The Ringer: The Cowboys may have bigger issue than messy contract negotiations

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It's like the husband who gets tired of living with the years long wife. She eventually leaves because of his lust for a much younger bride, but the younger bride ends up not even being half as good a wife as the previous one was. He learns the hard way, "the grass isn't always greener on the other side."
Exactly, most of us men don’t realize that the problem is us. :thumbup: :laugh: Jerry doesn’t realize that the problem with the Cowboys is he fails to invest in free agency. You can’t have a better building block as player or person than Dak.
 

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This.........as stated many times THIS is our major downfall during the post-season IMO. FO never closes the gap with quality free agents between our drafted players and bottom feeders. Yet many want to blame Romo and Dak or Garrett and McCarthy.






When Cowboys fans wonder why they haven’t reached an NFC championship game in three decades and the Eagles have made two Super Bowls in the past seven years, the answer is that the Eagles are shelling out over 50 percent more cash each season than Dallas. This year, for example, the Eagles are outspending the Cowboys in cash on their roster by $100 million. In football terms, the Eagles just want it more.

Simply spending money isn't an answer, but for Eagles credit, they got a good GM who knows how to build a team. Built, tore down and rebuilt between those two SB runs.
Feels like every year Dallas goes into the season with a weakness that may be exposed once or twice during the regular season.
Then the postseason hits and it's our Achilles heel. And while signing player X or Y may not been 100% effective in preventing it, Dallas way of hoping a rookie or second year guy figures it out hasn't worked out at all.
 

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One of them on here accused others of putting Dak above the team. He was showing off his complete lack of awareness as he roots for the Cowboys to lose when Dak plays…thus actually putting one player above the team and winning.
That poster (West Virginia born and bred), was called out about a real plan and he said the Cowboys need to draft the next Mahomes. :facepalm: :rolleyes: Exactly what a middle school child would say.
 

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I also disagree about Prescott being the most impactful free agent of all time. Get outta here with that noise. If there were potential suitors lined up to break the bank for Dak he would waive that no trade clause. There are NO break the bank suitors for a 31 year old QB who has never made it to a conference title game despite stacked rosters and high playoff seeds.
Agreed…if Dak’s agent thought that there was demand for Dak outside of Dallas for the money he is wanting, they would be leveraging Jerry into re-signing him.
Let’s face it Dak has it made in Dallas; the owner treats him with kid gloves; they changed the offense to simplify it…minimizing reads and emphasizing the short-to-intermediate passing routes relying on RAC; the FO also failed to bring in legitimate QBs to compete with Dak for the starting job; and lastly, mediocrity is embraced with ZERO accountability for players, coaches and the FO.
 

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Many have been saying this for a few years now.

Dallas is cheap. When the homers say Jerry wants to win, that's not exactly true. The Cowboys, and probably with Stephen leading the charge, have figured out a way to always look cap strapped WHILE not spending nearly as much on their roster as other teams. Their model seems to be sign a few of your star players, surround them with rookies and young players making little money and ignore FA. It continually fails but the Jones have never been short on stubbornness.

That paragraph about Philly was dead on. They just want it more. Sure, Roseman makes mistakes and screws up but the reality is he takes big risks because he wants to win and the results dwarf ours recently - two SBs in the last 7 years. And unfortunately, if you think the last 25 years have been dark, IMO, get ready because it's not changing under Stephen, who is a penny pinching fraud.
 

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Then the postseason hits and it's our Achilles heel. And while signing player X or Y may not been 100% effective in preventing it, Dallas way of hoping a rookie or second year guy figures it out hasn't worked out at all.
+1 Good example, you can't tell Derrick Henry could help up this season......instead, you sign 5-6 RBs to do everything he could have done.
 

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There is no magic number when it comes to age. Some people lose it in their 70s, some in their 80s. Some never lose it even in their 90s. But I do think Jerry is starting to show some signs of maybe losing it a little. His rambling incoherent responses to questions is an indication he may be struggling to maintain his train of thought as he speaks. He has always been good at shoveling the BS, but it seems different now.

I have had some ideas about Stephen taking over the team, and I think it will be worse than Jerry. But I admit I have no idea how much of Stephen is influenced by Jerry still being involved. We may see a very different Stephen once Jerry steps aside - if Jerry steps aside.

