The pros and cons of keeping Murray

[Doomsday101]

I think Murray will get around 7.5 mill a year deal to stay with the Cowboys. I think much of the draft will be directed at the defense but I think Jerry will want to keep what is working and what is right with the Cowboys. Not take 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Murray is an outstanding all around RB and I think he makes the Cowboys a better team

 

[TwoDeep3]

I keep seeing these Barco-lounger coaches talk about the yards he leaves on the field and I wonder if any of you people can prove your theory.

Of course you can't.

Nor can you prove there is a backs all over the league who sometimes miss the hole due to the quickness of thew action on the field.

So let me see. Top running back in the league. Dallas is showing the league what a great running game can do for a team. So much so Denver has adopted this game plan over the last month or so. If they haven't then both ESPN and NFLN are lying or ignorant.

One might suspect the league will play copycat, especially the teams with porous defenses like the Cowboys, and build at the offensive line and hunt for running backs to milk the clock.

Funny how there have been a few of us here that have suggested this for a while.

And with all this, the brain trust here, the majority of fan/coaches proffer the idea of just letting him walk because these mental giants believe you can just put anyone in this offense and dominate the running game. I want to see this game end up a win for the Cowboys, but it might serve a great number of fans right if Murray sits out and the back-up get about 65 yards and Romo has to become a magician and win it in the final seconds. Just to bring you Knute Rockne's and Vince Lombardi's back to earth.

All the wheedling about Romo and his stats, and the team finally has balance and the Big Thinkers here toss out football bromides that just anyone can get this type of results behind this line.

The consistency of thinking around these parts has one constant. You guys fall into a lockstep thinking quicker than Chris Berman and Tom Jackson hate on the Cowboys on Game day.

 

[visionary]

AP to Dallas is as good as done IMO
Murray will not be back

 

[Doomsday101]

I keep seeing these Barco-lounger coaches talk about the yards he leaves on the field and I wonder if any of you people can prove your theory.

Of course you can't.

Nor can you prove there is a back that does not sometimes miss the hole due to the quickness of thew action on the field.

So let me see. Top running back in the league. Dallas is showing the league what a great running game can do for a team. So much so Denver has adopted this gamer plan over the last month or so. If they haven't then both ESPN and NFLN are lying or ignorant.

One might suspect the league will not play copycat, especially the teams with porous defenses like the Cowboys, and build at the offensive line and hunt for running backs to milk the clock.

Funny how there have been a few of us here that have suggested this for a while.

And with all this, the brain trust here, the majority of fan/coaches proffer the idea of just letting him walk because these mental giants believe you can just put anyone in this offense and dominate the running game. I want to see this game end up a win for the Cowboys, but it might serve a great number of fans right if Murray sits out and the back-up get about 65 yards and Romo has to become a magician and win it in the final seconds. Just to bring you Knute Rockne's and Vince Lombardi's back to earth.

All the wheedling about Romo and his stats, and the team finally has balance and the Big Thinkers here toss out football bromides that just anyone can get this type of results behind this line.

The consistency of thinking around these parts has one constant. You guys fall into a lockstep thinking quicker than Chris Berman and Tom Jackson hate on the Cowboys on Game day.

considering Murray leads the league in yards after contact I agree. lol He is not overly fast RB, he has decent speed but he is a solid work horse. He is tied for 1st in runs of 20 yards+ with 14 and tied for 1st of runs of 40+ yards with 3. So no one else is surpassing him in terms of long runs

 

[Pokes12]

When was the last time Dallas had the number 1 running back in the league?
When we were winning Super Bowls.
Murray is a stud, plain and simple and you do not let studs go if you want to win.

KEEP MURRAY

 

[DCBoysfan]

I disagree. I don't think he'll be offered an outrageous amount. The rest of the league knows his history and I highly doubt he'd produce the same numbers on another team, unless they have an amazing line.

I don't know, all it takes is one team that feels they are a player away.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I'm all for bring back Murray at a good price, but Dez and McClain are first

 

[TwoDeep3]

AP to Dallas is as good as done IMO
Murray will not be back

I can see the forward thinking in getting a player that is four years older, had injury issues all his own, and off field problems which will haunt him. This is the exact type of football mind we need as GM following Jerry when he heads to the Big Press Conference in the sky.

 

[TwoDeep3]

considering Murray leads the league in yards after contact I agree. lol He is not overly fast RB, he has decent speed but he is a solid work horse. He is tied for 1st in runs of 20 yards+ with 14 and tied for 1st of runs of 40+ yards with 3. So no one else is surpassing him in terms of long runs

You know better than introducing logic in this room.

 

[Doomsday101]

You know better than introducing logic in this room.

That is alright I'll stick with logic. I like AP but fact is I would rather keep the younger Murray and the chemistry he brings to the locker room. I see an AP signing as yet another glitz and glamor move that Jerry has constantly be raked over the coals for doing. AP brings some baggage and media attention that I don't think this club needs. We are also talking of an older player who has his own history of injuries and as I have been told here those injuries become more frequent and harder to overcome the older a player gets and the drop off can happen fast.

