The Plan to Speed Up the Baseball

Keifer

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You seem woefully unaware that back when baseball actually was this country's top sport, they played in the afternoon during the week.

Regardless, in today's day and age they can schedule games 1, 2, 6 and 7 on weekends and start 'em all at a reasonable hour.

Wow. That took me about 5 seconds to come up with that idea!
I really don't give a crap what they do. But when people like me accurately point out that the sport is dying and the fan base is rapidly aging, don't blame me for giving the reasons why.

You might want to put a few more seconds of thought into it because what you are proposing will not and should not ever happen. Try playing the Super Bowl on Wednesday afternoon and see what happens to the ratings.
 

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Speed up baseball? I don't watch so I don't care about individual games. But, the baseball season needs shortened. Do they really need to play that many games? Maybe when baseball was the "national pasttime" but today the season is at least one month too long.

I always thought that the season should start in may (better weather across the country) and have the playoffs start in September and be done with it all be October. They shouldn't have to worry about what the weather is going to be like in October or if it's going to snow. Baseball is a spring/summer sport so it shouldn't be played in Oct. I do agree with the 6 inning games also because it needs to be condensed so that the games don't take so long and maybe that'll keep interest of the fans.
 

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You might want to put a few more seconds of thought into it because what you are proposing will not and should not ever happen.
Oh I agree it won't ever happen but starting earlier to actually have, you know, the next generation of sports fans able to watch it is definitely something that should.

Did you even read the article that started this thread? The average playoffs viewer is 55. That's 55 years old. Pathetic.
 

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Oh I agree it won't ever happen but starting earlier to actually have, you know, the next generation of sports fans able to watch it is definitely something that should.

Did you even read the article that started this thread? The average playoffs viewer is 55. That's 55 years old. Pathetic.

I didnt realize the next generation of sports fans had such early bed times. I think your beef is with the time zone people not MLB.
 

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The average playoffs viewer is 55. That's 55 years old. Pathetic.

Imagine where major league baseball will be in 20 years.

All my relatives are in their 50's and none of our kids watch or care about baseball.
 

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What happened to the guy who "saw no sense in forwarding this conversation"? Where'd he go?

Who said I didn't like baseball? I do like baseball. It's just too bad they're too arrogant to make real, legitimate changes to improve the game. Their arrogance and short sightedness has come back to bite them. Maybe if World Series games ended before midnight on the East Coast, their average viewer age wouldn't be in the mid-50's.

That's the #1 reason I don't watch the playoffs or the World Series anymore. I'm in my early 50's (still younger than the "average" fan LOL), but I have to work in the morning
 

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first, baseball has to let go of the thought it needs to remain traditional.
other sports have made changes to effect positive change as should they.
every 60 year old fan they run off could be 3 15 year old fans they bring in and that is a good trade off for the long term health of the sport.
i can enjoy baseball quite a lot but usually end up napping tbh.

possible ideas:
1. pitch count of 15 seconds. starts right after ump rules on previous pitch.
2. 3 time outs for the manager to use to visit the mound. 3 time outs to switch hitters. 60 second time outs so players need to be ready to hit the field.
3. 1 bail out per hitter per game. after that it is an automatic strike.
4. go to 3 balls for a walk... --this seems contrary to game speed but forcing guys to throw strikes will speed up the game... and it should increase the umps desire to call strikes when close forcing hitters to also adapt to be more aggressive.

ratings increases will lead to increased revenue even if there are fewer commercials.
 

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Gosh you really think MLB is arrogant?

I don't sense that at all.

I think they're very resistant to change the rules so not to affect the integrity of the game.

The NFL is more likely to change the rules, but I sometimes think the NFL is too quick to "tinker".

That being said, I don't think buy the whole "baseball is dying" thing. Not when the average salary is over $4 mil. Obviously there's enough money coming in to pay those salaries.

Baseball needs to make adjustments no question.

Winks it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

I think they're very resistant to change the rules so not to affect the integrity of the game.
Baseball needs to make adjustments no question.


If they need to make changes but refuse to do so based upon "integrity" it is almost necessarily defined as arrogant.
They are assuming the game has such high level integrity --which is probably out the window since the roids scandals.
Record holders have asterisks.

It really is time for them to follow the trend of 40 year old GMs with 40 year old outside the box league leadership.

I do not think there is any doubt Soccer will pass Baseball in the US in the next 20-25 years.
Basketball and Football have pulled away for now with folks under 50.
 

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Winks it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

I think they're very resistant to change the rules so not to affect the integrity of the game.
Baseball needs to make adjustments no question.


If they need to make changes but refuse to do so based upon "integrity" it is almost necessarily defined as arrogant.
They are assuming the game has such high level integrity --which is probably out the window since the roids scandals.
Record holders have asterisks.

It really is time for them to follow the trend of 40 year old GMs with 40 year old outside the box league leadership.

I do not think there is any doubt Soccer will pass Baseball in the US in the next 20-25 years.
Basketball and Football have pulled away for now with folks under 50.

I admire baseball for trying to maintain baseball as it's always been.

And yes they have had to tinker with the rules when things get out of whack like they are now with the low scoring, slow games and high number of strikeouts.
 

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Looks like new rules are improving the game times.



MLB says new rules speeding up game times
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    Jayson Stark, Senior Writer, ESPN.com
Major League Baseball's new pace-of-game rules already appear to be having a major impact early this season.

According to MLB, the new rules helped to cut nearly eight minutes off the average time of a nine-inning game over the first week of the 2015 season.

The general consensus among players and baseball officials is that between-inning clocks have had the greatest impact on MLB's effort to speed up the pace of the game. Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images
Through the first Sunday of this season, there were 79 nine-inning games, compared with 85 at the same stage last year. The average length of those games this year has been 2 hours, 54 minutes, 39 seconds. A year ago, the average was 3 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds.

