The Solution: Make Jason Garrett the GM

Craig

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The solution for the team will always be to hire a gm or to make the hc the gm. This is nothing new, and this is not happening.
 

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Jerry would never make Jason the GM but I do like the idea of moving him into the front office so we can hire a real coach. I think he may actually be beneficial in the front office and his demeanor is much more suited fro that type of role. Some give him credit fro the revival of our roster,(I am on the fence about that but he did have at least some input). If it is true that he had a lot of influence on the roster then it would be even better having him in the front office. Anything to get him off of the sideline.
 

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At least he has some previous NFL experience, a huge upgrade over the previous GM.

In reality, nothing would change, except Jerry would be getting a lot of people off his butt, he could get Jason to do some of the more tedious operational stuff.

Most importantly, the position of Head Coach would open up. Jason Garrett has worked with lot of coaches, there would probably be no conflict between the two.

Let's not forget, Jason did take over a 1-7 team and went 5-3 despite Romo being out.
He did instill a culture of competition, you can't blame him for this debacle, I'm pretty sure he didn't write up a play that calls for Tony Romo to break his clavicle.....and call it two times in a season.

Jerry has over 25 years of GM experience. How does Garrett have more experience? If you own a bodyshop for 25 years and repair vehicles at your shop for 25 years, do you not have 25 years of automotive repair experience?
 

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Tough crowd.....

Anyway, Merry Christmas.

After the holidays, the debate resumes. How do they get our beloved team back to the top?

We need a "football mesiah".

Merry xmas and yeah its tough in the zone. Thats no joke
 

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Jerry would never make Jason the GM but I do like the idea of moving him into the front office so we can hire a real coach. I think he may actually be beneficial in the front office and his demeanor is much more suited fro that type of role. Some give him credit fro the revival of our roster,(I am on the fence about that but he did have at least some input). If it is true that he had a lot of influence on the roster then it would be even better having him in the front office. Anything to get him off of the sideline.

It really depends on what position. Personally, I don't want him around to undermine the next HC. The next HC will have to dictate to the scouts and GM his vision and what he wants from certain players and positions. I don't need Garrett to put his two cents in where it doesn't belong.
 

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@plasticman , I agree to a point, an I appreciate you putting this out there...I have said numerous times that JG should stay, but not in any capacity related to coaching; much in the same manner, JJ or SJ should not do anything related to the team until it is time to sign the checks - go drink your crown royal, and sit in the owners box...they should have as much say in the team regarding game day as Spaulding (the little snot-nosed, do nothing little freak)...I could see JG being a GM-type, but that seems like a way to get him out and appease Jones, the owner...Will McClay is a guy that I would trust for now...but, the real problem is getting a Head Coach that can put his own stamp and staff in place....until Jones puts down his booze, stays away from EVERY media source on earth and let's football guys run the team, we will all suffer through seasons like this (more like decades like this)
 

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Jerry has over 25 years of GM experience. How does Garrett have more experience? If you own a bodyshop for 25 years and repair vehicles at your shop for 25 years, do you not have 25 years of automotive repair experience?

If I bought the shop with no prior mechanical experience and have been reported to the better business bureau too many times to count because I am incompetent at my job, I'm not sure those 25 years mean anything. All it really means is I have the means to do it and haven't died in those 25 years.
 

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Failed as QB coach, solution: let's make him OC

failed as OC, solution: let's make him HC

Failed as HC, solution: let's make him GM

I think the only solution is to make Garrett the team mascot and be done with it

My name is Bleu and I fully endorse this message.
 

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Better idea .. let Jerry sell the team ... I'll take anyone behind door 1

:cool:
 

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Jerry has over 25 years of GM experience. How does Garrett have more experience? If you own a bodyshop for 25 years and repair vehicles at your shop for 25 years, do you not have 25 years of automotive repair experience?

Thank you. That was probably the most hilarious post I've ever read.

Jerry Jones has 25 years experience as a GM....that is going to be a classic.

Let me be specific:

Experience is only valuable when it is success that you have experienced.

Experiencing success is only respected when it is believed that a the person played a relevant role in that success consistent with their title and responsibilities.

Justifying credibility on past results has an expiration date, a very short period of time in sports.

If Jerry Jones had requested an opportunity to be a GM in the NFL without being that team's owner, there wiuldnt have been a single team in the 32 that would have even opened their doors to him for an interview.

