The Tony Romo Reality Check

Legend

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No one thinks that and no one has ever said or implied it.
Check this thread: They are using regular season stats for their justification.

Video:Dak asked about following Aikman/Staubach's legacy​


“Lol, we've seen Aikman with the beginning of the clown show and he did nothing, let alone when it had fully set in.

Romo was a better QB than Aikman, learn to separate individual play from team results.”

“Aikman would be in a casket after what Romo went through from 2009 to 2013.

And Aikman looked like absolute crap after he lost a couple of all-pros on offense.”

“Aikman has outright said Romo is a better QB than he was.”
 

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How'd that "free run" at the playoffs work out for us last year playing in the worst division in football? You still have to beat the best in the playoffs. And Brady won it his first season starting.
How many HOME playoff games did Brady play in his career? In the AFC he played in 13 Conference championships mostly at home. Worst win/Loss records in the NFL since the year 2000: Bill's-11th, Jets-6th, Dolphins-15th.

So clearly the weak division contributed to post season success. The playoff games were played through NE.
 

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Let's take a look back at some of the fine starting o-linemen in front of Romo:
Cory Procter, Phil Costa, Montrae Holland, Mackenzy Bernadeau, Ryan Cook, Nate Livings...supported by tight ends like James Hanna, Martellus Bennett and John Phillips

On defense during the Romo years who can forget starters like Igor Olshansky, Stephen Bowen, Alan Ball, Keith Davis, Kenyon Coleman, Abram Elam, Danny McCray, Kyle Wilber, Nick Hayden, George Selvie, Jeremy Mincey, Greg Hardy, Tyronne Crawford, J.J. Wilcoxm, Jack Crawford

Yes all these were Cowboys starters. Unbelievable.
Wow just wow! Way to cherry pick and leave out all his pro bowlers

And never disrespect the golden cock like that lol
 

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Nobody said Tony Romo didn’t have a supporting cast. Stop inventing strawmans. What they have said is Romo was never the or a reason why the team didn’t advance further in the playoffs.
 

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Nobody said Tony Romo didn’t have a supporting cast. Stop inventing strawmans. What they have said is Romo was never the or a reason why the team didn’t advance further in the playoffs.
And they're wrong. Romo was absolutely the reason for the loss at Seattle. He dropped the damn snap. There is nobody else we can possibly blame for that. I said to myself right then that his career would be cursed.
 

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And they're wrong. Romo was absolutely the reason for the loss at Seattle. He dropped the damn snap. There is nobody else we can possibly blame for that. I said to myself right then that his career would be cursed.
That play has nothing to do with the QB position. And really? You thought to yourself that his career would be cursed from then on because of lubed up ball provided by the opposing team's man? Come on man. That's just silly.
 

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Aikman himself said Romo was a better QB than him. But Aikman wouldn’t trade his three SBs for the honor of that title.
That was in 2012. Ask Aikman now.

“But Romo will never be considered in the class of Aikman and Roger Staubach unless the Cowboys win a title during his tenure.

"He has a good team around him," Aikman said. "Hopefully -- and I believe this will happen -- I believe that he will win a Super Bowl before he is done playing."
 

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That was in 2012. Ask Aikman now.

“But Romo will never be considered in the class of Aikman and Roger Staubach unless the Cowboys win a title during his tenure.

"He has a good team around him," Aikman said. "Hopefully -- and I believe this will happen -- I believe that he will win a Super Bowl before he is done playing."
Do you think I know Aikman personally to "ask Aikman now"?

Quoting the opinion of the article's author prior to what Aikman said doesn't change what Aikman said.
 

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Cowboys have a divisional playoff game in less than 48 hours and some of y'all are rehashing the Romo years? :huh:
Not really. As said in the OP, I’m sick of hearing about Romo in every thread I open. Just yesterday, there were two about the upcoming game and what it might mean if we won. In both threads, Romo was brought up like he would have won multiple big playoff games like this if he’d had a defense or if he’d had the weapons Dak has. I was sick of it and decided to point out the facts of Romo’s 6 playoff games To contrast with the fantasy.
 

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@12+88=7

The narrative, over the years, has been if Romo would have had a better defense, he could want two Super Bowls. I've been guilty of saying that a couple of times myself.

The OP is saying that the defense stepped up in the playoffs, while Romo didn't. And he backed up that statement with stats. I've never looked at the playoff stats for the Romo years, so the OP was eye opening to me.
 

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Why are we still talking about Romo?