 

[Nirvana]

Murray is as good as gone. The money will be higher elsewhere.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jerry Jones “absolutely” realistic to think the Dallas Cowboys could bring back DeMarco Murray and Dez Bryant next season.

 

[Deep_South]

DeMarco running for 100+ and Tony passing for around 250 with big plays to Dez is a very nice offense, and we should keep it around for a few years, IMO. These are our triplets, and we shouldn't part with any of them without a fight.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This team is not built to have a high paid running back.

You look at the best paid running backs in the league and most have the same thing in common.

Run oriented team with a strong defense (at one point at least).

Vikings
Kansas City
Eagles
Texans
Bears
Seahawks
Panthers
49ers
Bills

The next highest paid running back is the Colts' Trent Richardson who was brought in by trade.

This team has been built to pass the ball, and that transition to a running team is going to be a difficult one on the cap.

It's going to generally hold our defense back. It helps that Romo is outplaying his contract, but it's still pass heavy, and will become more so with the signing of Dez.

It's not really built to have high paid anything while Tony is under contract. Well, except QB. Still, we will have to pay some nice deals out to keep talent. It is what it is.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

This team finally has something positive going for it and people want to break it up. If it wasn't for the running game this team would still be 8-8.smh

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I love how Murray fits in with the team. I love the chemistry. The way others speak of him always highlights his hunger, will and desire. He has a quiet confidence. He doesn't hit the homerun enough but he's very consistent and a good receiver. Everyone seems to love him. Hard to tinker with this. I think back to the 2001 Ravens who had won the SB with Trent Dilfer. They signed Grbac and on paper looked 10x better but it didn't quite work that way. May not be the best example but the point remains it's tricky tinkering with great chemistry.

 

[visionary]

I can see the forward thinking in getting a player that is four years older, had injury issues all his own, and off field problems which will haunt him. This is the exact type of football mind we need as GM following Jerry when he heads to the Big Press Conference in the sky.

Not saying this is what I want but what I think will happen
I would be ok with it as I think AP is a freak and will have had this year off and is a truly elite back
He is also likely to come cheaper and get a 2-3 year deal and the history of RBs after all time high rushes/touches is not good for next year esp given Murray's injury history

JMO

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Team Chemistry is something that is very underrated.

Him and Dez have undeniably strong team chemistry. I wouldn't mess that up.

I agree.

Murray brings a lot of those good intangibles to the table. He is just a guy you want on your team. His attitude, his toughness, the way he carries himself. You want and need those guys.

How about this. What if the Cowboys make a NFCCG or Super Bowl trip? With Murray controlling the TOP?

I would pay him................................

Use his talents exactly for that too, to move chains and eat the clock. Use randle/dunbar/whoever more next season and give Murray breaks..

 

[xwalker]

I see it coming down to two main factors money and defense.

Obviously money is an issue with any RB, especially one coming off of the amount of touches he got this year.

Many will say that you can plug any back in behind this OL and do fine. Yes I can see us having some success but can we find/have a complete RB to replace him? In looking at Murray he clearly lacks breakaway speed and looks awkward in the open field. You can see him missing on probably 6-8 runs to the house this year that turned into 20 yard gains, but he also routinely turns losses into 2-3 yards and 4 yard runs into 8 yard runs. So is an increase in explosive plays worth the risk of more 3rd and long plays?

That is where the defense comes into play. Murray is the perfect RB to protect our current defense. The question then becomes can we turn an undermanned, hard working D into a solid, hold their own and then some D in one offseason?

For me I think our best course of action is to hedge our bets and tag Murray, just in case we can't get all the pieces to make our defense able to stand on their own consistently through free agency and the draft.

The franchise tag is a bad option for Murray but a very good option for Dez.

The tag is double what the Cowboys want to pay Murray, but might actually be less than what Dez wants per year on a new contract.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We have a good thing going because we have finally realized how to play winning football IMO. Not because Murray is the difference. I mean, I am not one of the people who believe that you can just plug anybody in and get the same results. I don't believe that for a minute but I am a person who believes that if you go out and get a quality RB, and they are out there, you can get close to the same production, if not better. I love Murray as a player and I want him to make his money while the Sun still shines because the shelf life on his style of RB is not long. Because of that, I think you have to deal with the fact that Murray will likely move on if the right offer is out there. We can't afford to pay him 7 or 8 IMO.

However, it's an interesting question. Exactly how many teams will be out there for Murray? We use a run heavy, power running attack. How many teams in the NFL actually run that same offense? SF, Seattle, Jets, Baltimore, Houston? How many of those guys would spend big money in FA on a RB. SF has their RB already. Seattle would just keep Beastmode if they were going to spend money. Jets have Ivory and Johnson and Houston has Foster and Blue. Other teams could switch to a power running game but honestly, that's not an overnight thing. I wonder how much demand is actually out there for Murray?