CFZ The recent history of drafting a RB in the 1st round

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In this particular upcoming draft where there isn't a Jamaar Chase.... would you take the top rated WR over top rated RB at 26? Why?
 

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They hardly throw him the ball . You only have so many cap dollars , based on his injury I offer less then franchise let someone else over pay take a comp pick in 2024
Well I’m also of the belief they are gonna bargain shop in free agency. If they want to use Pollards money to sign someone worthy of a big deal then I’m willing to let him walk.
 

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And it took Gardner Minshew playing QB for the Cowboys to eek out a win @ home.

Regardless, the team's primary ball carrier was drafted 53rd. Given that they're playing this weekend, I don't think they could, or should, give a crap that Dallas beat them in regular season game.
And it took 3 Cooper Rush Int's to beat Dallas at home.
 

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unreal. hoping we don't return to the well this year. bijan or not, i'm not interested
What if you're sure that you see the second coming of Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson, Berry Sanders, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith or Jim Brown?
You gotta take him, right?
 

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In this particular upcoming draft where there isn't a Jamaar Chase.... would you take the top rated WR over top rated RB at 26? Why?
If RB and WR are my only choices, I'd take the WR. I can find a RB later.
 

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If RB and WR are my only choices, I'd take the WR. I can find a RB later.
Not that simple. You need to examine their skillsets and NFL projections first. Just taking a position because you don't like the other positions would be extremely foolish drafting.
 

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As much as I love BJ Robinson (UT fan here), there's no way he will be available at spot 26. Hopefully Jerry won't be an idiot and trade up to get him!!
Exactly, people here are gonna jump out of their skin when he gets picked in the top 20, maybe even 15. Yes, he is a RB, but he also is a difference maker and a three down back. Special player. Teams in desperate need of a RB are not gonna take a chance that he falls into the 2nd. Regardless of the short shelf life. Bad picks also have short shelf lives, the draft is a crap shoot.
 

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I'm good with taking BR at 26 if we're cutting ties with 21.
 

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Not that simple. You need to examine their skillsets and NFL projections first. Just taking a position because you don't like the other positions would be extremely foolish drafting.
We're speaking in general terms.
Given everything equal, I'll take a skilled WR over a skilled RB. More RBs can hit ground running. WR had a little steeper learning curve.
 

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We're speaking in general terms.
Given everything equal, I'll take a skilled WR over a skilled RB. More RBs can hit ground running. WR had a little steeper learning curve.
Nothing is ever equal when referring to drafting.

What you're saying is that you prefer the WR position over the RB position. Fair enough. I'd want to know a ton more details about each before making a decision.
 

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If RB and WR are my only choices, I'd take the WR. I can find a RB later.
That’s too general. Sure if they were graded equally.
But I don’t think you take a top WR in a very weak class who maybe only grade as borderline 1-2 vs top 10 talent in the draft but just so happen he’s a RB.
 

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Nothing is ever equal when referring to drafting.
Sure there are. You can find players who play different positions that have equal value for your team.
I'm sure teams make tough choices like that all time when they draft players.

What you're saying is that you prefer the WR position over the RB position. Fair enough. I'd want to know a ton more details about each before making a decision.
It's not matter of what you prefer. It's more matter of being wise.
I'd rather have a solid lineman than a running, because a good running backs can be had in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round, usually.
 

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That’s too general. Sure if they were graded equally.
But I don’t think you take a top WR in a very weak class who maybe only grade as borderline 1-2 vs top 10 talent in the draft but just so happen he’s a RB.
Well. duh!. :laugh:
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You have to compare apples to apples.
 

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What if you're sure that you see the second coming of Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson, Berry Sanders, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith or Jim Brown?
You gotta take him, right?
can’t be sure, but even still in the salary cap wrs i’d say no
 

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Sure there are. You can find players who play different positions that have equal value for your team.
I'm sure teams make tough choices like that all time when they draft players.


It's not matter of what you prefer. It's more matter of being wise.
I'd rather have a solid lineman than a running, because a good running backs can be had in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round, usually.
No, it's not.

The teams in the super bowl regularly take RBs in the 1st/2nd round. So, I'd say offhand that they are wise. So, maybe it's the fan driven drivel that states that RBs are useless in today's NFL.

There is not such thing as equal value. That's fan stuff.
 

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No, it's not.

The teams in the super bowl regularly take RBs in the 1st/2nd round. So, I'd say offhand that they are wise. So, maybe it's the fan driven drivel that states that RBs are useless in today's NFL.

There is not such thing as equal value. That's fan stuff.
Where/when did I say RBs are useless?
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No, it's not.

The teams in the super bowl regularly take RBs in the 1st/2nd round. So, I'd say offhand that they are wise. So, maybe it's the fan driven drivel that states that RBs are useless in today's NFL.

There is not such thing as equal value. That's fan stuff.
Such a pass heavy league the last 10-15 years teams have devalued the position. Also it also depends on the draft class, this year is supposedly very deep, but quite a few years recently it's been pretty bad. Teams have seen that at best you get 4-6 years out of even the best backs. So it's best to churn every 4-5 years before the 2nd contract and inevitable decline.

Over the last 10 years there have only been 12 RB's drafted in the 1st round, barely over 1 per year and the majority of those are late in the first. Five RB's have gone in the top 10, but only one (Barkely) in the last five years. So obviously with so few going in the 1sthe majority of them are available in the 2nd-4th rounds. By contrast, just in the last two years 11 WR's were drafted in the first round.

Now days I wouldn't take a RB regardless of talent in the first before the bottom portion of the round. And then it'd need to be one who rates as an elite back in a shallow RB class. This year Bijon is said to be a top 10 player in the draft, but it's such a deep RB class that even if you are drafting later in the first you'd need to be confident he is elite and the gap is big enough between him and who you think will be available in the 2nd or 3rd round to really warrant it.
 
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