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Regarding the thought that their defense isn't what it used to be:

Johnson is still their DC. As long as he is there, that defense is scary.
 

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Crown Royal said:
Regarding the thought that their defense isn't what it used to be:

Johnson is still their DC. As long as he is there, that defense is scary.

They were very pedestrian last year, and the D didn't have near the injury issues that the offense had.

That said, they were weakest up the middle last year and Bunkley should help a lot with that. But that secondary looks worse every passing year.
 

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Don't be so quick to think that a top coach can make up for aging/injured/gone players. That is the same mistake many are making with Saunders - suddenly because you have better coaching the team will magically be much better. NOT always true.
 

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phillycowboyslover said:
three unproven guys... one of whom hasn't even been able to get on the field due to injury.


not saying they can't be decent...but not exactly the foundation for a division winning offense.

I think Moats is coming into fruition as a credible RB, along with Mahe. Buckhalter is a proven RB ...if he stays healthy. Now that's all I've got to work with ...what would you say. Would you roll Over and accept the perspective that some of your fandom is giving ...I don't think so.

I thought you might be able to understand that I really believe in my Eagles team. I have no problem accepting the running back talent from your team ...they are older and have more exPerienced. But the Best rbs in the NFL didn't start off being play-makers (well not all of them).

Look at first everyone is saying ...the Eagles always like to throw the ball ...they have no ground attack. Now, the Eagles are starting to re-establish their ground game and won't even give them the benefit of doubt; regardless of how smooth they moved the ball during the opener.

Think what you want, you will anyway. But I really think you've got a surprise coming this year, in the form of the Eagles Offensive unit's ability to score points and win games.

Here's looking up to you ...from under the radar.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Y is that? First off, you should be in the sports business; if you already aren't. You're missing your calling if you can confidently predict how the first team Eagles are going to place merely from watching them p[lay one-quarter.

You only missed a few things ...

McNabb was able to deliver the ball successfully to his receivers; yes including albeit Westbrook. The 1st team Eagles offense moved the ball all the way down field to a touchdown on the first drive.

Did you notice plays exclusively designed for the ground attack; yes albeit Westbrook. And even though Mahe ran well, he is Only the third string RB ...Moats will be starting along side of Westbrook ...and Buckhalter is about 95% healthy.

You may also have noticed that the Eagles 1st team defense held the Raiders 1st string offense and penetrated their OL on several occasions.

But if you didn't notice anything else, at least you should have known that these type of pre-season games are designed as a filtering system primarily to determine what rookies will make the roster, etc.

You have a gift! I'll be looking closely at your first pre-season game.

Whatever Dude,ur team played the absolute worst nfl team possibly ever in the Raiders.I will go so far to say the Eagles will be below .500.That short play action crap only goes so far.
 

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Crown Royal said:
This man speaks of true things.

Memories fade - the Eagles were the best team in the division until last year's injuries. A healthy Eagles team is a dangerous eagles team.

I just hope we don't let them sneak up on us.

Yeah, I guess memories do fade.

Because the Eagles were 4-5 last season before their injuries hit.

McNabb played 9 games and the Eagles were still lousy. They were lucky to win the 6 games that they did.

Go back and look at their games from last year - they weren't good when they still had everyone playing.

They should be a good team this season.

Unfortunately for them, they play in a great division.

They look like a .500 team to me.
 

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juckie said:
Whatever Dude,ur team played the absolute worst nfl team possibly ever in the Raiders.I will go so far to say the Eagles will be below .500.That short play action crap only goes so far.

If you say that to flame me ...ouch! But if you say that because you really see it that way ...that you'll have "splaining" to do this year. Say anything you want, but I'm telling you this because of what I've seen in TC and yesterday's game ...the Eagles will be contenders in 2006! Be reall careful how much you boast otherwise.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
If you say that to flame me ...ouch! But if you say that because you really see it that way ...that you'll have "splaining" to do this year. Say anything you want, but I'm telling you this because of what I've seen in TC and yesterday's game ...the Eagles will be contenders in 2006! Be reall careful how much you boast otherwise.

And you practice what you preach!

Nobody has to "explain" anything to you - except maybe the realities of football.

Spare your "threats" about how good you think your team is going to be.

As easily as you dismiss your team's obvious shortcomings, most of us dismiss your baseless vote of confidence in your average team.
 

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stasheroo said:
Yeah, I guess memories do fade.

If you remember your 5 Superbowl championships; surely you remember the Eagles winning the NFC Championship in 2004; ultimately playing in the Superbowl. Memory starting to come back now ...

stasheroo said:
Because the Eagles were 4-5 last season before their injuries hit.

Before "their injuries" ...that sound mighty collective to me. You act like you know exactly when each Eagle player got injured. BTW, it was noted that McNabb got Injured earlier than what was initially revealed in 2005.

stasheroo said:
Go back and look at their games from last year - they weren't good when they still had everyone playing.

Don't be affixiated on 2005 ...there's plenty of 2006 to prove your point ...

stasheroo said:
They should be a good team this season.

Can you tell me what makes you say that?


stasheroo said:
Unfortunately for them, they play in a great division.

We shall see. Using your concept, that would make the Eagles a Better team... And In light of a much improved NFC-East division from years past, using your concept retrospectively, wouldn't that have made the Eagles a struggling team in 2000 - 2004 ...or would you just say we were the best of the best of the worst in a struggling NFC-East division.

stasheroo said:
They look like a .500 team to me.

Let's see what Your team looks like on Saturday, against Birds of a different feather in Seattle.
 

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stasheroo said:
Yeah, I guess memories do fade.

