News: The Reason For the Cowboys Lack of Success in One Paragraph

[McKDaddy]

First and foremost, the America's Team legacy has become toxic and counter productive. No other team in the NFL has a cast of former players acting like groupies and sucking up the energy of current players with all their useless advice and the need for their old man egos to be constantly fed.

So you are saying those who have built the legacy or continued the legacy should defer to players who have never won anything?

 

[kskboys]

And further up this thread Calling Parcells “ washed up “ when he was in Dallas . Really because in his maiden voyage year in Dallas Jason Witten Terence Newman and Brady James came on board. Parcells wanted to go upstairs at the end and be the chief grocery shopper let a hand picked coach hold the whistle and Jerry couldn’t handle that . Parcells was building here ….

Tuna built a very good team here. That culminated in the fine 07 team. And then Jerry immediately started tearing it apart, having no idea why we were winning. To Jerry, it's all about WR's and CB's.

In the offseason after 07, that's when Jerry was out chasing PacMan, while SF easily snapped up DL stalwart Justin Smith, the guy who led that D to the super bowl.

 

[kskboys]

Your right...he did come. He didn't win a championship and Jerry insured his quick departure by bringing in "the player". That was then and he was the last. Now he brings in has beens and never wases. Quinn could be a wonderful hire but, alas he works for fat *** McCarthy.

Are you forgetting the Quinn bombed badly as HC? Manalive, surely you know that a good coordinator is completely different than being a good HC? I mean, no way you don't know that.

 

[TheCritic]

So you are saying those who have built the legacy or continued the legacy should defer to players who have never won anything?

I'm not sure defer is the right way to put it. But how about the Dallas Cowboys organization focusing on the here and now and develop their own identity?

 

[TheCritic]

And the root of all those issues is the authority problem. Those symptoms you're pointing at are just symptoms of the elephant in the room.

Once again you are completely wrong. You need a time out.

 

[Acceptablename]

In the end the haters make points and grudgingly give faint praise.

 

[fivetwos]

Nobody knew Jerry Jones had even made himself the GM. It was never announced. When the media discovered this they asked Jerry point blank who the GM was, him or Jimmy. I personably heard the words coming out of his mouth on my TV set. He said, "The Cowboys have two GM's" This is what ended a dynasty that could have lasted three times longer than it did.

Okay......half of the team that won those three Super Bowls were there before Jimmy including most of the offensive line. Landry started off with an expansion team that didn't even get to draft that year, a far cry from the way expansion teams have started up after that.

You are going to tell me that 11 division titles, three conference championship appearances, three Super Bowl appearances' and three Super Bowl championships are better than 13 division titles, ten conference championship appearances, five Super Bowl appearances' and two Super Bowl championships?

And by the way, the fact that Jerry declared he would never give that much power to a Head Coach again is intimately related to the fact that the Cowboys have never gone to another conference championship game. When Jimmy was here, Jerry signed the checks, greeted players at the airport, and hogged the microphone. That was pretty much the extent of his contribution. He has since attempted to rewrite history but the sports archives contain the truth.

You don't care about "2nd place participation trophies"? Call me skeptical.

So then, if the Cowboys got into the Super Bowl this next season but lost, you would consider that season as equal to all the other non championship seasons? As far as you are concerned there would be absolutely nothing to celebrate.

I know you are a real Cowboys fan....which is why I'm skeptical. I think you would be thrilled overall after recovering enough from the sting of a Super Bowl. loss. Like me, you could never fully recover.

I wouldn't say half, but it is indeed an underrated thing.....as far as the guys that were already here being a big part of things.

Tuinei, Newton, Irvin, Jeffcoat, Hennings, Gogan, Martin.....and of course that first pick in hand in a year when a franchise QB is available.

Herschel was pure genius on Coachs' part, and we know what that became.

Jimmy certainly did his part, but the cupboard wasn't as bare as some think.

 

[starman22]

Are you forgetting the Quinn bombed badly as HC? Manalive, surely you know that a good coordinator is completely different than being a good HC? I mean, no way you don't know that.

He did take Atlanta to a super bowl, so it's not all bad.

 

[Seven]

The question is who's team is it? Who do the players think runs the football team?

In NE, Kraft owns it but it is Belichick's team as far as the players are concerned.

What do you think McCarthy can do without the permission of the owner? Think the players don't know that?

.......and this is exemplified with the TO gig. A very high profile receiver fired by none other than Jed.

Not the HC..

Blastfimas......

 

[McKDaddy]

I'm not sure defer is the right way to put it. But how about the Dallas Cowboys organization focusing on the here and now and develop their own identity?

Well, our thought processes are different but in the end, they do need to create a new identity as a winner rather than a perpetually underachieving organization. In my mind, it's a return to the legacy of excellence that was built before their time. I can also see how it's been dead so long that it would seem like a new identity.
I'm all for it, no matter the viewpoint!!!

 

[LittleD]

Are you forgetting the Quinn bombed badly as HC? Manalive, surely you know that a good coordinator is completely different than being a good HC? I mean, no way you don't know that.

Unless the FO is going to pick from the college ranks, the only coaches left are coordinators or has been coaches. Quinn had some success in Atlanta.

 

[basel90]

unless jerry hires an unquestioned authority as coach , there won't be any success. it is a marketing machine business.

 

[Ranched]

Jerry won't even induct Jimmy into the Cowboys Ring Of Honor. What's that tell us?!

