News: The Reason For the Cowboys Lack of Success in One Paragraph

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  • Super Bowls Wins (I don't care about 2nd place participation trophies):
    • Jimmy: 2 in 5 years.
    • Landry: 2 in 29 years.
  • Owner & GM
    • Jerry: 3
    • Murchison & Tex Schramm: 2
Nobody knew Jerry Jones had even made himself the GM. It was never announced. When the media discovered this they asked Jerry point blank who the GM was, him or Jimmy. I personably heard the words coming out of his mouth on my TV set. He said, "The Cowboys have two GM's" This is what ended a dynasty that could have lasted three times longer than it did.

Okay......half of the team that won those three Super Bowls were there before Jimmy including most of the offensive line. Landry started off with an expansion team that didn't even get to draft that year, a far cry from the way expansion teams have started up after that.

You are going to tell me that 11 division titles, three conference championship appearances, three Super Bowl appearances' and three Super Bowl championships are better than 13 division titles, ten conference championship appearances, five Super Bowl appearances' and two Super Bowl championships?

And by the way, the fact that Jerry declared he would never give that much power to a Head Coach again is intimately related to the fact that the Cowboys have never gone to another conference championship game. When Jimmy was here, Jerry signed the checks, greeted players at the airport, and hogged the microphone. That was pretty much the extent of his contribution. He has since attempted to rewrite history but the sports archives contain the truth.

You don't care about "2nd place participation trophies"? Call me skeptical.

So then, if the Cowboys got into the Super Bowl this next season but lost, you would consider that season as equal to all the other non championship seasons? As far as you are concerned there would be absolutely nothing to celebrate.

I know you are a real Cowboys fan....which is why I'm skeptical. I think you would be thrilled overall after recovering enough from the sting of a Super Bowl. loss. Like me, you could never fully recover.
 

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A quote by Tex Schram:

:"Tom knew he had authority over the players and everything that had to do with the playing of the game. I had the remainder, There's one thing you must have in football: one continuous line of authority. The players had to understand that, as far as they're concerned, Landry is the boss. They had to understand that the only person I will listen to is Landry. Secondly, they had to understand that I had that kind of backing from Murchison. If everyone doesn't know that there's a definite line of authority, you have chaos."

IMO the issue is the Cowboys are run like a modern corporation. Authority is distributed much more and accountability models are more diverse in corporate America where goals are more wide spread and numerous.

In many corporate strategies the goal is not necessarily to be the best in class. A more driving goal may be to have a 5% gain in market share. So you apply a management model to get that result.

In football or professional sports in general the goal is to win it all. Or at least that is what you should be trying to do.

This simple and singular line of focus year in and year out lends itself much more to a cult of personality approach as opposed to a distributed team approach. This is the reason why it is proven that those who are responsible for the outcomes on the field through their jobs are going to perform with much more urgency and focus than those who have their fingers in many pies.

The system the Cowboys and the Jones family have set up is designed for corporate profit and not enduring and lasting football results year in and year out.

The reaffirmation of this concept to me was this quote:

"After four years of everyone at Valley Ranch tiptoeing around Parcells, Jones was looking for someone he felt comfortable with. He even admitted as much.
"There won't be as much walking on eggshells," he said before catching himself."


Parcells was stubbornly about winning the SuperBowl. His protege, Belichick, is about winning the SuperBowl. Did you every notice how Jerry has avoided any coaches coming directly out of the Parcells and Belichick tree?

I think you come to the Cowboys and the Jones family to coach in the country club. That means taking your seat at the country table and making sure the head table has their hands on the reins. Time will tell which approach is the right one.
 

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A man has authority or he is not a leader. Parcels had authority he worked for JJ.
JJ runs the show but nobody and I mean nobody held pressers like Bill.
JJ great failure is talent evaluation. He made two good coaching hires.

Yes, but when Jerry wanted the Player, who won. Parcells didn't like it but was stuck with it. Parcells didn't stay long did he. Jerry always wins and gets his way.
 

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Put me in the small camp that thinks this season is going to surprise a few people.
 

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A man has authority or he is not a leader. Parcels had authority he worked for JJ.
JJ runs the show but nobody and I mean nobody held pressers like Bill.
JJ great failure is talent evaluation. He made two good coaching hires.

Parcells was a great coach but he was not a great coaching hire by Cowboys. He was simply a good one in a morass of bad HC hires.

