The price for not keeping Dalton Schultz

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Schoon is a better blocker and will be equal to Schultz receiving. He wasn't a reach at 58. Not at all. I'm glad they moved on from Schultz and that paycheck. Give me that rookie deal.

BTW the FO didn't feel like TE was a need. They wanted to improve the blocking. A chance to upgrade the blocking and replace Schultz fell into their laps.
I'm living a pipe dream, but I really was hoping they'd make a pick of Buckeye Cade Stover. That farm boy was a beast until his injury
 

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nothing wrong with Dalton.

Jerry didn’t want to spend the $$$.
No, it's that Dalton wanted too much. He is quite simply not a 15 mil/season player. If he'd have played for around 10, he'd still b a Cowboy. This one is not on Jerry.
 

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No, it's that Dalton wanted too much. He is quite simply not a 15 mil/season player. If he'd have played for around 10, he'd still b a Cowboy. This one is not on Jerry.
The way the Cowboys wanted to upgrade their blocking, I'm not so sure about that.
 

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Huh??? They have been great at drafting lately. One of the best in the league.

How can you call it a miss when the draft was only a few weeks ago???
I was referring to you missing the point. Didn't realize this was call out day, but you called me out for a perceived miss, just returning the favor!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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The front office felt like TE was a need and couldn't risk waiting until round 3 to get the player they wanted.

Schoonmamer was considered a reach at 58 overall.

Had we kept Schultz for 1 year, we could've gone Torrence, Mims, Drew Sanders, Kendre Miller or a lot of other players.

Would you rather have kept Schultz and gone with a different pick at 58?

Or are you glad the front office moved on from Dalton and that savings of $9 million this year?
I was fine starting Ferguson. He showed a lot *as a rookie*. Credible starter, IMO.
The TE pick was a reach and not a need. Nothing to like about it.
 

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I was fine starting Ferguson. He showed a lot *as a rookie*. Credible starter, IMO.
The TE pick was a reach and not a need. Nothing to like about it.
Why draft Schoonmaker who will be 25 week 4 of the nfl season? I think the reason is Dallas is in win now mode. At that age it limits his ceiling, but the theory is he is built to come in an contribute right away. Similar to the mazi pick who comes in and should be an immediate starter. I can't fault a team that wants to go for it while they can, and I don't think dallas has compromised much of their future. By not paying schultz they can put that money into core guys. The uncharacteristic moves of adding cooks and gilmore helps solidify the thought that they want to win now. Will Schoon be a better fit than schultz, we'll have to wait and see, but i think it's a sound philosophy.
 

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I never heard anyone in the media say he was a reach. Actually many thought he wa sa good pick.
Only fans on here say he was a reach, and those were from the typical fans that think that know better, and don't like much of anything this team does.
Dallas was planning to draft Dalton Kinkaid until Buffalo jumped ahead of Dallas and picked him. Dallas switched strategy and picked
Mazi Smith.

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SIGNED
Dalton Kincaid
Utah · TE
Kincaid signed his four-year rookie contract on May 13, the team announced.

Pick 58: Dallas then picked a tight end in the 2nd round. He was a reach by analysts on ESPN
but Dallas picked him, good blocker and good receiver. Goal was to improve running game.
Dalton Shultz was not a great blocker.

Dallas has some pretty good options to replace Dalton Schultz in-house already, but it found a two-way option as a blocker and short receiver. Schoonmaker is a bit of a late bloomer, but he's a very solid, complete contributor who rose throughout the pre-draft process.
 

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Dallas was planning to draft Dalton Kinkaid until Buffalo jumped ahead of Dallas and picked him. Dallas switched strategy and picked
Mazi Smith.

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Buffalo Bills

SIGNED
Dalton Kincaid
Utah · TE
Kincaid signed his four-year rookie contract on May 13, the team announced.

Pick 58: Dallas then picked a tight end in the 2nd round. He was a reach by analysts on ESPN
but Dallas picked him, good blocker and good receiver. Goal was to improve running game.
Dalton Shultz was not a great blocker.

Dallas has some pretty good options to replace Dalton Schultz in-house already, but it found a two-way option as a blocker and short receiver. Schoonmaker is a bit of a late bloomer, but he's a very solid, complete contributor who rose throughout the pre-draft process.
Most think that they were going to take Smith even if Kincaid was available. Some said that their top tight end was LaPorta.
 