 

[bonafidebanter]

I don't need a paragraph. Only two words. Jones family.

 

[plasticman]

Parcells was a great coach but he was not a great coaching hire by Cowboys. He was simply a good one in a morass of bad HC hires.

Greatness = Championships

Parcels was deceived. He was given assurances by Jerry Jones which were reneged later.

I believe Parcells knew he was just going to satisfy his four year contract after his 2nd season. There were issues long before TO.

The lockerroom had always been the Head Coach's domain. Owners and even GM's rarely entered them during halftime. If they did, then they were silent .
When Stephen entered the lockerroom during one halftime, Parcells told him to leave. Stephen Jones refused, saying that he could go anywhere he wanted around the team. Parcells was livid but said nothing. I cite that instance as the point where Parcells realized he didn't have the authority he had originally assumed.

In management training you are usually taught to think of management as a singular entity when it comes to the staff. A decision by any member of management is considered a universal decision of management. It then becomes the responsibility of all management to support that decision whether they agree or not, If they publicly object to the decision it undermines the authority of that member of management and all management in general.

In private, that member of management who made the decision might be advised to consider a different decision under those circumstances in the future but in front of the staff, the decision is fully supported. Parent typically have the same policy when it comes to their children. Otherwise you have a campaign by the staff of "divide and conquer". In other words, dad said no so we will go ask mom. .

This then leads to an attitude of the staff feeling as though they have the right to evaluate the decision to determine if it is correct and actively seeking a reversal if they feel it isn't. This slows down compliance, creates uncertainty, and erodes confidence in management. We absolutely saw this play out during the Head Coaching years of Parcells, Phillips, and Garrett.

Phillips, in particular, was gelded in front of the team, snip, snip. He was not given a defensive coordinator and so that was his responsibility. Additionally, he was not allowed to participate in the offensive gameplanning. The OC, Jason Garrett, reported directly to Jerry Jones. In effect, that made Jerry Jones the Head Coach because both the OC and DC reported directly to him. The complete 2010 tanking was on him.

Such a confusing structure coupled with decisions by committee eliminated accountability and slowed down any decision making. Jerry Jones also insisted on showcasing the team during training camp in order to attract more fans. He volunteered for HOF games, including 2010. He also split training camp into three separate locations in 2010. This contributed to a terrible start in 2010 and ultimately led to Phillip's dismissal after the embarrassing game #8 loss to Green Bay.

The saddest part was the Cowboys had a great 2009 season and were primed to take the next step during a season in which their stadium was hosting the Super Bowl. Very little was spoken about an ultimate goal of playing in the Super Bowl in their stadium. It never seemed prioritized.

 

[kskboys]

Once again you are completely wrong. You need a time out.

Your attempt to be cryptic ended up just being sad.

 

[kskboys]

He did take Atlanta to a super bowl, so it's not all bad.

Unless the FO is going to pick from the college ranks, the only coaches left are coordinators or has been coaches. Quinn had some success in Atlanta.

Maybe he'd be better as HC w/o that crapp O that Shanny always runs, which always leads to worn out D's and has no place for ball control.

 

[plymkr]

A man has authority or he is not a leader. Parcels had authority he worked for JJ.
JJ runs the show but nobody and I mean nobody held pressers like Bill.
JJ great failure is talent evaluation. He made two good coaching hires.

I agree. I would add Jerry the Owner biggest failure is establishing a dysfunctional culture. Jerry the GM biggest failure is being unable to build a team. He's good at finding star players, he fails at finding supporting cast and forming a cohesive team.

You can't argue against Jerry's drafting. He's had some good drafts getting star power players. It's the other aspects of team building that he isn't as successful. Then the culture that Jerry has established is another barrier for the players to overcome.

I'm holding out hope that the likes of Parsons, Diggs, etc can overcome the dysfunctional organization and win. It happened in 95 so there's hope it can happen again. I'm not betting money on it but there's hope. Stranger things have happened.

 

[Flamma]

Doug Pederson really won a SB with an inferior team that day . When the wheels fell off it was either him or Roseman leaving . The owner backed the GM . In Jacksonville I think the owners smart enough to get out of the way .

In Dallas you have McClay who I would argue should be the GM . Then a coach who has total authority once the OTA’s and training camp start . Instead you have father and son on competing radio shows and mugging for any camera and microphone near the Art Gallery . Not a heathy chain of command .

Back when Chip Kelly was there, the owner gave control to Chip. I'm guessing he didn't want to make the same mistake twice.

No sense in McClay taking over because Jerry wants things done a certain way. He'd have to relinquish most of the control. Zero chance he does that. At best any other GM would be a figurehead. Besides, isn't his son going to take over?

 

[RonWashington]

Are you forgetting the Quinn bombed badly as HC? Manalive, surely you know that a good coordinator is completely different than being a good HC? I mean, no way you don't know that.

Back when Chip Kelly was there, the owner gave control to Chip. I'm guessing he didn't want to make the same mistake twice.

No sense in McClay taking over because Jerry wants things done a certain way. He'd have to relinquish most of the control. Zero chance he does that. At best any other GM would be a figurehead. Besides, isn't his son going to take over?

Chip Kelly like Bobby Petrino fired in Atlanta pre DQ days also the King Saban some guys ( college coaches ) are not cut out for the NFL .

I was posting metaphorically, like McClay who seems to know his way around has been here knows the Jones family would make a good talent evaluator GM . Yes the son is taking over for Jerry .