Greatness = Championships
 

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Put me in the small camp that thinks this season is going to surprise a few people.
The only thing surprising is what way they'll bungle up the last game of the year. When they lost that playoff game last year all I could do was laugh. Not surprised at all. I'm used to it.

Coaches come and go and QBs come and go but Jerry is the one consistent.
 

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A quote by Tex Schram:

:"Tom knew he had authority over the players and everything that had to do with the playing of the game. I had the remainder, There's one thing you must have in football: one continuous line of authority. The players had to understand that, as far as they're concerned, Landry is the boss. They had to understand that the only person I will listen to is Landry. Secondly, they had to understand that I had that kind of backing from Murchison. If everyone doesn't know that there's a definite line of authority, you have chaos."
Sounds about right.
 

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Doug Pederson really won a SB with an inferior team that day . When the wheels fell off it was either him or Roseman leaving . The owner backed the GM . In Jacksonville I think the owners smart enough to get out of the way .

In Dallas you have McClay who I would argue should be the GM . Then a coach who has total authority once the OTA’s and training camp start . Instead you have father and son on competing radio shows and mugging for any camera and microphone near the Art Gallery . Not a heathy chain of command .

:popcorn: :facepalm:

I don't think so. Their O was 7th, their D was 4th. I think they had a superior team, but caught NE in one of the very few years when their D sucked. They were 5th in pts allowed, but 29th in yds allowed. Which is another example of why yds allowed is a much more accurate meter of a D. Basically, if you're giving up a ton of yds, it will most likely kill you in the playoffs. Maybe that works against crapp teams, but it will be exploited against good playoff teams. As it was.
 

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  • Super Bowls Wins (I don't care about 2nd place participation trophies):
    • Jimmy: 2 in 5 years.
    • Landry: 2 in 29 years.
  • Owner & GM
    • Jerry: 3
    • Murchison & Tex Schramm: 2
You are missing so many facts and relevant info here. Kinda shocked.
 

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I don't think so. Their O was 7th, their D was 4th. I think they had a superior team, but caught NE in one of the very few years when their D sucked. They were 5th in pts allowed, but 29th in yds allowed. Which is another example of why yds allowed is a much more accurate meter of a D. Basically, if you're giving up a ton of yds, it will most likely kill you in the playoffs. Maybe that works against crapp teams, but it will be exploited against good playoff teams. As it was.


So your telling me Nick Foles was leading a superior team against Brady ? Huh ? Not to mention Coach B had been to a few SB’s by then while most were a little surprised to see the Eagles and Pedersen in the big game .
 
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As the saying goes ... anything with no head is dead and anything with two heads is a freak.
 

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Maybe you missed my statement...

"I don't care about 2nd place participation trophies"
This team has become a laughingstock with the jets and the lions in our peer group, so the idea of any cowboy fan looking condescendingly at "merely making a super bowl" is with all due respect completely ridiculous.
 

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My bigger point about Jax and the owner after last years meltdown will let the HC be in charge and he can go back to waxing his mustache counting stacks of cash
 

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It took a trick play and Corey Clement passing to Foles to win that game. For what it’s worth the Patriots opened as 6.5 point favorites in that SB
 
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A quote by Tex Schram:

:"Tom knew he had authority over the players and everything that had to do with the playing of the game. I had the remainder, There's one thing you must have in football: one continuous line of authority. The players had to understand that, as far as they're concerned, Landry is the boss. They had to understand that the only person I will listen to is Landry. Secondly, they had to understand that I had that kind of backing from Murchison. If everyone doesn't know that there's a definite line of authority, you have chaos."

The problem here in Dallas has been the loser coaches that have been hired to run the product on the field. Jones is the only idiot that would hire Garrett for 14 years to run his product.

And before Garrett is was a long line of losers that he hired to do the same thing. MM is actually the first legitimate coach he has hired in 30 years besides Parcells. Problem with Parcells is that he was washed up.
 

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The problem here in Dallas has been the loser coaches that have been hired to run the product on the field. Jones is the only idiot that would hire Garrett for 14 years to run his product.

And before Garrett is was a long line of losers that he hired to do the same thing. MM is actually the first legitimate coach he has hired in 30 years besides Parcells. Problem with Parcells is that he was washed up.

You do realize that great coaches will not come to work for Jerry because they don't get to control the roster and the team like Belicheat. Coaches that do come to Dallas get top dollar but, aren't top coaches. Quinn might be the exception if Jerry would let him run things. McCarthy is a stand around lazy bum who knows little about little.
 
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