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Schultz was a legit top pass catching TE and he had a good rapport with Inepto as Pappy calls him. Ferguson was a nice value pick but he's a #2. Odds are there will be a drop off with the TE with one good foot. I think by mid season more people around here will say maybe we shouldn't have cut Schultz loose
 

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Witten was a 3rd round pick. The rest of the league did not think he was worthy of drafting earlier. T-Fred was highly criticized as too early picked. But he was instant dominator.
T. Smith is first round last year was also criticized by too many, but showed he too will be a dominator.

Schultz was drafted in the 4th round out of Stanford as a good blocker, with underutilized receiving skills. He has not been good as an NFL blocker. He was a good safety valve as a receiver, but lacked the speed and athleticism of a young Witten and could not be expected to make splash plays.

The Schooner comes into the league with many years of great coaching and is considered an elite blocker, smart and ready to contribute day one, but he is no lumbering, slow player. He ran a 4.59, which means he has untapped potential for splash plays to outrun LB's.

Along with another solid Big 10 TE in Ferguson, considered super smart, a very good blocker with great hands, the Boys can go double TE and open up holes much better than in the past few years. The Boys can send Cooks and Lamb deep down the sidelines and take 4 players to follow them, while faking a handoff and Schooner can get deep down the middle.

The Boys realize Dak is no elite QB, that they need better blocking for him, especially with Zeke gone. Schooner will be better in the pros than in College. He is a plug and play double talent at TE and Jim Harbaugh spoke to the Cowboys' brass about him and highly touted him.

The NFL communist league that allows stealing of players with these free agency rules has been bad for the Boys, as they have not been in the Super Bow after Jimmy Johnson's great players and solid back-ups were picked off their roster, as the Boys were limited in salaries every year. The team cannot keep everyone and stockpile talent, but must re-group almost every year.

I too hate to see the team to use a high pick just to replace an existing starter who is still relatively young. This is the price the Boys pay in this free agency world.

I just pray that Schooner is as the Boys' scouts believe he will be, as opposed to terrible busts at TE, LaFleur from LSU, 2nd rounder Escobar from San Diego State and 1995 2nd rounder K. Watkins from Miss State.
 

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Schultz was a legit top pass catching TE and he had a good rapport with Inepto as Pappy calls him. Ferguson was a nice value pick but he's a #2. Odds are there will be a drop off with the TE with one good foot. I think by mid season more people around here will say maybe we shouldn't have cut Schultz loose
Don't forget that they added cooks. Dak is not going to be short on targets. The TE will be the 4th or 5th target defenses are worried about. All of the cowboys TE's who are being thrown at should have a nice year
 

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No Zeke and No Schultz how will mental case # 4 handle this?
Very poorly I suspect and predict.......
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Why draft Schoonmaker who will be 25 week 4 of the nfl season? I think the reason is Dallas is in win now mode. At that age it limits his ceiling, but the theory is he is built to come in an contribute right away. Similar to the mazi pick who comes in and should be an immediate starter. I can't fault a team that wants to go for it while they can, and I don't think dallas has compromised much of their future. By not paying schultz they can put that money into core guys. The uncharacteristic moves of adding cooks and gilmore helps solidify the thought that they want to win now. Will Schoon be a better fit than schultz, we'll have to wait and see, but i think it's a sound philosophy.
his age limits nothing, how much football has he played ie milage on his body, thats what matters.. BTW who cares way too much micro-overthinking on this pick. not a lot of players get 2nd contracts no matter where they are picked. even solid ones like Byron Jones, just gone after one contract. Schultz 5 years, gone, thats it.. seems to me its non- issue

he was drafted , we will see how it plays out. all the immediate overaction and now somehow this gets revisited for no reason even more of an overreaction. guy neds to put pads on in live games and we will see how the pick can be judged and graded,
 

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Don't forget that they added cooks. Dak is not going to be short on targets. The TE will be the 4th or 5th target defenses are worried about. All of the cowboys TE's who are being thrown at should have a nice year
I agree with you Cooks' role could be critical. But my concern is he fills a very different role than Schultz, and like him or not Dak had success going to him.
 
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