at her like I look at tobacco companies. She is selling people a path of destruction. They are free to buy it and she is free to sell it. It doesn't mean I have to like what she is doing.
 

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MonsterD;4386325 said:
It has nothing to do with Vegan, there are plenty of healthy diets with meat or animal products.

Vegan is for the birds. I will cut my fat / sugar in-take down to be healthy, I would rather eat meat and die early than be a damn Vegan! :laugh2:
 

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MonsterD;4386325 said:
It has nothing to do with Vegan, there are plenty of healthy diets with meat or animal products.

True but again some people enjoy other types of foods. I'm tired of people telling me what I should eat it is not your business if people do not like Dean meals then don't eat them it is that simple. I'm sure she does upset some people but then they get upset over alot of things I don't care
 

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Sam I Am;4386328 said:
Vegan is for the birds. I will cut my fat / sugar in-take down to be healthy, I would rather eat meat and die early than be a damn Vegan! :laugh2:

I have nothing against them, but there are good ways of eating meat too, healthy meat is available with no processing or excess sodium, etc.
 

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Sam I Am;4386326 said:
Ban? No. I fully believe in freedoms we have. I would just hope she would change her ways. I look at her like I look at tobacco companies. She is selling people a path of destruction. They are free to buy it and she is free to sell it. It doesn't mean I have to like what she is doing.

Why should she change her ways? You are right you don't have to like it. But I find it funny that you can have your chicken fried steak but we should not eat it.

She is not selling a path of destruction no more than the beer compaines it is up to people to use those products in a responsible manner.

In moderation these type of food are not going to kill you and if a person can't handle moderation in what they eat then they likely can't handle moderation in many things but again that is on them
 

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Doomsday101;4386337 said:
Why should she change her ways? You are right you don't have to like it. But I find it funny that you can have your chicken fried steak but we should not eat it.

Please point me to where I said you cannot eat it. ;)

Doomsday101;4386337 said:
She is not selling a path of destruction no more than the beer compaines it is up to people to use those products in a responsible manner.
Yes, she is and yes, they are.

Doomsday101;4386337 said:
In moderation these type of food are not going to kill you and if a person can't handle moderation in what they eat then they likely can't handle moderation in many things but again that is on them

I have already said this in a previous post. :D
 

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MonsterD;4386332 said:
I have nothing against them, but there are good ways of eating meat too, healthy meat is available with no processing or excess sodium, etc.

That's true, but it is expensive and it's hard to say that everyone can afford healthier foods. Which strikes me as odd that I have to pay extra for what is natural over what is unnatural and costs to add, like preservatives and anti-biotics in the livestock.
 

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Sam I Am;4386344 said:
Please point me to where I said you cannot eat it. ;)

Yes, she is and yes, they are.



I have already said this in a previous post. :D

That is your opinion there are many of them but this one is yours. :laugh2:

So you can eat it but you shouldn't?
 

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Doomsday101;4386347 said:
So you can eat it but you shouldn't?

That is America! You can smoke, but you shouldn't! You can drink, but you shouldn't! You can commit crimes, but you shouldn't! They can all have a price to pay if you do.
 

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Sam I Am;4386353 said:
That is America! You can smoke, but you shouldn't! You can drink, but you shouldn't! You can commit crimes, but you shouldn't! They can all have a price to pay if you do.

You call it a path to destruction I call it a cook book. :laugh2:


Smoking you shouldn't, drinking it is said that having a glass of wine is good for you but having a bottle of wine can be bad. You commit a crime you can go to jail.

I'm one who believers in personal accountability and tend to get aggravated by those who not only want to live their life a certain way but feel they need to tell me to live their way as well.
 

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Doomsday101;4386372 said:
You call it a path to destruction I call it a cook book. :laugh2:

What is a book on how to make a bomb? :D

Paula's book is a heart bomb.
 

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Sam I Am;4386387 said:
What is a book on how to make a bomb? :D

Paula's book is a heart bomb.

Watching the Cowboys is a heart bomb but I do that as well. :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;4386391 said:
Watching the Cowboys is a heart bomb but I do that as well. :laugh2:

No kidding. You can add Texas Rangers World Series to that too. :bang2:
 
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