Because the Eagles were 4-5 last season before their injuries hit.

McNabb played 9 games and the Eagles were still lousy. They were lucky to win the 6 games that they did.

Go back and look at their games from last year - they weren't good when they still had everyone playing.

They should be a good team this season.

Unfortunately for them, they play in a great division.

They look like a .500 team to me.

McNabb was hurt in game one and it was quite noticeable it affected him. The injury bug bit then.

No McNabb, no wins.
 

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Crown Royal said:
McNabb was hurt in game one and it was quite noticeable it affected him. The injury bug bit then.

No McNabb, no wins.

Odd how he was still able to put up big numbers against mediocre defenses despite his "injuries" isn't it?

Over 300 yards in a win against San Fran?

Over 300 against the Raiders?

About 350 yards against Kansas City?

Only when he played against good defenses did his "injuries" seem to affect him.

Heck, if you remember he was doing his stupid Michael Jackson dance when he ran one in in his last game.

He was moving quite well for being "injured."

Then when he threw that pick and lost the game, he looked like he'd been hit by a car.

What a remarkable change in just a few minutes.....
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
If you remember your 5 Superbowl championships; surely you remember the Eagles winning the NFC Championship in 2004; ultimately playing in the Superbowl. Memory starting to come back now ...

Sure do, against a pathetic, vertically-challenged Falcons team. Big deal. I remember them stumbling into the playoffs without Owens as well, do you?

Phoenix-Talon said:
Before "their injuries" ...that sound mighty collective to me. You act like you know exactly when each Eagle player got injured. BTW, it was noted that McNabb got Injured earlier than what was initially revealed in 2005.

I do. Look it up. McNabb was the first significant injury they had. The rest followed. Again, McNabb was only "hurt" when his play sucked.


Phoenix-Talon said:
Don't be affixiated on 2005 ...there's plenty of 2006 to prove your point ...

Sorry, not buyin' it. I guess it's OK for you to bring up '01 to '04, but we have to disregard more recent history in '05? Please. I'll leave that to the Homers of the world.



Phoenix-Talon said:
Can you tell me what makes you say that?

Sure. They were the division's worst team last year and they've improved the least of all of them. And they've got the league's worst receiving corps.

Phoenix-Talon said:
We shall see. Using your concept, that would make the Eagles a Better team... And In light of a much improved NFC-East division from years past, using your concept retrospectively, wouldn't that have made the Eagles a struggling team in 2000 - 2004 ...or would you just say we were the best of the best of the worst in a struggling NFC-East division.

You answered your own question. They were the best of the worst when the NFC East was at it's weakest. Look at the combined records of the division's other teams during your "Glory Days". No competition. When they finally made the Super Bowl, the NFC was so bad that two .500 teams made the playoffs! How does that speak to the "competition"?


Phoenix-Talon said:
Let's see what Your team looks like on Saturday, against Birds of a different feather in Seattle.

I'm eager to see it. It should be a nice test against the NFC's Super Bowl representatives.
 

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Timbo2st;1306424 said:
juckie....wow that kid definitely doesn't know his stuff.

Cinderella season,u should thank Garcia at least he doesnt choke.The fun will end soon bud.Ironically I kinda want Philthy to win this weekend,then get crushed even in SB.lol.
 

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juckie;1306948 said:
Cinderella season,u should thank Garcia at least he doesnt choke.The fun will end soon bud.Ironically I kinda want Philthy to win this weekend,then get crushed even in SB.lol.

No Cinderella season here ...you must think we are the Bears! The Eagles play good football, and they elevate their game as needed. If you recall, at the beginning of the 2006 season, everyone was saying how our window had closed, how we only had 2nd and 3rd string wide-receivers while everyone else had the big guns ...and how we would be in the NFC-East basement again.

Listen, if we do this ...here's how I see it happening ...

Here's how things are measuring up ...

Offensively speaking:

The Saints have tremendous firepower with wide receivers Joe Horn (questionable with a groin injury) and Marques Colston and running backs Deuce McAllister and Reggie Bush. New Orleans can beat you by spreading the field and throwing the football or running it in the power game.

Defensively speaking:


The Saints rely on speed to cover because of a general lack of size. The line is outstanding, headed by end Will Smith and tackle Hollis Thomas. The Eagles must start quickly and maintain ball control against a defense that allows nearly 5 yards per rushing attempt.

Commentary:

The Saints are over-confident.

Eagles Offensive:

They believe that they are playing the same team that they Once defeated before, under the helm of Donovan McNabb. Not so!
Garcia brings much more elusiveness and the ability to find his receivers, run the ball himself or rely on the superpowers of Brian Westbrook! The Eagles Offensive Line is huge and should be able to effectively run the ball successfully. Not to mention the powerful LJ Smith as Tight-End.

Eagles Defensive:

Brian Dawkins (Weapon X), Jeremiah Trotter, will captain the cast of warriors to stop the Saints emotional ride and expose their weaknesses. While Sheppard is out, this time, Hood is 100% and ready to limit the less than 100% Joe Horn of the Saints.

Let's Go Eagles!
 

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Man he looks happy

28nuggets.1.600.jpg
 

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zrinkill;1307809 said:
Man he looks happy

28nuggets.1.600.jpg

ouch.

Come on, that hurt.

Atleast Webber is finally gone. All they need to do now is get rid of GM Billy King.
 

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Timbo2st;1307832 said:
ouch.

Come on, that hurt.

Atleast Webber is finally gone. All they need to do now is get rid of GM Billy King.

Yea that was kind of a low blow ..... my bad ....

Go ahead and post a pic of Emmitt in a Cards uni ..... I deserve it.
 
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