If Jerry Jones had been the GM for the Cowboys without being the owner then the Cowboys would never have hired Jimmy Johnson who demanded full autonomy, written into his contract. He hired all the coaches, made all personnel moves, and managed all team functions.

Therefore, the Dallas Cowboys would never have been built to win 3 Super Bowls, actually an underachiement considering the potential it had.

The typical length of a GM's tenure without a single appearance in a conference championship is 5 to 7 years. Try to find a GM with longer tenure without that requirement.

It has been 20 seasons for the Cowboys. Any other owner would have fired three consecutive Jerry Joneses by now.
 

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Thank you. That was probably the most hilarious post I've ever read.

Jerry Jones has 25 years experience as a GM....that is going to be a classic.

Let me be specific:

Experience is only valuable when it is success that you have experienced.

Experiencing success is only respected when it is believed that a the person played a relevant role in that success consistent with their title and responsibilities.

Justifying credibility on past results has an expiration date, a very short period of time in sports.

If Jerry Jones had requested an opportunity to be a GM in the NFL without being that team's owner, there wiuldnt have been a single team in the 32 that would have even opened their doors to him for an interview.

If Jerry Jones had been the GM for the Cowboys without being the owner then the Cowboys would never have hired Jimmy Johnson who demanded full autonomy, written into his contract. He hired all the coaches, made all personnel moves, and managed all team functions.

Therefore, the Dallas Cowboys would never have been built to win 3 Super Bowls, actually an underachiement considering the potential it had.

The typical length of a GM's tenure without a single appearance in a conference championship is 5 to 7 years. Try to find a GM with longer tenure without that requirement.

It has been 20 seasons for the Cowboys. Any other owner would have fired three consecutive Jerry Joneses by now.

Is this a bad time to point out Stephen Jones has over two decades of personnel experience on his resume?
 

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Jerry would never make Jason the GM but I do like the idea of moving him into the front office so we can hire a real coach. I think he may actually be beneficial in the front office

Right. Can you imagine the impact he would have on the office staff. No other NFL team would have as proficient of an office staff at stacking papers on top of papers.
 

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Jerry has over 25 years of GM experience. How does Garrett have more experience? If you own a bodyshop for 25 years and repair vehicles at your shop for 25 years, do you not have 25 years of automotive repair experience?

All depends on what kinda repairs you're doing.
 

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How does the personel desision making break down anyways? Is there a bad decision guy and a good desision gut?

One guy that drafts Zach Martin, Byron Jones, Demarcus Lawrence, and Randy Gregory. Gets two productive years out of Rolando McClain, signs Greg Hardy and finds use out of Darren McFadden and Jeremy Mincey

And a different guy that drafts horrible scheme fits and/or overall useless players on day 3 and signs guys like Brandon Weeden, Terrell McClain, Jed Collins, Jasper Brinkley, Ray Agnew, Andrew Gatchkar,?
 

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This is actually a decent idea but I worry he wouldn't get players like Hardy romac and such. Sorry no dfense to anybody on here but we're trying to build a football team here not a choir!
 

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It would solve the criticism of Jerry making himself the GM.

It would solve the salary issues of Garrett's contract.

Garrett's input into personnel and his philosophy of the type of player needed is right on. His real issue has been game management and strategy. The Cowboys would be utilizing his strongest asserts while eliminating his negatives.

Garrett is familiar with a lot of good coaches around the league and in college. They would be willing to work with him.

Garrett has the family background and support for the job. His brother was the Cowboys Director of Pro Personnel and his dad was a 30 year scout in the league.

Stephen Jones would have a GM close to his age and who he is extremely familiar and comfortable with when the time comes.

Jerry could still have the ability to influence football decisions without it appearing so and without most of the media criticism.

Strange idea, I admit. However, in reality not much would change except the oppdortunity to get a really good coach willing to come to the Dallas Cowboys. The greatest impediment in the past has been the current GM.

I'm with it.
 

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How does the personel desision making break down anyways? Is there a bad decision guy and a good desision gut?

One guy that drafts Zach Martin, Byron Jones, Demarcus Lawrence, and Randy Gregory. Gets two productive years out of Rolando McClain, signs Greg Hardy and finds use out of Darren McFadden and Jeremy Mincey

And a different guy that drafts horrible scheme fits and/or overall useless players on day 3 and signs guys like Brandon Weeden, Terrell McClain, Jed Collins, Jasper Brinkley, Ray Agnew, Andrew Gatchkar,?

Yes.

Garrett found the good guys and gets the credit.

Jerry wanted the bums and gets blamed.
 
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