The Texas Coast Offense (West Coast + Air Coryell)

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
You mean they can retire but they don't have jobs because of collusion.

The NFL is not most industries. There is no comparable organization. It's not like they can leave Google and go work for Microsoft and certainly not at the market rate. They are a trust that is allowed to exist because of the CBA. They should not be allowed to collude but they do it systemically.
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might not have jobs because they want big money. For the right price they will find work easily. playing pro sports is a privilege not a birthright. I would luv Jacobs and wouldn't mind getting him or Henry. Id pay them more than any other,because they are special. But they are the exception. This is the great debate I guess.
 
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Rayman70 said:
might not have jobs because they want big money. For the right price they will find work easily. playing pro sports is a privilege not a birthright. I would luv Jacobs and wouldn't mind getting him or Henry. Id pay them more than any other,because they are special. But they are the exception. This is the great debate I guess.
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Come on man, it is obvious that there is a concerted effort to devalue the market for RB. You are speaking as if it is only 1 of them.
 
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Rayman70 said:
whats that these days? :laugh: He who makes the rules cleary don't care about law. Just look at the world we reside in right now. Its lawless more or less.
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So, nihilistic social darwinism is the answer? whatever you can get away with is okay?
 
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gimmesix said:
Schottenheimer is essentially the run coordinator, with Mike Solari hired as offensive line coach based off their success in Seattle. Mike is the pass coordinator and will mix more West Coast into what he keeps from the previous scheme.

Here's more on that pairing:

Solari later reunited with the Seahawks for the 2018 season, replacing a coach who had almost exclusively run a zone blocking scheme. His hiring coincided with new offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, who introduced a varied running scheme that relied on the multiple schemes that Solari has excelled in throughout his extensive career.
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So...what are we running? AirCor or WCoast?

Cause OC and OL coaches are not exactly WCoast coaches. Run the ball and play action.

They had a lot of success in Seattle though.

Doesn't make sense. From what i've read, WC terminology is different than AirCor.
 
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rnr_honeybadger said:
This tells me that nothing has changed. They just repackaged and rebranded the same garbage.
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It’s nonsense. All they doing is adding some of what MM did in GB, while retaining the same offense. It’s basically like Bill Callahan all over again, calling plays in the Garrett offense.

Now Mike McCarthy is supposedly about a faster pace, when prior he was saying Moore was too aggressive, leading to the defense being worn out.

This repackaging of “up tempo” as if MOORe didn’t have to go to it multiples times, because slow as molasses Dak can’t process a defense is snake oil. Dak even spoke about up-tempo being a feature of the offense years ago, meaning 2020:

“We want to play fast,” Prescott said Thursday, via Pro Football Talk. “We want to play with tempo, regardless if we’re up by a few touchdowns, the game’s tied or we’re down. It just gives us more opportunities on offense, more opportunities to create big plays and score more points. I’d say the tempo is definitely purposeful.”
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https://clutchpoints.com/cowboys-news-dak-prescott-presses-uptempo-offensive-philosophy-team

It sounds to me like they are dumbing down the offense for the “elite” QB in reality.
 
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DuncanIso said:
So...what are we running? AirCor or WCoast?

Cause OC and OL coach are not exactly WCoast coaches. Run the ball and play action.

They had a lot of success in Seattle though.

Doesn't make sense. From what i've read, WC terminology is different than AirCor.
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Schottenheimer ran the Seattle version of the Coryell but that was the Bevell version which was more about formation deployment and all the RPO, playaction. It was not the 1979 Chargers.

Schott came in to the league with his father as an offensive QC guy in KC. Nepotism aside, MM was the QB coach there and Joe Montana's old QB coach, Paul Hackett, was the OC.

Schottenheimer is very qualified to mesh the two systems together.
 
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khiladi said:
It’s nonsense. All they doing is adding some of what MM did in GB, while retaining the same offense. It’s basically like Bill Callahan all over again, calling plays in the Garrett offense.

Now Mike McCarthy is supposedly about a faster pace, when prior he was saying Moore was too aggressive, leading to the defense being worn out.
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He didn't say he was too aggressive. He said he only had sight on chasing points with no vision for the rest of the team.

They are not the same thing.
 
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DuncanIso said:
So...what are we running? AirCor or WCoast?

Cause OC and OL coaches are not exactly WCoast coaches. Run the ball and play action.

They had a lot of success in Seattle though.

Doesn't make sense. From what i've read, WC terminology is different than AirCor.
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It seems that we will be using a lot of West Coast principles in the passing game with some Air Coryell mixed in. Blocking scheme and run principles are what the OC and OL coach bring to the table. I think McCarthy is marrying his terminology with the existing terminology here rather than having the team learn completely new terminology.
 
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the game can't be played at a high level sans the rb being moderately effective. We all agree on that, no matter what we call the offense. Its football 101.
 
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