Loved the guy but he has been gone for over half a decade.
That’s my point….he creeps into every thread like he was the league MVP with a garbage team around him.
 

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And they're wrong. Romo was absolutely the reason for the loss at Seattle. He dropped the damn snap. There is nobody else we can possibly blame for that. I said to myself right then that his career would be cursed.
How many starting QB's hold for snaps? He should've been replaced by someone else the moment he became a starter.

Also, if Grammatica could've just thrown himself in front of a defender he probably scores there. Not expected of a kicker, but just saying...
 

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No interest here in comparing Dak and Tony. Love 'em both.

But as to Romo's supporting cast, it's the OP that is mistaken. After year one, Romo suffered with horrible coaches and coordinators, bad defenses and poor o-lines most every year.

Dak finally this year enjoys the support of a top ten defense, but it's not elite. Dak's playmakers this year have been ok, but not top ten. Zeke is more anchor at this point.

Both Dak and Tony fight uphill against dysfunctional ownership, which permeates a lot of things.
The point was he didn’t have bad defensive performances in his 6 playoff games. They were all low scoring affairs. He had Tyron Smith and an OL that gave him good run stats in every playoff game.
 

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The narrative, over the years, has been if Romo would have had a better defense, he could want two Super Bowls. I've been guilty of saying that a couple of times myself.

The OP is saying that the defense stepped up in the playoffs, while Romo didn't. And he backed up that statement with stats. I've never looked at the playoff stats for the Romo years, so the OP was eye opening to me.
Holding the opposing team to 22.6 points per game is not "stepping up" at any level. The Giants defense "stepped up" to hold opposing teams to 16 points per game in 2007 and 14 points per game in 2011.
 
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Tony Romo was an excellent QB for the Dallas Cowboys. I don’t know about you, but despite the Cabo incident and the occasional untimely turnover early in his career, I always loved him as he gave me hope.

However, I’m sick of seeing him brought up in many threads lamenting how he was never given a supporting cast. It’s ridiculous and untrue. In his ten seasons as the starter, Romo went to the playoffs only 4 times despite playing with true super stars at WR, a HOF TE, and Tyron Smith in his prime, along with HOF Demarcus Ware and other pro bowl players. In 6 playoff games, he only threw 8 TD passes.

In his first playoff win, he led the offense to 34 points vs Philly when he passed for only 228, but the team also rushed for 198. Lots of support in that game as the defense held Philly to 14 points and created 4 turnovers.

In his second playoff victory, he led the offense to 24 points vs the Detroit Lions, passing for 242 and 2 TDs. The defense held Detroit to 20 points, so they did not require a high scoring affair.

In his 4 losses, the scores were 20-21 (passed for 189 while team rushed for 116); 17-21 (passed for 201 while team rushed for 154); 3-34 (passed for 156 with an INT while team rushed for 92), 21-26 (passed for 191 while team rushed for 148).

I supported and loved Romo as my QB, but I’m sick of this false narrative that he wasn’t supported. He had a good OL, a good to great running game from time to time, great receivers and TE, and his defense averaged holding teams to 22.6 points per game in his 6 playoff games. Take away the 34 Minnesota scored when Romo’s offense only scored 3, and his defense held the other 5 teams to 20.4 points per game while we went 2-3 In low scoring games. Over six playoff games with that high powered offense, Romo passed for an average of 201 yards per game while the team rushed for an average of 130 per game. So there was balance.

Tony Romo was a great talent who didn’t step it up in his 6 playoff games despite leading teams that were 13-3, 11-5, 12-4 in 3 of his only 4 appearances. The worst year of his 4 appearances in the playoffs was the 9-7 team in 2006 when we had the game won before he fumbled the snap.

It’s fine for us to love Tony Romo, the hope he gave us as Cowboys fans, and the gaudy stats he put up during his seasons as the Cowboys QB. But let’s stop the false narrative that those teams depended only on his arm, that he had no run game, and that the defense didn’t perform in the playoffs for him. The facts do not support that narrative.
Truth. Romo had a Super Bowl caliber defense on several playoff appearances per most national sportswriters but he typically gets a pass from criticism while Dak never gets the credit he deserves. Thank you for posting this.
 

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Why do people insist on blaming Tony Romo. If his "supporting cast" was so great...why didn;t THEY help win?

Because they must not have been that great after all. If that "supporting cast" exceeded expectations as much as Tony did..he woulda had several super bowls.

What WR went to other teams did better than with Tony? NONE. That should tell you something.
 
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