I am not buying into this cash spending argument. He just shelled out $67 million in guaranteed money to CeeDee. He will shell out even more for Dak, and then again next year for Micah. Watch how fast that cash spend argument disappears after next year.
 

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It's like the husband who gets tired of living with the years long wife. She eventually leaves because of his lust for a much younger bride, but the younger bride ends up not even being half as good a wife as the previous one was. He learns the hard way, "the grass isn't always greener on the other side."
Is that how you see it? I ask because that is an incorrect analogy for what @baltcowboy stated.

A better analogy would be a family member constantly and relentlessly nagging their spouse, parents and/or siblings for a personal preferred outcome--at the expense of the family's wants and well-being. Just saying the same thing over and over, day after day, in order for them to bend to the individual's desire.

Dak Prescott is not a jilted spouse in this particular instance. He is the toy that the kids are tired of playing with. Yes. Lust may be the driving factor but it is lusting for the new toy they want in place of the old one.

Nothing anyone says here is coercing Prescott into doing anything. Another quarterback will not replace him because CowboysZone members say they want Prescott to leave the team. Certainly, there may be some members, who will later regret how events unfolded, but they will come to that conclusion based upon events they had zero control over.

Fanship is family, no matter how dysfunctional it may actually be. The Dallas Cowboys are not a part of that family. The team and its players are who the family enjoys, are fulfilled by, or even possibly come to resent--which has been a stance adopted by more than 'one particular side'.
 

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if Dak’s agent thought that there was demand for Dak outside of Dallas for the money he is wanting, they would be leveraging Jerry into re-signing him.
How do you know they are not? I am 100% confident Dak's agent can probably peel off at least 2-3 who pay Dak close to what he wants right now.
 

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The Cowboys’ Issues May Be Bigger Than Their Messy Contract Negotiations​

Dak Prescott is still unsigned beyond this season, cash spending has been low for the past decade, and ownership questions are only growing. Where does Dallas go from here?

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/9/3/24232254/dallas-cowboys-jerry-jones-stephen-jones-ownership
given the goal for Jerry is for cowboys to stay relevant and as long as possible milk whatever you can, I think he is come to the end of the run with a team that's good enough to get into playoffs but not advance. this goes as far back as Romo and continued onto Dak. so he is been having difficulty generating more hope and reasons for fans to follow the cowboys and now hte fans are demanding playoff success. and he can't produce, because he doesn't care. so the next logical step is to have the cowboys tank. end up with a top 5, top 10 pick. it generates hope because fans are going to get excited about a potential new QB, he can then milk that for another 4,5, 6 years......

I am not wishing death, but as long as Jerry is alive, this is going to be the way.

only to probably get worse under Stephen.
 

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I have had some ideas about Stephen taking over the team, and I think it will be worse than Jerry.
I do think Stephen will consider hiring a GM coz I'm not sure he thinks he is as much a football person as Jerry. Remember contracts/finances have been his strength.
 

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Maybe it is time that Jerry sells the team to the highest bidder that actually cares about winning a Super Bowl. Stephen's pension for making more money over winning is just wrong when you should be concerned about winning.

It appears though that we will have to suffer as a Cowboy fan with owners who care less about winning than they do about lining their pockets.
 

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I disagree with one point made - Jerry doesn't firmly believe in his control because he's admitted in the past he would get fired elsewhere. Also, Jerry resorting to cussing in response gives away his bruised ego at the question. He knows, but he is a slave to his ego, and cannot bring himself to do the right thing, because then the fans were right all along and they win.
Jerry hears the criticism as it's become louder and louder. It would be hard to ignore at this point, especially now that you are seeing more and more former players also wonder what Jerry is doing.

And like most narcissistic egomaniacs, they get angry when their self awarded greatness is questioned. For all the BS from Jerry about how he learns his lessons, he's a stubborn fool along with his son and instead of introspection in the face of now consistent criticism, they lash out and are defiant.

Long story short, we are screwed as a franchise. It's never going to get better than it is right now unless somewhere along the lines one of the Jones' not named Stephen or Jerry realize they are screwing this up. While not likely, it's the only way out of this in the next 4-5 years.

