The trade with Cleveland

[Hostile]

has finally proved that it was not a good deal, at least for us. That question is now answered. I never liked that trade and I never liked Morgan receiving abilities (the way he caught the ball).


I liked his size and his speed, but that was it. I do not think he has the mental toughness, nor will he ever be able to change his habit of the way he catches the ball, I think it is too late to change his way of catching the ball.

Saying all that, I believe that he will be a good asset for the Steelers because of the Deep speed.

Some people took offense to Morgan's statement about Parcells. What he said was true, BP does have an agenda, he wants to win and win now, Morgan did not fit, no because of BP's doing, but because of his own (Meaning Morgan). he played or practiced himself out and off the team.

Yes BP has an agenda, so what if a player says that, it is the truth.

I make that trade even with hindsight.

Antonio Bryant felt he was more important than the team. He wasn't. No one is. There were far more issues than the jersey throwing incident. He refused to come off the field in a couple of games and forced the team to call a timeout. Using needless timeouts can cost you a win. His act was tired, stupid, and he was as much a hindrance as he was a talent. Once you hit the NFL you need to spit the pacifier out of your mouth and do your job. He couldn't do that.

Do I think Quincy Morgan was anywhere near the talent of AB? No, of course not. I doubt anyone is saying he is. However, he served a purpose here. So, in other words we got something for nothing, because that is exactly what Antonio Bryant turned out to be, he's a nothing.

Talent isn't worth spit without discipline and devotion to team. Goodbye Antonio Bryant and good riddance. I can't wait for the day that you screw up so bad that your jilted lovers can finally close that chapter.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I made this theard like http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33319&highlight=antonio+bryant

but you're right. We got Price and Crayton for Bryant

 

[Mike 1967]

My two cents

BP no doubt has a lot of items on his agenda.

One of which is that he needs receivers who catch more balls than they drop.

I would expect this to be a high agenda item within a ball control/clock control oriented offense.

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On the trade with Cleveland....if we had not gotten anything for Bryant it would have been a "good trade". Bryant was a cancer on this team. And it is best to remove a cancer before it spreads and becomes terminal.

I hope the best for both players. But neither player belonged here.

I will take 1 Crayton over 10 each of a Bryant and a Morgan.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

The trade was not a trade per se. Parcells was getting rid of Bryant one way or the other. Even getting a lesser player such as Morgan was better than getting nothing. Why you people don't understand this is beyond reason.

 

[Asklesko]

Quincy Morgan always sucked. They had no right to expect he'd be something greater.

 

[blindzebra]

has finally proved that it was not a good deal, at least for us. That question is now answered. I never liked that trade and I never liked Morgan receiving abilities (the way he caught the ball).


I liked his size and his speed, but that was it. I do not think he has the mental toughness, nor will he ever be able to change his habit of the way he catches the ball, I think it is too late to change his way of catching the ball.

Saying all that, I believe that he will be a good asset for the Steelers because of the Deep speed.

Some people took offense to Morgan's statement about Parcells. What he said was true, BP does have an agenda, he wants to win and win now, Morgan did not fit, no because of BP's doing, but because of his own (Meaning Morgan). he played or practiced himself out and off the team.

Yes BP has an agenda, so what if a player says that, it is the truth.

Bryant and Morgan both have the same problem, it's always someone elses fault.


Bryant dropped in the draft because of his attitude.

He had a pretty good rookie year, but he did not run disciplined routes and dropped a lot of balls.

Parcells came in preaching proper technique and was getting it from Galloway and Glenn, Bryant was still running sloppy routes and dropping passes.

We replace Galloway with another vet with proper technique in Key.

Bryant is getting the chance to prove he should be the guy, by running extra routes in camp. But instead of shutting up and earning it, he throws a hissy over having to work harder than the vets who ARE DOING THINGS CORRECTLY, and throws a jersey in Parcells face.

What makes the Rice's and Jordan's of the world what they are?

The ability to know that no matter how talented they are, they are still going to work harder than eveybody else to get better.

Bryant and Morgan will never get better, because they will never own their failures and work to correct them.

 

[Mike 1967]

Bryant and Morgan both have the same problem, it's always someone elses fault.


Bryant dropped in the draft because of his attitude.

He had a pretty good rookie year, but he did not run disciplined routes and dropped a lot of balls.

Parcells came in preaching proper technique and was getting it from Galloway and Glenn, Bryant was still running sloppy routes and dropping passes.

We replace Galloway with another vet with proper technique in Key.

Bryant is getting the chance to prove he should be the guy, by running extra routes in camp. But instead of shutting up and earning it, he throws a hissy over having to work harder than the vets who ARE DOING THINGS CORRECTLY, and throws a jersey in Parcells face.

What makes the Rice's and Jordan's of the world what they are?

The ability to know that no matter how talented they are, they are still going to work harder than eveybody else to get better.

Bryant and Morgan will never get better, because they will never own their failures and work to correct them.

EXACTLY !!!!!!!

The Rice's and Jordons of the world don't want to be given something because of thier reputation. They want to be given something because they earned it.

This is what separates the men from the boys.

 

[DanTanna]

Bryant was an A-HOLE in college and we took a giant chance on him when everyone else passed. Why did everyone else turn him down - he's a cancer, that's why.

We get Price and Crayton for Bryant - awesome.

 

[wileedog]

You and I both know the kid should have been starting, are at least if he was given a fair shake he would have beaten Key out for the starting spot.

He was given a fair shake.

