The Steelers have had issues retaining top players

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This isn't excusing Pickens' immaturity issues, but the Steelers have a pattern of not losing elite players after their rookie year.

 
Not sure I’d say that many of those guys were elite. I mean Fields we weren’t even sure would get a starting gig, Najee looks like RB2, Pickett isn’t likely to start, Claypool hasn’t done anything since leaving Pittsburgh, Juju caught 18 balls last year. The only real elite players are AB who we know had his own issues. Pickens could eventually get there, emphasis on could.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
This isn't excusing Pickens' immaturity issues, but the Steelers have a pattern of not losing elite players after their rookie year.

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I was listening to Steelers radio and one of the hosts joked Cowboys have had more success then Steelers since they’ve won a playoff game in 8 years. Steelers aren’t the model organization they get credited for. Offensively they have a problem. All those guys you listed are on offense.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Not sure I’d say that many of those guys were elite. I mean Fields we weren’t even sure would get a starting gig, Najee looks like RB2, Pickett isn’t likely to start, Claypool hasn’t done anything since leaving Pittsburgh, Juju caught 18 balls last year. The only real elite players are AB who we know had his own issues. Pickens could eventually get there, emphasis on could.
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I remember when Juju, Diontae and Claypool. Maybe not an elite player but that was a elite group though and were all young.
 
JBS said:
Steelers let all of those guys go intentionally and just about every single one of them sucked after leaving Pittsburgh.
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Isn’t that what happens though? Young guys leave the organization that developed them and they go to never be as good. Unless you are a star. AB was a star. We know Pickens has more talent then all of those guys up there.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I remember when Juju, Diontae and Claypool. Maybe not an elite player but that was a elite group though and were all young.
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Yeah not that long ago either, and they all were talked about as potential top guys. All have fallen pretty hard since leaving Pittsburgh with juju probably having the best career so far. That’s the part I worry about with Pickens is how often these guys fall off the map after leaving. I do think Pickens is probably the best all around player of that group though.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Yeah not that long ago either, and they all were talked about as potential top guys. All have fallen pretty hard since leaving Pittsburgh with juju probably having the best career so far. That’s the part I worry about with Pickens is how often these guys fall off the map after leaving. I do think Pickens is probably the best all around player of that group though.
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Yeah but what is it though? They all had behavioral issues but the talent wasn’t lacking. It’s odd.
 
The GM of the Steelers is letting player walk this season to build up comp picks for next year. Players who price themselves out or don't offer the talent, they are moving them. There was a Steelers report i saw earlier today that talked about this.
 
From an outside perspective I think Mike Tomlin's act in Pittsburgh is growing thin. So he constantly tries to reboot the roster in an attempt to show the front office "look, I am changing things, I'm shaking this up and this is how we will get better".

This isn't the old NFL where coaches can last decades like a Tom Landry or a Don Shula. Tomlin is a good coach, he has been for a very long time, but it's probably time for the Steelers to move in another direction.

Or, this is all a plan to tank to get their QB in 2026. They can even use the extra 3rd they got from trading Pickens in a trade package to move up for a QB of their choosing.

Again this is just how I see it. Have no idea what they are doing in Pittsburgh but I am willing to let Pickens prove himself here before passing judgment.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
From an outside perspective I think Mike Tomlin's act in Pittsburgh is growing thin. So he constantly tries to reboot the roster in an attempt to show the front office "look, I am changing things, I'm shaking this up and this is how we will get better".

This isn't the old NFL where coaches can last decades like a Tom Landry or a Don Shula. Tomlin is a good coach, he has been for a very long time, but it's probably time for the Steelers to move in another direction.

Or, this is all a plan to tank to get their QB in 2026. They can even use the extra 3rd they got from trading Pickens in a trade package to move up for a QB of their choosing.

Again this is just how I see it. Have no idea what they are doing in Pittsburgh but I am willing to let Pickens prove himself here before passing judgment.
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But they just gave DK all that money but it sure looks like a tank job. Unless they get Rodgers…
 
Let’s hope Pickens is special, but there was nothing special about the other Jerseys that guy revealed.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Yeah not that long ago either, and they all were talked about as potential top guys. All have fallen pretty hard since leaving Pittsburgh with juju probably having the best career so far. That’s the part I worry about with Pickens is how often these guys fall off the map after leaving. I do think Pickens is probably the best all around player of that group though.
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In some ways, I'd be more concerned about it if he was brought in to be the star at the position. I think he'd fail at that. Being the player who takes advantage if defenses sit on Lamb should suit Pickens.

In other words, he doesn't really have to put up the numbers he did in Pittsburgh to be successful here. It would be great to have to 1,000-yard receivers, though.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
But they just gave DK all that money but it sure looks like a tank job. Unless they get Rodgers…
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No idea what they are doing. Haven't really even tried at QB since the 1st round swing and miss on Kenny Pickett. Then they give all that money to Metcalf with no legit QB on the roster. They let Najee Harris walk, then they trade away Pickens.

Just weird. Even Rodgers at this point in his career is a one or two year placeholder. Like I said yesterday, my guess is they might use the 3rd they got from Dallas in a trade package to move up for a QB in 2026. Who knows.
 
gimmesix said:
In some ways, I'd be more concerned about it if he was brought in to be the star at the position. I think he'd fail at that. Being the player who takes advantage if defenses sit on Lamb should suit Pickens.

In other words, he doesn't really have to put up the numbers he did in Pittsburgh to be successful here. It would be great to have to 1,000-yard receivers, though.
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In theory I would agree with you, but he is in a contract year and will want to put up WR1 numbers.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
No idea what they are doing. Haven't really even tried at QB since the 1st round swing and miss on Kenny Pickett. Then they give all that money to Metcalf with no legit QB on the roster. They let Najee Harris walk, then they trade away Pickens.

Just weird. Even Rodgers at this point in his career is a one or two year placeholder. Like I said yesterday, my guess is they might use the 3rd they got from Dallas in a trade package to move up for a QB in 2026. Who knows.
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Yeah I don’t understand. Even with Rodgers like you said. I could see having Pickens and DK then maybe….

Unless it’s a tank job to finally get out of this 9-8 hole.
 
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