Fans are starting to wake up. Oxnard has seen diminishing fan interest. They now have more information at this disposal to see how the Jones are mismanaging the roster - for example, the data on cash spent on the roster where the Cowboys have been one of the cheaper teams in terms of investment in their roster over the last decade while crying how cap poor they are. People are starting to smell the BS now. And if the Cowboys can't figure out how to get this thing beyond where they've been for the last two and half decades, the cries and criticism and fan anger is only going to get louder.
 

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Is that how you see it? I ask because that is an incorrect analogy for what @baltcowboy stated.

A better analogy would be a family member constantly and relentlessly nagging their spouse, parents and/or siblings for a personal preferred outcome--at the expense of the family's wants and well-being. Just saying the same thing over and over, day after day, in order for them to bend to the individual's desire.

Dak Prescott is not a jilted spouse in this particular instance. He is the toy that the kids are tired of playing with. Yes. Lust may be the driving factor but it is lusting for the new toy they want in place of the old one.

Nothing anyone says here is coercing Prescott into doing anything. Another quarterback will not replace him because CowboysZone members say they want Prescott to leave the team. Certainly, there may be some members, who will later regret how events unfolded, but they will come to that conclusion based upon events they had zero control over.

Fanship is family, no matter how dysfunctional it may actually be. The Dallas Cowboys are not a part of that family. The team and its players are who the family enjoys, are fulfilled by, or even possibly come to resent--which has been a stance adopted by more than 'one particular side'.
If this analogy works better for you or others, nothing wrong with that. It all means the same thing: careful what you wish for. The grass definitely might not be greener on the other side.
 

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wow 1004 Post counts, either Prescott or mix with Jones and the same exact responses from the same people as if its al copy paste rinse and repeat!!! you were hoping CD drama went on longer , hoped he held out into the season, to keep that drama going, jerry rained on your parade so Immediately they turn to Dak and continue the same 28-year rant blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

still find a way to claim you are a fan...if you don't like it there's the door..

there is no bigger issue, it's a year to year league and let's just keep it at that ,

for all you super-duper NFL execs in here in the media , ex execs who failed and got fired and jealous of Jerry, that know better "cash Spending"? they spend almost all of their cap and try and leave enough for emergencies or future contract needs. Its a HARD salary cap and MOST teams have the same exact spending, but do it divided differently .not much difference other than carry over..

so, give it a rest all you lost your calling just parrot data you find on the net , link it to story, and it makes you an expert?!! :facepalm: :espn: :popcorn::oldcouple:
 

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That poster (West Virginia born and bred), was called out about a real plan and he said the Cowboys need to draft the next Mahomes. :facepalm: :rolleyes: Exactly what a middle school child would say.

31 teams could solve their problems if they simply would draft "the next Mahomes". Lol
 

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I also disagree about Prescott being the most impactful free agent of all time. Get outta here with that noise. If there were potential suitors lined up to break the bank for Dak he would waive that no trade clause. There are NO break the bank suitors for a 31 year old QB who has never made it to a conference title game despite stacked rosters and high playoff seeds.
Can Tom Brady signing with TB and then winning a SB be considered the most impactful FA signing?
As many believe Dallas had a good enough team to win it if Brady would have came here as well.
 

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wow 1004 Post counts, either Prescott or mix with Jones and the same exact responses from the same people as if its al copy paste rinse and repeat!!! you were hoping CD drama went on longer , hoped he held out into the season, to keep that drama going, jerry rained on your parade so Immediately they turn to Dak and continue the same 28-year rant blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

still find a way to claim you are a fan...if you don't like it there's the door..

there is no bigger issue, it's a year to year league and let's just keep it at that ,

for all you super-duper NFL execs in here in the media , ex execs who failed and got fired and jealous of Jerry, that know better "cash Spending"? they spend almost all of their cap and try and leave enough for emergencies or future contract needs. Its a HARD salary cap and MOST teams have the same exact spending, but do it divided differently .not much difference other than carry over..

so, give it a rest all you lost your calling just parrot data you find on the net , link it to story, and it makes you an expert?!! :facepalm: :espn: :popcorn::oldcouple:
This shows your ignorance and partially explains why you struggle to understand why Jerry gets the criticism he does.

You don't have to be an expert to understand the basics of the cap, cash spent, their synergy, etc.
 
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