What you don't understand is if Bryant was all that the year before - if he shut his mouth, worked hard, played football, didn't free lance routes, didn't act like a 2 year old on the sidelines and didn't drop tons of passes then the Cowboys never would have traded for Key in the first place.

Or even if they had, just to get rid of Galloway, there is no way Bill necessarily gives him the starting spot.

Don't believe me?

What's he first thing Bill said when Peerless was signed? That Crayton won't lose playing time because of Peerless. You know why? Because Crayton shuts his mouth, gets his job done, holds on to the ball and does whatever the team needs to win. If Bryant did half that stuff Parcells would have protected his playing time too, or not even have messed with Key in the first place.

Walter Payton, was the first I heard say that, in fact I read it in the first book that he wrote back when I was in high school. Irvin is another one I have heard say that , Rice, is another one, in fact you can probably find that every great player has said that.

You missed the point.

Randal was All-Training Camp receiver every year he was here. Every day reports came out about his circus catches and him blowing past CBs. When the real games started however, Williams never did a damn thing.

Every year dozens and dozens of players have great camps and go on to have mediocre to garbage seasons, because pre-season for the most part doesn't mean anything.

So knock the kid for trying to make things happen, he would not be the first receiver that cried and threw fits on the sidelines, because he did not get the ball.
Wow, I cannot believe you posted this stuff.

Yes, I knock the kid for caring more about his own numbers than winning ball games. Sorry if that notion offends you.

And I really don't care if he's the first reciever or the last reciever to cry on the sidelines, I don't want that crap on my team, and even if I could put up with it you better be gosh darn great and established BEFORE you open your whining pie-hole. AB was a garbage pretender.

My problem? What Problem?

You said yourself you think Bill's a 'butthole'. Thus your opinion on his personnel moves are going to be slanted towards the negative no matter what the situation.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

IF Bryant had run good routes, we may have traded for Key, just because we needed that type of WR...However, most importantly, if Bryant would have payed his ******** dues, and waited he would have been starting once Glenn went down.

 

[Tobal]

Most people thought we'd cut him, so how exactly did we get screwed trading a guy all the "experts" said we'd cut.

 

[Derinyar]

Most people thought we'd cut him, so how exactly did we get screwed trading a guy all the "experts" said we'd cut.

ITs simple. People are reactionary and like assinging blame after the fact.

Bryant is a talented player who is unlikely to ever realize that talent. Morgan is a talented player with some issues that will probably keep him from ever realizing his talent. We got Morgan for a guy we were going to cut, flat out. If Morgan had worked out it would have been great, since he didn't it just doesn't matter.

 

[dargonking999]

has finally proved that it was not a good deal, at least for us. That question is now answered. I never liked that trade and I never liked Morgan receiving abilities (the way he caught the ball).


I liked his size and his speed, but that was it. I do not think he has the mental toughness, nor will he ever be able to change his habit of the way he catches the ball, I think it is too late to change his way of catching the ball.

Saying all that, I believe that he will be a good asset for the Steelers because of the Deep speed.

Some people took offense to Morgan's statement about Parcells. What he said was true, BP does have an agenda, he wants to win and win now, Morgan did not fit, no because of BP's doing, but because of his own (Meaning Morgan). he played or practiced himself out and off the team.

Yes BP has an agenda, so what if a player says that, it is the truth.

Sorry but i think it was better than just cutting him, bottom line was he had lots of potential, but he didnt want to play in Dallas, that was plain and clear, instead of relasing him we got a player in return he didnt work out fine, so what, we got price now, name me one NFL head coach that woudl want Bryant on his team, for a good-great WR, after he just threw a jersey in the face of a HOF coach, just because he's going to be number 3?

 

[Sarge]

If Bryant ever shows that he is more than a tease and a malcontent you'll be right. At this point it is just a trade of garbage for garbage. And don't give me that "having a great preseason stuff" - showing it when it counts.

Antonio Bryant is hardly garbage. Sorry.

Is he a headache? Yes.

The guy has talent, undeniably.

Quincy has NOTHING. Zip.

We don't need the headaches that perhaps Antonio would have continued to bring, but he's a helluva lot more talented than Quincy will ever dream of being.

 

[Paniolo22]

Bryant not only ran wrong routes, he dropped just as many passes as Morgan did, if not more. Yeah, he would make the spectacular catch, but drop the routine ones, then b***h about why he isn't getting the ball. Grade A Jacka$$. Did I once have high hopes for him? Absofrickin'lutely. Am I glad he is gone? Good f****n' riddance!

 

[Seven]

X 1,000,000,000

 

[Mike 1967]

X 1,000,000,000

 

[Kangaroo]

The trade was still good in my eyes. We were going to most likely release Bryant anyway, so we went out and got the best talent to try to fill the void he left. In hind sight, it didn't work out, but I'm not going to whine about it.

Well we could ahve took the 2 5th round picks from the Chiefs which I wanted at the time the trade went down over Morgan :bang2:

 

[Mike 1967]

Well we could ahve took the 2 5th round picks from the Chiefs which I wanted at the time the trade went down over Morgan :bang2:

Dang...I never knew about that offer.

OK...I'm changing teams on this topic.

THAT WAS A LOUSY TRADE !!!!!

 

[deerp02]

Randal was All-Training Camp receiver every year he was here. Every day reports came out about his circus catches and him blowing past CBs. When the real games started however, Williams never did a damn thing.

yeah he did...remember that onside kick return for a TD against the eagles?

anyways...i agree with almost everybody here...even though bryant had undeniable talent, he was a team headache. if he would have just accepted the fact that he had not proved himself on the field, and taken into his role and waited his turn, he would be a-ok in my book.