The "Right Kind of Guy" (quotes from Bill Belichick)

[SWG9]

Agreed. I personally don't think that Garrett has enough experience to be a HC (or OC previously) but he should be given the latitude to make his own football decisions and that charade was definitely exposed this off-season. Football by committee has never worked as far as I know, but Jerry likes it that way IMO, because nobody under him can acquire too much power.

Yeah, we can quibble about the choice, but the bottom line is if you've done your due diligence and you're taking the guy that you feel gives you the best chance to win, it makes no sense to start undermining him after 2 years.

And it definitely makes no sense to put him in a make or break situation in year 3.

 

[CF74]

So who was in charge of the offense at that time? Did Wade want Solari or Houck as OL coach? Did Wade want Felix Jones and Roy Williams? Jason Garrett inherited an already explosive offense. He didn't build anything from ground up and he actually made it worse. When Wade wanted Dan Reeves to baby-sit JG, was Dan Reeves hired?

We went to the play-offs and won an actual play-off game with Wade and Wade had one bad season, where the inevitable was going to happen because JG's pathetic offense couldn't stay on the field with any time-consuming drives. They were abominable in the 2nd and 3rd quarters in particular, with their consistent one and two and outs.

This pathetic play-calling is precisely why JJ said it as soon as the season was over, that Romo was the key and changes are going to be made with utilizing his skills. Then JJ went into spin mode to make it seem like JG wasn't stripped of play-calling duties and JG has been telling us, he's never had a problem with 'delegating' that roll. Now, Romo has essentially been made a part-time offensive coach. It's why JJ over-ruled JG and went with Frederik.

It's funny.. Many of the JG homers don't even realize that players like Sean Lee and Lissemore were drafted by Wade.... If you look at the offensive picks during that tenure, when Wade probably had little input, the picks were atrocious.

RW2 was a Jerry move.
Felix had some injury issues at one point but who cares, the draft is a crap shoot anyways, coaches miss on players all the time.

You can make this a Wade vs Garrett thing if you wish but to me the one constant has been injuries along nearly the entire o-line...

 

[khiladi]

RW2 was a Jerry move.
Felix had some injury issues at one point but who cares, the draft is a crap shoot anyways, coaches miss on players all the time.

You can make this a Wade vs Garrett thing if you wish but to me the one constant has been injuries along nearly the entire o-line...

Jerry Jones asked Jason Garrett his opinion on Roy Williams and brining him in. And this actually further validates the point, which is JGs offense was actually stalling and Jerry thought that by simply an issue of adding a guy like RW to make the offense 'explode', which never happened. We essentially had the same OL during that free-fall that we did in 2007. Then Miles had the break-out game against KC to save JGs face and now we are back at square one again, blaming Miles Austin. And this year, we had Dez compensate for the utter inept play calling, when Tony Romo went free-style mode and hurry up.

So if the draft is a crap-shoot, then why is it that everybody keeps blaming Wade for all these busted picks, but when it comes to giving credit to some 'direction' in this organization, it's all JG. JG has been in charge of this offense and like JJ listened to Marinelli in rejecting Ffloyd, he was listening to Garrett in respect to the offensive picks during Wade's tenure. And JG didn't do jack with respect to this OL, but Wade takes all the blame.

If JG is some sort of genius, then why was he picking a 3-4 NT when they were going 4-3?

 

[Idgit]

Jerry Jones asked Jason Garrett his opinion on Roy Williams and brining him in. And this actually further validates the point, which is JGs offense was actually stalling and Jerry thought that by simply an issue of adding a guy like RW to make the offense 'explode', which never happened. We essentially had the same OL during that free-fall that we did in 2007. Then Miles had the break-out game against KC to save JGs face and now we are back at square one again, blaming Miles Austin. And this year, we had Dez compensate for the utter inept play calling, when Tony Romo went free-style mode and hurry up.