Although it is difficult to know if this trend will hold, the average game time through the first week last season varied very little over the course of the season, finishing at 3 hours, 2 minutes and 21 seconds.

If MLB can maintain this game time, it would be the first time the average time of a nine-inning game has slipped below 2 hours, 55 minutes since 2011. After a 15-year period in which game times averaged in the neighborhood of 2:50, those times had jumped dramatically over the past three seasons -- to 2:55:58 in 2012, 2:58:52 in 2013 and 3:02:21 last year, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

However, baseball commissioner Rob Manfred recently told ESPN.com that he isn't measuring the impact of the new rules with a clock alone.

"I'm really not thinking about this in terms of average game time," Manfred said in an interview just before Opening Day. "It's not like I have in my head I want to get from 3:02 to 2:58 or 2:55. That's not what it's about for me.

"What I hope happens is that, at the end of the season, knowledgeable baseball writers and fans are saying, 'You know, they got this one right. There's a crispness to the play. They've cleaned up some dead time in the game. And maybe best of all, we feel like they were responsive to what people were saying about the game.'"

MLB introduced three significant changes this season in an attempt to move games along at a crisper pace:

• With certain exceptions, hitters must keep one foot in the batter's box between pitches throughout their at-bat.

• Each ballpark now has between-inning countdown timers to ensure that the next half-inning starts promptly. The timers are set at 2 minutes, 25 seconds for most games and 2:45 for nationally televised games. Pitchers and hitters have been encouraged to be ready to go when the clock reaches 20 seconds.

• Managers can now signal instant-replay challenges to umpires from the dugout area, instead of from the field.

MLB has not broken down the impact each of those changes has had on game times, but the general consensus among players and baseball officials is that the between-inning timers have had the greatest effect by cleaning up excess time before the start of each half-inning. Manfred said that was one of baseball's chief concerns, as the time between innings often stretched beyond 3 minutes last season.

"I think fans understand and appreciate the fact that there are certain, naturally, never-going-to-be-changed aspects to the game that may not be fast-paced," the commissioner told ESPN.com. "What I think people were concerned about was things that they saw as not integral to the play of the game, or even the economic setup of the game.

"We don't need to be at 3:20 [between innings]. Why do we need to be at 3:20? ... Those are the kind of things that you can tighten up, shorten up, without affecting the flow of the game."
 

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Baseball games are NOT too long.

162 games is great. For 5 entire months you get a game almost daily. Whats not to like about that? I dont catch all 162 of the Orioles games, I miss a few, but Im good for at least 155.

Been watching/listening for over 40 years and my only complaint is that there isnt enough baseball.

Baseball isnt the problem. Its the brain dead have to be entertained every second losers of the younger generations thats the problem. Baseball is a thinking mans game and our brain dead population cant follow it or understand it. So, in order to "survive and thrive" we have to water down the game, or ruin it in hopes of attracting the brain dead masses.
 

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Sure is nice to listen to Vin Scully again tonight on TV. When I lived in LA, would just turn the game on to have him in the background :)
 

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Sure is nice to listen to Vin Scully again tonight on TV. When I lived in LA, would just turn the game on to have him in the background :)

That was a nice surprise last night. It is going to be a sad day when he finally hangs up the microphone.
 

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I do not think there is any doubt Soccer will pass Baseball in the US in the next 20-25 years.
Basketball and Football have pulled away for now with folks under 50.

Talk about a boring game, my gosh I don't understand how anyone can watch that. I've tried, really I have but I can't stand it. I would rather watch the WNBA than soccer. But to each their own, some consider baseball boring which is fine, but soccer is just painful to me.
 

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Its the brain dead have to be entertained every second losers of the younger generations thats the problem. .

There is a lot of truth to that. I enjoy the length of the games, and the season, I don't mind at all. There are some batters and pitchers that take forever and piss me off though. I think speeding up the pitchers and the batters will improve the pace of the game and shorten the length.

Someone referenced the NFL being forward thinking and not afraid to change the rules. They may be ratings busters but the NFL has become a watered down game, which has destroyed the integrity of the game itself. Football isn't the football of old, it's a large money and ratings grab.
 

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There is a lot of truth to that. I enjoy the length of the games, and the season, I don't mind at all. There are some batters and pitchers that take forever and piss me off though. I think speeding up the pitchers and the batters will improve the pace of the game and shorten the length.

Someone referenced the NFL being forward thinking and not afraid to change the rules. They may be ratings busters but the NFL has become a watered down game, which has destroyed the integrity of the game itself. Football isn't the football of old, it's a large money and ratings grab.

Totally agree!
 

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Talk about a boring game, my gosh I don't understand how anyone can watch that. I've tried, really I have but I can't stand it. I would rather watch the WNBA than soccer. But to each their own, some consider baseball boring which is fine, but soccer is just painful to me.

I played and coached soccer and have to agree for watching it on tv. Soccer will NEVER pass Baseball!
 

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Talk about a boring game, my gosh I don't understand how anyone can watch that. I've tried, really I have but I can't stand it. I would rather watch the WNBA than soccer. But to each their own, some consider baseball boring which is fine, but soccer is just painful to me.

Agreed on soccer.

I've tried getting into it over the years but I find it to be less exciting than bingo.
 

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Agreed on soccer.

I've tried getting into it over the years but I find it to be less exciting than bingo.

If you havent played soccer I can see that. Its a great game to play but its not a sport to watch on tv for those of us used to "American" sports. Similar to hockey IMO. Hockey is great in person but terrible on tv. Snooze fest.
 
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