The play-it-safe Marinelli schemes must go

waldoputty

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I remember seeing the alignment and was like well ... "this is peculiar, surely they have a plan or a reason. There's like less than 1% chance of success on this play before half- stop worrying."

Then Hill caught the pass and my jaw dropped and dropped and I was like someone engage the ballcarrier please.

Good thing we are better than KC by wide enough margin to not have it really come back and bite us.

right, that is exactly how i was feeling
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No he hasn't had the talent but I think at times he uses that as a OUT. He won't vocally say anything but he's constantly here with no premiere picks on defense. So that leads me to believe he's ok with the talent he has.

I love what this defense can become. It would be nice to add a premiere pick to that defense. Just one more. Not opposed to trading up for a player next year even though its probably a bad idea.
 

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To be fair, he's also cost us games by being aggressive in spots where all he needed to do was call a softer defense. And when those instances happened, everybody complained then too.

I think I'd rather not employ anymore of these Tampa 2 guys anymore. So I'm not an apologist for him -- I think he's not a good playcaller or a good schemer, and I look forward to the day when he's gone.

But I also recognize that sending your secondary back to the endzone in a hail mary situation is pretty standard. It's what most defenses do in obvious Hail Mary situations.

Nobody came up to fight through a block and make the tackle. As if they decided they didn't have to play defense unless the other team threw the exact kind of pass they were expecting. But that's not how it works.

The Chiefs didn't brilliantly invent the concept of throwing short and trying to get a convoy going to run over a conservative defense. It's attempted quite often (usually when a team doubts their QB has the arm, doubts their WRs are capable of winning jumpballs, or doubts their o-line will hold up long enough for the receivers to get that far downfield). Ir almost never works, because it really only takes some basic fundamental effort to run up and tackle the guy before he gets into the endzone. It's an easily defensible play if the players don't have their heads up their *****.
 

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I don't like his prevent defense. It has never worked and is a killer when the games really count. A defense must be aggressive. When the Cowboys were winning SB's they had tough, hardnosed, aggressive defenses. To win a SB , the mentality and the prevent must go.
 

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We've given up more than 19 points in one game this season in which Lee has played

RELAX
 

waldoputty

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To be fair, he's also cost us games by being aggressive in spots where all he needed to do was call a softer defense. And when those instances happened, everybody complained then too.

I think I'd rather not employ anymore of these Tampa 2 guys anymore. So I'm not an apologist for him -- I think he's not a good playcaller or a good schemer, and I look forward to the day when he's gone.

But I also recognize that sending your secondary back to the endzone in a hail mary situation is pretty standard. It's what most defenses do in obvious Hail Mary situations.

Nobody came up to fight through a block and make the tackle. As if they decided they didn't have to play defense unless the other team threw the exact kind of pass they were expecting. But that's not how it works.

The Chiefs didn't brilliantly invent the concept of throwing short and trying to get a convoy going to run over a conservative defense. It's attempted quite often (usually when a team doubts their QB has the arm, doubts their WRs are capable of winning jumpballs, or doubts their o-line will hold up long enough for the receivers to get that far downfield). Ir almost never works, because it really only takes some basic fundamental effort to run up and tackle the guy before he gets into the endzone. It's an easily defensible play if the players don't have their heads up their *****.


playing deep is one thing.
it is just when they were lining up, it just looked like the gap is far too much with nothing in between the line and the deep backs.
something looked wrong to me and to others also.
 

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Exactly. Two guarantees.
  1. You will see that play run again in lots of games.
  2. You won’t see it work on Cowboys again...they will learn. It’s like attacking a screen or the old wedge kick return. Some guys have to attack the blockers hard, like gunners, and take them out early. Then others close for tackle. All those DBs just kept giving ground, circling the wagons to protect the end zone. They allowed the blockers way too deep before any contact. They didn’t know how to approach it.
However, I love the way our defense and secondary played today!
I doubt we'll see it again in a long time. I would say the failure rate is got to be 99.99% Hail mary has a higher success rate. We just happen to be the .01 chance of it being successful.
 
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Wow, the man just coached circles around an Andy Freaking Reid offense and he still can't get any love from some here,,, :huh:
 
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