So if the draft is a crap-shoot, then why is it that everybody keeps blaming Wade for all these busted picks, but when it comes to giving credit to some 'direction' in this organization, it's all JG. JG has been in charge of this offense and like JJ listened to Marinelli in rejecting Ffloyd, he was listening to Garrett in respect to the offensive picks during Wade's tenure. And JG didn't do jack with respect to this OL, but Wade takes all the blame.

If JG is some sort of genius, then why was he picking a 3-4 NT when they were going 4-3?

There's a lot of unsubstantiated assumptions and unsupported conclusions here. It makes it tough to address them in total.

Why do you think the Roy Williams decision, for example, was the result of a conversation between Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett and not the result of pro scouting?

What makes you think Jerry thought RW would make the offense 'explode'? I don't doubt that he might have, but is 'explode' in quotes for a reason?

Why do you seem to think that the OL being the same during the 'free fall' that we did in 2007 means that there wasn't an issue with the OL during the free fall as a result?

Why do you think we're blaming Miles Austin?

Why do you think Dez exploding was unrelated to play calling?

Why do you think Tony Romo went into free style mode without input from his HC and/or coordinator?

Why do you think Jason Garrett's been in charge of the offensive personnel during the Wade Phillips drafts (if this is what you're implying, it might not be, it's unclear)?

And why do you think JG 'didn't do jack' in regards to this OL?

I'm not saying any of these statements on their own are necessarily untrue. Just that most of them are completely unsubstantiated opinions you seem willing to believe, but none of which are necessarily accurate. They end up forming a house of cards that explains your opinion on where the team is headed, but which isn't necessarily very stable if some of the primary assumptions turn out to be baseless. And I think a lot of these assumptions are probably pretty much baseless.

 

[khiladi]

Why do you think the consistent failure of the offense has nothing to do with Garrett?

Why do you think all the failed draft picks when Wade was here, as far as it surrounded the offense, had nothing to do with Garrett, and everything to do with Wade, especially when Jerry is over-ruling JG when it concerns Floyd, because his DL COACH, not the OC, said he wasn't a good fit? Was Wade coaching the offense? Why was Houck here and not Solari? Why did wade want Dan Reeves here?

You know what's even more amusing... In order to help JG out with Roy Williams, Jerry Jones burned 3 draft picks in 2009, the very draft that people said was an example of Wade's utter ineptitude of building personel. And Wade was the guy who always said he was against picking a WR in the first round.

But it's all Wade's fault and JG didn't want Roy Williams, but Wade did...

Let the myth of Jason Garrett continue to grow, while JJ over-rules him in the draft, makes Tony Romo essentially a part-time coach, strips him of his OC duties in reality, and brings in multiple veteran coaches...

 

[CF74]

Jerry Jones asked Jason Garrett his opinion on Roy Williams and brining him in. And this actually further validates the point, which is JGs offense was actually stalling and Jerry thought that by simply an issue of adding a guy like RW to make the offense 'explode', which never happened. We essentially had the same OL during that free-fall that we did in 2007. Then Miles had the break-out game against KC to save JGs face and now we are back at square one again, blaming Miles Austin. And this year, we had Dez compensate for the utter inept play calling, when Tony Romo went free-style mode and hurry up.

So if the draft is a crap-shoot, then why is it that everybody keeps blaming Wade for all these busted picks, but when it comes to giving credit to some 'direction' in this organization, it's all JG. JG has been in charge of this offense and like JJ listened to Marinelli in rejecting Ffloyd, he was listening to Garrett in respect to the offensive picks during Wade's tenure. And JG didn't do jack with respect to this OL, but Wade takes all the blame.

If JG is some sort of genius, then why was he picking a 3-4 NT when they were going 4-3?

Sometimes FA's become busts, it happens quite often. I don't care about the past other than learning from it's failures. You wanna harp on who did what that's fine but the reality is that injuries and turnovers have held this team down far more than coaching has. Once you figure that out, the rest is fodder...