The refs' "missed" fumble on Schultz changed the entire complexion of the game

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Hey, you try finding something in last night's game to do that with. This was all I had, lol.

Just busting chops. Everyone and their mother skipped right past the /s at the end of the initial post and went right to defense mode. Spits and giggles after a big win. It's the snarky, angry ones that raise eyebrows though. See y'all at my next rules briefing.

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I saw the /s, but I have no idea what that means. I thought it was something you started to write and didn't delete completely. lol
 

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BTW, the replay of the game is on NFLN right now. (Started at 3:00 p.m., eastern)
 

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Since people here like to contend that they just want a fairly called game I'm shocked that this play hasn't been talked about. With Indy already up 3-0 and the Cowboys driving for what would be their first score, Schultz clearly fumbles this ball that the refs, who you all say swallow their whistles, immediately blow a play dead that was a fumble and Indy had pounced on. @Blackrain told me to be vigilant about what the refs might be up to in this game and will you look at this? An egregious benefit to Dallas who were trailing and about to go down 10-0 if this had stood. With the Cowboys as notorious slow starters, pass-happy Moore probably would have abandoned the run and Air (Pick City) Prescott would have been front and center in the offense. This obvious intentional blown call kept that from happening. Matthew Stafford said it best about AT&T Stadium: "Home cookin'!"

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If people don't care that the refs miss calls for Dallas, then we don't give a **** about this situation either. Works both ways.
 

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Possession is the ball tucked away. Pulled from your body is not possession, especially when the ball comes out. Ask Dez in Green Bay. Glad some people here aren't letting themselves be blinded and see it as a fumble.
Where is your /s in all the other post in the thread?
 
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Anyone who doesn't understand why fans don't have a problem with calls that go THEIR TEAM'S way, is just being obtuse. Of course we like bad calls in our favor as opposed to bad calls against us. Why is that so hard to understand? I'm convinced some people appreciate when calls go against us, which makes no sense if you're a fan. At least it's logical to not lament calls in your favor.

And after all that...Schultz recovered it.
 
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Can one of you video guys come up with the entire play where Schultz comes up with the ball and this entire conversation is moot?
 

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He also may not have challenged it because we didn't give him time to get a good look at the replay.

If that's the case then we did him a favor because he would have lost the challenge and a timeout. To win that challenge he needed clear proof of a fumble with a Colts' player clearly recovering the fumble. It was a fumble but he would have lost the challenge based on a Colts' player not having possession of the fumble recovery.

Also, whether he thought it was a fumble or not if he saw a Colts player come up with possession of the football then he would have been stupid to not throw a flag to challenge. Especially if Dallas was doing a hurry up.
 

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Here is the photo of the ball out. Schultz barely has one hand on the ball with the Colts player pouncing on it with 2 hands. The Colts player let go once the ref right there immediately blew his whistle vehemently saying Schultz was down. He clearly wasn't. Egregious non-call.

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This is irrelevant. Players are taught to keep fighting for the ball in the pile. They know plays can be challenged, so they will still fight for the ball regardless. It's his own fault if he let go of the ball.

I agree. It was probably a fumble. But it changed nothing. Schultz got the ball back. End of discussion.
 

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Since people here like to contend that they just want a fairly called game I'm shocked that this play hasn't been talked about. With Indy already up 3-0 and the Cowboys driving for what would be their first score, Schultz clearly fumbles this ball that the refs, who you all say swallow their whistles, immediately blow a play dead that was a fumble and Indy had pounced on. @Blackrain told me to be vigilant about what the refs might be up to in this game and will you look at this? An egregious benefit to Dallas who were trailing and about to go down 10-0 if this had stood. With the Cowboys as notorious slow starters, pass-happy Moore probably would have abandoned the run and Air (Pick City) Prescott would have been front and center in the offense. This obvious intentional blown call kept that from happening. Matthew Stafford said it best about AT&T Stadium: "Home cookin'!"

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Looked out to me, by a few inches.

The real question is why didn't the Colts sideline who was right in front of it, challenge?

Hard to argue complexion of the game as well. We don't know, because it ended in a massive blow out. Refs suck what can I say?
 

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Well had he not recovered it Indy would’ve challenged and received ALL the momentum.
And I'd agree that that would've warranted a debate. But a shoulda, coulda, woulda argument does not, IMO.
 

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1. Knee down before ball came out.
2. He got the ball back.

Not sure why this is even a thing. There's a reason Indy didn't challenge. He got the ball back at that spot. Nothing would have changed.
The knee wasn't down. It was a fumble. But he got it back, so it's moot. Hence, no challenge from Indy. Not sure why we quick-snapped.
 

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Since people here like to contend that they just want a fairly called game I'm shocked that this play hasn't been talked about. With Indy already up 3-0 and the Cowboys driving for what would be their first score, Schultz clearly fumbles this ball that the refs, who you all say swallow their whistles, immediately blow a play dead that was a fumble and Indy had pounced on. @Blackrain told me to be vigilant about what the refs might be up to in this game and will you look at this? An egregious benefit to Dallas who were trailing and about to go down 10-0 if this had stood. With the Cowboys as notorious slow starters, pass-happy Moore probably would have abandoned the run and Air (Pick City) Prescott would have been front and center in the offense. This obvious intentional blown call kept that from happening. Matthew Stafford said it best about AT&T Stadium: "Home cookin'!"

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If you want to make the observation that the refs were on our side last night, this is not the play to use. The Anthony Barr sack was a clear blow to the head on Matt Ryan. That no call was a big momentum shift.
 

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If you want to make the observation that the refs were on our side last night, this is not the play to use. The Anthony Barr sack was a clear blow to the head on Matt Ryan. That no call was a big momentum shift.

Oh wow, thanks. Let me go find it and start a thread. Might not be as effective but hey.
 

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If that's the case then we did him a favor because he would have lost the challenge and a timeout. To win that challenge he needed clear proof of a fumble with a Colts' player clearly recovering the fumble. It was a fumble but he would have lost the challenge based on a Colts' player not having possession of the fumble recovery.

Also, whether he thought it was a fumble or not if he saw a Colts player come up with possession of the football then he would have been stupid to not throw a flag to challenge. Especially if Dallas was doing a hurry up.
Oh, I'm not saying he would've challenged it, and obviously he would've lost the challenge. I'm just saying that if he'd had it in his mind, he would've had to do it completely blind. It's also possible his players told him there'd be no point, since they'd know.
 

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The knee wasn't down. It was a fumble. But he got it back, so it's moot. Hence, no challenge from Indy. Not sure why we quick-snapped.
I assumed they quick snapped to be sure it wasn't called incomplete.
 
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